LACali: Yeah especially when the parent twists them and gets them involved between the two of you.
Yeah, that's always crappy but my own experiences with a woman with kids was that they didn't want to live with her, they wanted their dad and were not allowed to be with him so they did everything possible to get in trouble and I ended up getting hurt by their violent behavior so now I prefer dating women without any children because since I had no say in their raising there really isn't much to do but to bear the brunt of their incorrect rearing and it's not fair at all.
Anyone willing to get involved with a woman with kids is just asking for trouble.
I've learned my lesson and learned it well.