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sweetXstacy Virginia Beach, Virginia USA
Lagoona22: SweetX, you're right on the money...but this is basic logic, isn't it?...maybe all of us should take "Online Dating 101" before being allowed on here....

...but here's the thing....if guys figure out how to behave or pitch themselves better online, then it's going to become even harder for women to sort out the wheat from the chaff....this way, it's way simpler....guys who make any or all of the mistakes you have noted, are out from the start. Makes your job simpler, right??...so don't spread the news...keep us stupid, so spotting the bright ones is easier for you...


You actually make a great point.....I guess I was looking at it like this....

There are a lot of great men out there that get over-looked simply because they don't know how or understand to make themselves be seen through the masses.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
mylifewithu: Wow you nailed it for me also, I get lots of mail often overwhelming especially at other sites and I do the same. They need to send some thing other than just generic messages so they can stand out. The last one I went to meet here in town kept going on and one and on about the last female. omg I didn't want involved to deal with that. Some people don't know where to dump the freaking past.
I ignore so much not that I want to but so much sounds like Geeeez didnt you at least read my profile, what the heck do we have in common that you say we do. I agree with everything else too you put here.

ok babe ...writing to you soon....



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
You also make a great point...a lot of good guys are not going to win here, because they don't have online dating etiquette...which just goes to show how complicated this is...Judging online presentation will get you the guys who have that skill, but that only tells you part of the story about who they are. You will only really know who you are dealing with when you meet them. That's why I like to avoid exchanging a gazillion emails or chats and cut straight to the chase...

...wanna date??

laugh doh

sweetXstacy: You actually make a great point.....I guess I was looking at it like this....

There are a lot of great men out there that get over-looked simply because they don't know how or understand to make themselves be seen through the masses.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
sweetXstacy: I posted this today another site. I couldn't have imagined the controversy it was going to cause. Most men appreciated the advice but a few wanted to burn me at the stake. Any insight??

I am bored and figured I would kill some time. I have posted on this and other sites a few times and am amazed at the responses I receive sometimes. I am writing this to help guys that are truly looking for somebody to spend sincere time with......if you are just looking for sex, I suggest a hooker. They won't call you in the morning wondering if you are still interested.....and with food prices so high, it might even be cheaper.

1. Woman get 10 times more responses than you when she places an ad and almost none of them are fake bots. If she has a picture with her ad, she might get as many as 500 or 600 responses. Don't be offended if she doesn't write you back right away or even at all. She might just be over-whelmed! If you truly feel like she should meet you, send her a short casual note a few days later asking how she's doing. Still no response? Back off...it is what it is.

2. Contrary to a man's belief, we do know what we want. If we say please be between 25 and 35.....don't write and say "I'm 50 but....." and then wonder why you are passed over. Actually read what we have to say and be honest with yourself....if you know the shirt doesn't fit.....why try it on?

3. Say something to us!!!! Don't say "I don't want to waste my time so I am keeping this short." What a turn off!!! If you are actually interested, you would be willing to waste 10 minutes of your day letting that be known........and don't let a picture do all the talking for you. Good-looking guys are a dime a dozen. What makes you different than them?

4. A lot of us have friends on here and we TALK to each other. Don't send a pre-written form letter to all of us saying how great we are. You will be busted and look lame. It only takes a few minutes to show that you are genuinely interested.

5. Use your brain....if it looks like a bot and sounds like a bot, it probably is. (Hint...if it says Hampton Roads for a location, chances are it is a bot.) If the profile is full of detail and everyday pictures (especially of people you see posting on a regular basis), it is probably real. Don't ask. Have some faith.

6. The email is your first chance to make a good impression. MOST of you wouldn't show up to a first date wearing dirty jeans and a ripped shirt...sending an email full of typos sends the same message. We don't all have English degrees, but spell-check is now a built-in function from most email providers. Consider it to be your new best friend.

7. Set your email up in 3 paragraphs. The first should have your name, age, location you live in, and maybe what you do for a living. The second should be a few likes and dislikes and some hobbies. If at all possible, relate back to her post and ask a few questions she can respond back with. "I see you like collecting cat figurines. That happens to be my all time favorite thing to do as well. How many do you have? Have you gone to the shop downtown that specializes in them?" (Special side note: If you collect cat figurines....don't email me.) The last paragraph should be a few reasons why you think she should write back. Compliments are great if they are said the right way. ("You have a sweet smile" goes over better than "I see those lips and imagine them wrapped around my......")

8. DON'T talk about your ex in the first email. Don't refer to her at all. You can simply say "I have been single for 2 years." By talking about her........continued...

are you writing a book on the subject or just trying to avoid the boring mails....?
In fact the guys that write shitty mails could not go so elaborated and read all the tips here...they have a different idea of how the clicks work. By the way... have I read all your posts thoroughly?
I have a excuse: acute ADHD
woody636 Elgin, Illinois USA
Lagoona22: You also make a great point...a lot of good guys are not going to win here, because they don't have online dating etiquette...which just goes to show how complicated this is...Judging online presentation will get you the guys who have that skill, but that only tells you part of the story about who they are. You will only really know who you are dealing with when you meet them. That's why I like to avoid exchanging a gazillion emails or chats and cut straight to the chase...

...wanna date??


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Hey Lago! Why don't you get right to the POINT!! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing wave

Personally, don't really agree with much of anything that's been posted here so far. Go with honesty and being as candid as possible. No complaints on my end. I think a whole lot of us overthink the whole thing and make it more complicated then it has to be. What's wrong with just meeting for an enjoyable evening? Doesn't have to be the "love connection." Just a pleasant night out. Then, what happens, happens, know what I mean?



jenae indianapolis, Indiana USA
There are really nice guy's out there. Women just have to be careful in their choices. Most of the time you can tell by the way guy's come across, if their player's or sincere. A lot of women pick the bad boy's for a good time, then wonder why they don't call!



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
Hey Woody!!...you also make a good point...unless you're actually going to make the effort to get away from your computer, and meet the other person, you are still no closer to your goal..if your goal is finding a partner in RL.
cheers

woody636: Hey Lago! Why don't you get right to the POINT!!

... know what I mean?



jenae indianapolis, Indiana USA
I think you are right. The guy's that have all the sweet talkin', b.s., most of the time, are the one's to stay away from. If they're sweet talkin' you, they're more than likely sweet talkin' someone else.



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
I resemble that remark!!!....


doh

jenae: I think you are right. The guy's that have all the sweet talkin', b.s., most of the time, are the one's to stay away from. If they're sweet talkin' you, they're more than likely sweet talkin' someone else.



jenae indianapolis, Indiana USA
People on these site's seem to be just plain fickled!
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
jenae: I think you are right. The guy's that have all the sweet talkin', b.s., most of the time, are the one's to stay away from. If they're sweet talkin' you, they're more than likely sweet talkin' someone else.



ooopss!! I think I need to go to the washroom!!



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
Fine, but let's get to know each other better before we fickle, ok Jenae?
laugh

jenae: People on these site's seem to be just plain fickled!
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Thanks for knowing I am out there ...:grin
No big deal I can be a bad boy too: A bad boy for a good time..hehe
I am just like a bottle of perfume at Shoppers: anybody can try me on... wink
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Antjo39: Thanks for knowing I am out there ...:grin
No big deal I can be a bad boy too: A bad boy for a good time..hehe
I am just like a bottle of perfume at Shoppers: anybody can try me on...

Shit, I needed to quote her
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
jenae: There are really nice guy's out there. Women just have to be careful in their choices. Most of the time you can tell by the way guy's come across, if their player's or sincere. A lot of women pick the bad boy's for a good time, then wonder why they don't call!

Here it goes...
woody636 Elgin, Illinois USA
Lagoona22: Hey Woody!!...you also make a good point...unless you're actually going to make the effort to get away from your computer, and meet the other person, you are still no closer to your goal..if your goal is finding a partner in RL.


Right on, bud! cheers The whole idea here, at least for me, was to actually MEET people. I enjoy going out for dinner and its not a lot of fun doing it alone. Been there, done that, and found I enjoy company and conversation. Same with all the other little things; a movie, bowling, ect., ect.. So, like you, actually meeting face to face is the goal; not endless emails. Worse that happens; you make a new friend and enjoy each others company for an evening. Works for me!!



jenae indianapolis, Indiana USA
Aw!!.. Being a little sneaky there, Lagoona22!.. lol



jenae indianapolis, Indiana USA
Woody636, I think you got the right idea! But, what do I know?



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
Woody, I wish more people would think like you do...perhaps too many people go into a first-time date thinking "is this my soulmate for the rest of my life?"...instead of thinking about having a fun hour or two making a new acquaintance...


woody636: Right on, bud! The whole idea here, at least for me, was to actually MEET people. I enjoy going out for dinner and its not a lot of fun doing it alone. Been there, done that, and found I enjoy company and conversation. Same with all the other little things; a movie, bowling, ect., ect.. So, like you, actually meeting face to face is the goal; not endless emails. Worse that happens; you make a new friend and enjoy each others company for an evening. Works for me!!



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
Jenae, you should click on the radio button "Quote post above"...if you want to quote who you are rplying to..


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jenae: Aw!!.. Being a little sneaky there, Lagoona22!.. lol




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