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druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Ouchh: but is he not cheating on her just by talking with her and not telling his girlfriend?


Who says he didn't? The world is not black and white, young man...there are many shades of grey. Talking to someone is not cheating...memories are memories. So long as his lips don't touch those lips, I don't see that he's doing anything really wrong. Does he lie by omission by not telling her? Possibly. Would I? No...but I don't hold the world to my standards. Just my partner's standards need to match mine.


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Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
pretzelman: What can possibly be offensive about that!! Telling someone they have wonderful lips is a compliment! I see no reference to sex in that song!!

Have you seen a therapist? Really!! You are reading something into that song that isn't there!!
so your saying it would be ok for your girlfriend to talk with her X and wish that you was him sometimes? I dont see that as very cool.



Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
druidess6308: Who says he didn't? The world is not black and white, young man...there are many shades of grey. Talking to someone is not cheating...memories are memories. So long as his lips don't touch those lips, I don't see that he's doing anything really wrong. Does he lie by omission by not telling her? Possibly. Would I? No...but I don't hold the world to my standards. Just my partner's standards need to match mine.
And thats my point where are the worlds standards anymore? its like there are none. If I was to talk with my x and wish she was my new girlfriend sometimes.. then I need to be alone not with somone else.



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Ouchh: so your saying it would be ok for your girlfriend to talk with her X and wish that you was him sometimes? I dont see that as very cool.



I've stated my view!! Have a good night!!handshake



Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
pretzelman: I've stated my view!! Have a good night!!
later man and ty for your view's many thankshandshake
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
Hey Ouchh...

There was a sexual revolution that started in the 60's. Some people felt constrained by the norms that society imposed on them at the time. These people wanted out and did not want to feel guilt or shame by expressing themselves. So this is where it started. The liberation of our sexuality and of the notion of freely expressing our desires in an open environment. It was the cultural revolution that paved the way for a new society that we see today.

Now, of course the more conservative people still maintain their values and choose not to talk about sex openly. That's fine. The sexually liberal people do not have a problem with that. Most of them understand the socially and sexually conservative's stance on this.

The more traditional and conservative people such as yourself should understand that nobody is the same and don't share the same values when it comes to sex and how the expression of it.

As you can see, Hollywood has glamorized this in some ways. Ever seen Sex and the city? Or Six Feet Under? The shows do capture an essence of our society of sexual liberation for men, women, and homosexuals as well as being single and having multiple partners. Our society no longer exists in 1955. The world has changed my friend.

It's diversity. It should be respected and understood. Everybody has a free will and it's a free world. Nobody should impose their beliefs and sense of values on one another.

Humans are sexual beings. Humans have biological drifts fulled by desires. Some make it known to everybody, others don't. That's all.

What is it you don't understand or is it you don't want to understand?







Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
Well thanks for your views also Druidess it was good that somone talked with me about this. But I dont feel any better about it, was hoping for more input from people but I guess this should have been a Thread about sex to get more peoples views. My head hurts and I have work in a few hours so im off. Goodnite all.wave
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
Ouchh: Well thanks for your views also Druidess it was good that somone talked with me about this. But I dont feel any better about it, was hoping for more input from people but I guess this should have been a Thread about sex to get more peoples views. My head hurts and I have work in a few hours so im off. Goodnite all.


Hey, get back in here...I wanna talk!



Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
StressFree: Hey Ouchh...

There was a sexual revolution that started in the 60's. Some people felt constrained by the norms that society imposed on them at the time. These people wanted out and did not want to feel guilt or shame by expressing themselves. So this is where it started. The liberation of our sexuality and of the notion of freely expressing our desires in an open environment. It was the cultural revolution that paved the way for a new society that we see today.

Now, of course the more conservative people still maintain their values and choose not to talk about sex openly. That's fine. The sexually liberal people do not have a problem with that. Most of them understand the socially and sexually conservative's stance on this.

The more traditional and conservative people such as yourself should understand that nobody is the same and don't share the same values when it comes to sex and how the expression of it.

As you can see, Hollywood has glamorized this in some ways. Ever seen Sex and the city? Or Six Feet Under? The shows do capture an essence of our society of sexual liberation for men, women, and homosexuals as well as being single and having multiple partners. Our society no longer exists in 1955. The world has changed my friend.

It's diversity. It should be respected and understood. Everybody has a free will and it's a free world. Nobody should impose their beliefs and sense of values on one another.

Humans are sexual beings. Humans have biological drifts fulled by desires. Some make it known to everybody, others don't. That's all.

What is it you don't understand or is it you don't want to understand?
hey man handshake my head is killing me Ill respawn to you after work. later man.
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
Ouchh: hey man my head is killing me Ill respawn to you after work. later man.


Okay, rest up my friend. This is a deep subject with a deep rabbit hole. It requires a series of discussions.




Ouchh harrison, Arkansas USA
StressFree: Hey Ouchh...

There was a sexual revolution that started in the 60's. Some people felt constrained by the norms that society imposed on them at the time. These people wanted out and did not want to feel guilt or shame by expressing themselves. So this is where it started. The liberation of our sexuality and of the notion of freely expressing our desires in an open environment. It was the cultural revolution that paved the way for a new society that we see today.

Now, of course the more conservative people still maintain their values and choose not to talk about sex openly. That's fine. The sexually liberal people do not have a problem with that. Most of them understand the socially and sexually conservative's stance on this.

The more traditional and conservative people such as yourself should understand that nobody is the same and don't share the same values when it comes to sex and how the expression of it.

As you can see, Hollywood has glamorized this in some ways. Ever seen Sex and the city? Or Six Feet Under? The shows do capture an essence of our society of sexual liberation for men, women, and homosexuals as well as being single and having multiple partners. Our society no longer exists in 1955. The world has changed my friend.

It's diversity. It should be respected and understood. Everybody has a free will and it's a free world. Nobody should impose their beliefs and sense of values on one another.

Humans are sexual beings. Humans have biological drifts fulled by desires. Some make it known to everybody, others don't. That's all.

What is it you don't understand or is it you don't want to understand?
dont get me wrong I'm glad everyone is diffrent, the world would suck if we were all the same. But it just seems like the world thrives on two things now sex and money. Its just that it seems to be geting out of hand when a person walks into a club and you can watch people having sex of one kind or the other. I dont understand how thay can be so open about it. Im trying to respect it even tho to me it seems wrong. Thats why I made this post so I could try and understand it. Is it a thing of pride now to have sex with multiple partners, in plublic,on a web cam? And is this in anyway a part of why the devorce % is so high? or was the devorce's the same in 1955? I know of a few ladys who there kids see mom with a diffrent man every few weeks, so thay grow up thinking this is the normal. Now when thay become adults how will thay see life? will marrage become a thing of the past? where just being happy with the moment is enough? ahh im really bad at writing all the stuff in my head and nothing ever comes out the way I really want it to for some reason. But maybe you see what im asking or saying. You really seem to have a good intelligence to you so maybe you can help. And yes I've seen sex and the city. And thay do seem to glamorize open sex not love. Thay speak of love and marrage like thay want it but then when thay find a good person for this thay have to sleep with somone else to mess it all up so thay can sit and talk about what thay think thay want but cant have cause ther loose. Well 2 of them anyways the older lady just wants sex nothing more.



singlesteve brisbane, Queensland Australia
i just think the world is getting nuttier my ex was good for thatapplause peace
morgan5 somewhere sunny , Canarias Spain
Ouchh: but all the sex talk makes me feel like allmost everyone here is looking for there next bang. What happend to love,trust,compassion? I know people here talk about looking for there one and only but I see way more sex talk then love talk! and Hi Druidess
The forums are abit like a meeting place for friends alot of the posts on the sex threads are meant in humour and not to be taken too seriously wave



singlesteve brisbane, Queensland Australia
hi there morgan i just meet youbanana
gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
Just a shot....haven't read all posts so hope it is within what has been discussed...

If anyone is here for sexual thrills then they're on the wrong service......try some porno pages if you want that....what goes on here is simply adult bantering....no more no less....

in normal language it is known as having some fun.

cool
morgan5 somewhere sunny , Canarias Spain
gozoman2: Just a shot....haven't read all posts so hope it is within what has been discussed...

If anyone is here for sexual thrills then they're on the wrong service......try some porno pages if you want that....what goes on here is simply adult bantering....no more no less....

in normal language it is known as having some fun.
seem to be on the same page this morning. cheers
morgan5 somewhere sunny , Canarias Spain
singlesteve: hi there morgan i just meet you
Morning wave
StressFree small city, Kalmar Sweden
Ouchh: dont get me wrong I'm glad everyone is diffrent, the world would suck if we were all the same. But it just seems like the world thrives on two things now sex and money. Its just that it seems to be geting out of hand when a person walks into a club and you can watch people having sex of one kind or the other. I dont understand how thay can be so open about it. Im trying to respect it even tho to me it seems wrong. Thats why I made this post so I could try and understand it. Is it a thing of pride now to have sex with multiple partners, in plublic,on a web cam? And is this in anyway a part of why the devorce % is so high? or was the devorce's the same in 1955? I know of a few ladys who there kids see mom with a diffrent man every few weeks, so thay grow up thinking this is the normal. Now when thay become adults how will thay see life? will marrage become a thing of the past? where just being happy with the moment is enough? ahh im really bad at writing all the stuff in my head and nothing ever comes out the way I really want it to for some reason. But maybe you see what im asking or saying. You really seem to have a good intelligence to you so maybe you can help. And yes I've seen sex and the city. And thay do seem to glamorize open sex not love. Thay speak of love and marrage like thay want it but then when thay find a good person for this thay have to sleep with somone else to mess it all up so thay can sit and talk about what thay think thay want but cant have cause ther loose. Well 2 of them anyways the older lady just wants sex nothing more.


Hey Ouchh...I totally understand where you are coming from and I respect your views.

The reasons for divorce are many. We just can't pin point it on one thing. The shift of roles of a man and a woman has not been an easy transition for either partners. The fast paced mentality society which has been developed since the 90's has crept into our sub conscious and conscious selves...meaning that if you don't get what we want on demand and in a perfect manner, then we look elsewhere for a 'new product' or a new partner if you will.
Expectations has been a huge problem. Also we have to consider how many people are not comfortable with themselves, so it makes it hard for them to be comfortable with others. And divorce today is not taboo like it was back then. So that option is there if somebody wants to deal with their inner struggles on their own and not with the help of some controlling freak. Ah, so much more to say about this. I took a love and marriage course as part of my Psychology requirements in college. Plus I have read all kinds of literature and have observed some things in Sweden and America that I think has gave me a good understanding for why people divorce, and by not blaming either sex, but more society.

I'm just saying that the world is not the same as 1955, in good ways and bad ways, but hopefully it's part of a larger plan for a more harmonious future.

If you want the rainbow, you have to endure the storm.



singlesteve brisbane, Queensland Australia
good evening from australiayawn
gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
morgan5: seem to be on the same page this morning.


Yeps....

and feeling extremely lazy too......

yawn

so put on track suit and cuddled on sofa with JJ....put on the fire too so it's nice and warm now.....

got myself a new computer and wifi so I can lounge comfortably where I please now in the pad...

wine




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