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Try being dark skinned once and you will understand. I still deal with racism. Should I just accept being ridiculed because people are tired of hearing about racism? You know..keep my mouth shut and know my place like a good minority?

A black man was talking to God.

He asked why his hair was so curly and God told him, "It is so while hunting your hair would not get caught in the brush as you pursued you prey for food!".

Next he asked why his skin was dark and was answered, "So you will not suffer heat stroke in the hot deserts as you prusue your prey for food."

Next he asked why his legs and arms were so long...and was told,"This is so you can chase down your prey for food, my son."

Do you have any further questions my son.

He said "Yes! I do,......Then why in hell am I in Cleveland?"

oi conrad isnt a dude and yes he is weel informed to quote on civil war and any other subject you care to mention, and guess what Yep he is funny. Which is môre than can be said of your postings.

so what does god do then ?




welcome to the thread jessejess47 !

A question like this is always going to heat up some emotions but I'm going to try and answer it anyway. Let's take a little historical journey shall we. If you are coming at the question from a religious point of view then the answer would be yes different gods. Let me explain:

If we are talking about Africans who were brought to America, Caribbean, etc... they would have come with their own religions which would not have been the Christian one. So the God(s) as they knew it would not have been the same one that the white's knew. However once they became enslaved they were being stripped of so much of their cultural heritage, names, language, religion etc...this being done DELIBERATELY so as to make them eventually easier to control.

The void left by this was to be filled by Eurocentric ideas,fashion,culture, religion because it was thought at the time that things African were primitive and backward. However even in the midst of all this indoctrination, these Africans found ways to keep their cultural heritage alive, including aspects of their former religion in some cases melding it with Christian beliefs. At that time it was all about survival,adaptation and resistance, as all three were necessary if one was to survive the horrors of slavery. People created slavery for their purpose-whatever that purposewas/is. If you are religious then you know God gave a man a brain to think and while he has created many things that are worthy of praise he has also gone about creating, wars, genocide, slavery and destruction.

In all these cases man has a choice and he often choses to hate his fellow man rather than love him. The problem with this type of slavery is that in many ways it worked too well. The Africans and their descendants were to see themselves as second class citizens, lesser in everyway so that the white slave master could feel superior, Africans were often taught to despise and distrust their own kind, again so that they could be easier to control. BUT with that quest for control has come the whirlwind, of resentment, hurt and pain and some lasting mental disabilities from the institution of slavery. In the end both blacks and whites have been affected by it. The institution of slavey might have ended but its after effects in how many whites and blacks deal with other in terms of prejudice has not gone away.

Is God allowing this to happen or are men continuing to choose to hate? I have heard some talk of compensation for slavery. Personally I want no such compensation. Nothing can compensate me or my ancestors for what they were put through during slavery, anymore than I think monetary compensation could make the hatred meted out to Jews in the hollocause be excused. I do not say poor me, because I CHOOSE to rise above the ideology of being inferior that was being forced on some of my ancestors. I don't have to spend my time hating whites because I KNOW that I am just as intelligent, just as beautiful, just as capable of sucess as they are and I allow NO ONE to tell me differently. This knowledge frees me to love and be loved by anyone, black, white, Asian etc... I know who I AM and WHAT I AM WORTH. I live to be the best I can be and that is what I think my ancestors and ANY GOD would have expected.

thats a very interesting comment to make




so what was the ameican civli war mostly about then ( as far as you're concerned ) ?

I don't think God is black, white or any color.
a spiritual being so no physical body to be a color.

Slavery is a mans wrong.. not a Gods wrong.

However lets be completely honest here, All color of peoples have been slaves in history.. not just blacks.

God has made all people's one blood. We are all the same. Those who can opress another will. Any difference of any kind is reason to opress another....with enough opressing the thruth goes out and lies come forward to dominate even more. it is the basic human nature that is the problem of all people's. Black's opress Asians in America today! We all do it and will do it...unless we remove the basic human natures and replace them with wisdom and love of others. A lot of opression comes from fear of loss of jobs or getting cheaper labor with slaves. if people would stop the lust for money, things, and power...it would be a kinder world.

It ended over 200 years ago! WHy cannot some allow the past to be the past.

Man choose to do his own will and this is allowed by God so that man will find that they are not able to rule themselves....When man is about to destroy all life.....then God will stop it and basically tell us to shut up and listen....you don't know anything. Just like a bunch of teenagers we think we know it all and with a little age ,we fund we have been fools our whole lives and it is time to shut up and listen. By giving us all chance by our actions....God won't have to listen to us say....we did not have a fair chance. Because we did and fowled it up....trying everything over and over.....dumb us we don't even learn from our own history and the stupid stuff we have done repeatly.

We are the makers of our own problems and always have been. We wanted it!

God has nothing to do with peoples unjustly actions, We must move forward and just love one another

Yes he had helped us, he gave us hope,faith and strength to deal with all that was thrown at us.

Ummmmmmmmm No...those will big mouths still have an opinion on that...and that won't change....at least not while there is still racism going on..that's just me..deal with it....

Economic and social differances,States versuus Federal rights,Wheather new states that entered the union would be slave or free states( Kansas and Nebraska mainly),"The Dred Scott Case", Abe Lincoln being elected, And the thing that started the war was South Carolina declared it secession from the union. These were the main ones,there were others of course....

try haveing long hair and beard and get a job say in a bank, there are many ways to be discriminated and you do NOT have to have dark skin. Tattoos are another one ,as are piercings, it is not always about skin color.....

Selling them

Yes you are right there are many forms of discrimination. Sometimes it isn't about skin colour and sometimes it is.

The North was just more creative than the South. In the South, it was blacks that were called what they were, slaves. In the North, it was all races and they were called indentured servants.
Slavery in the South was ended with the Civil War and the Emancipation Proclomation. In the North, indentured servatude did not end until well into the 20th century.
Then there are the various side issues of whether or not share croppers of all races in the south were free men or slaves as well as coal miners and the company store, the Chinese and the railroads, etc.
Now we have sweat shops across the country hiring illegal immigrants at sub minimum wage, packing plants and agricultural entities using the same practices. It never really ended, just got recreated and renamed by each generation.