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Darkhorseman Gold Coast, Queensland Australia
You don't REALLY think men get a choice in this ... Do you?

We cop abuse for being jealous and obssesive if we meantion that getting home late from work after work because Studly Stuart took you for a coffee made us worry.

Meanwhile, should Miss Bounce from next door grin at us and say "Hi." as we pass in the supermarket, we men are "animals only after one thing."

Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
jbibiza: I really don´t understand the idea that the friendship might become more... if you´ve been friends with a member of the opposite sex for years... why would it all of a sudden become more than that?


It can and does happen. I've been an active party to that myself. But it really isn't about sexual jealousy per se. A relationship has much more to it than sex; there can also be emotional jealousy - apropos to emotional affairs, for instance (which can often be more substantive and intimate that mere sexual dalliances). hug wave



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
jbibiza: In that case I could just as easily become a lesbian and hook up with one of my female friends...

To be honest, if my SO were that easily led into something else with another person, then he is better off out of my life and in hers... I don´t want a partner that isn´t happy in our relationship, and to me... there would have to be something missing between us if he felt a need to have sexual relations with another woman.



But... to each their own...


Anyway my husband and i both agree on this..

We dont need the opposite sex for anything..

We can both at least try to like what the other is doing..

He wouldnt like me to go out with the opposite sex..and
i wouldnt either..

I only need to pls him and no one else..

So we both agree on this one



dazzling_dave Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Looking at this from a different viewpoint, if I had a problem with my SO having this type of relationship and she decided that it was MY problem and that she would continue having it, that would tell me that this friendshio was more important to her than I was. I don't think there would be much of a future for us in that case.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Ambrose2007: It can and does happen. I've been an active party to that myself. But it really isn't about sexual jealousy per se. A relationship has much more to it than sex; there can also be emotional jealousy - apropos to emotional affairs, for instance (which can often be more substantive and intimate that mere sexual dalliances).
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druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
jbibiza: In that case I could just as easily become a lesbian and hook up with one of my female friends...

To be honest, if my SO were that easily led into something else with another person, then he is better off out of my life and in hers... I don´t want a partner that isn´t happy in our relationship, and to me... there would have to be something missing between us if he felt a need to have sexual relations with another woman.

But... to each their own...


A good point, JB. Very good point. These are the reasons I was so ready to say I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Unfortunately, I then had to take a reality check of who I am. laugh

However, again, if they've been friends long before I came into the picture, there shouldn't be a problem. But, I am human. I'm very open about everything, and that includes my faults. I admit to a bit of a jealous and possessive nature as well. So...though I agree it certainly shouldn't be a problem, and most likely wouldn't be one...I'm honest enough to say that it also might be one. All depending on the friendship and the shared activity.

I wish that I could, in all honesty, say it wouldn't ever be one. But I can't. wine



buzzy biddeford, Maine USA
Kissmedeeply, What if you really enjoyed chess. Your partner did not. You join a chess clup and become friends with a male member. You both hit it off, but respect the boundries your relationship with your SO carries. There is no sexual interest in each other. Just a shared common activity. You, your So and that person hit it off. There is a tournament in a different city, and you both are invited to attend. However, your SO says no. You can't go. Your chess buddy and you will be alone together in that city. How would you feel about your SO not trusting you? Do you think all people are weak, and can't remain faithful to their partner? So many people lose out on friendships because of this whole trust issue.
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
dazzling_dave: Looking at this from a different viewpoint, if I had a problem with my SO having this type of relationship and she decided that it was MY problem and that she would continue having it, that would tell me that this friendshio was more important to her than I was. I don't think there would be much of a future for us in that case.


Exactly. Your SO is ought to be your #1 priority. I'm highly skeptical of the knee-jerk response: "I have my close opposite-sex friends that I spend a lot of time with and you'd better adapt to it if you want to be with me." I think that approach would likely net you a lot of close opposite-sex friends and nothing else.dunno wave



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
druidess6308: Ouch. I just had to take a reality check on this one. I was all ready to say, no problem. And realized I might have a problem with this.

I have close male friends, and I have no problem with my partner having close female friends. Talk on the phone? No problem. Go somewhere together without me? I might have a problem with that. It would depend, perhaps, on the activity and frequency of it. For example, I hate horror movies. If my guy likes them and has a female friend that does as well, and they occasionally go to see them together...I could be OK with that. If it became a regular outing, I might have a problem with it.

I'm honest enough to admit to a tad bit of jealousy and possessiveness of my partner. I would expect, and accept, him feeling the same. I might even be hurt if he didn't.
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Ithink this is exactly how I feel about it, people that say, that they it would never bother them, either have not thought out the question, are lying or are so stuck on themselves that they beleive they are above the rest.
when with a partner there are levels of trust that take place.

1.) yes, I trust that they are onldating me... trust
2.) I trust them going out with their girlfriends and not cheating on me....trust
3.) and then there is I trst them to hang around and go do things, with the opposite sex, and ex's ...trust....

I don't care what people say, very very very few people of either sex have that sort of level three trust, sorry, we would like too, but when all you see around you is people cheating on one another and divorce rates through the roof, and hell just knowing how most of your friends of the same sex are.... I knw everyone is an individual, and should be treated in such manner, but that is why I say it all comes down to how muchyou really trust the person you are with...JMO cheers
jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Ambrose2007: You surprised me here, Dru. I fully expected you to say "Of course, no problem." I appreciated the honesty of your reply, and to me, that sounds about right.

There are many people here who reflexively condemn even a hint of jealousy/possessiveness. In my view, if there was none of that in your relationship, something's very likely missing. People who wish to have a partner who has no jealousy/possessiveness should, in my opinion, be careful what they wish for.


There is nothing wrong with a bit of possessiveness...but I find jealousy to be a lack of trust, and that has no place in a relationship for me. In fact it is one of the few things that will really piss me off, by being jealous... to me they are doubting me and my commitment to them. very mad
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
gozoman2: Hey Dru, hope you're well.....

u know to be fair u actually got me thinking...I'd agree on the issue that if it is something of a regularity it could point to the relationship I am in sort of having a problem.....

Going out to meet a friend ever so often is something, but spending every weekend out with friends could be another you are right....

a relationship for me would mean the person likes spending time with me rather then somebody else.

Her needing her own space is understandable. Me ending up waiting for her regularly is another story.


Yes...that's what caused my reality check. I suddenly had that thought about how I'd feel if I was left behind regularly.

I have a need for my own space and to pursue my own activities occasionally, and if they are things he doesn't share interest in, then I wouldn't expect him to make himself miserable accompanying me. I wouldn't do that to myself or him in return either, and I respect his need for space as well. But...how often? That became the question.
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
jbibiza: There is nothing wrong with a bit of possessiveness...but I find jealousy to be a lack of trust, and that has no place in a relationship for me. In fact it is one of the few things that will really piss me off, by being jealous... to me they are doubting me and my commitment to them.


Well, depends on one's concept of jealousy. I don't think it requires a lack of trust. One might simply not wish to surrender time to another person, for instance. hug wave



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
buzzy: Kissmedeeply, What if you really enjoyed chess. Your partner did not. You join a chess clup and become friends with a male member. You both hit it off, but respect the boundries your relationship with your SO carries. There is no sexual interest in each other. Just a shared common activity. You, your So and that person hit it off. There is a tournament in a different city, and you both are invited to attend. However, your SO says no. You can't go. Your chess buddy and you will be alone together in that city. How would you feel about your SO not trusting you? Do you think all people are weak, and can't remain faithful to their partner? So many people lose out on friendships because of this whole trust issue.


Nope i have to say no to this..if i enjoyed it he would still
come and be there with me or join..

My husband always comes first..Not my So called friends..

If he feel uncomfortable then it would never happen..

I would not go and certainly would not go to another city without him..

He feels the same way i do about the opposite sex...he/me either goes or we both dont..

I have never been unfaithful and wouldnt start

As you said on the last part people lose out on friendships..

Well that is ok with me..I have a husband..He is my friend..lover..partner..HUSBAND
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Ambrose2007: You surprised me here, Dru. I fully expected you to say "Of course, no problem." I appreciated the honesty of your reply, and to me, that sounds about right.

There are many people here who reflexively condemn even a hint of jealousy/possessiveness. In my view, if there was none of that in your relationship, something's very likely missing. People who wish to have a partner who has no jealousy/possessiveness should, in my opinion, be careful what they wish for.


And Ambrose, my buddy...I surprised myself as well. I had started to write that I would have no problem with it. And my inner truth monitor sounded an alarm. I had to take a break, take stock, and start over. Why do you think it started with "ouch"?! laugh



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Ambrose2007: Well, depends on one's concept of jealousy. I don't think it requires a lack of trust. One might simply not wish to surrender time to another person, for instance.


Well for me i dont care what people say about jealously

its there..i have it..my husband first said on this topic before

i met him he would never date anyone who is jealouslaugh

He went a little further then that he married meroll eyes
jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Ambrose2007: Well, depends on one's concept of jealousy. I don't think it requires a lack of trust. One might simply not wish to surrender time to another person, for instance.


But then wouldn´t that apply to any friendship and not just one of the opposite sex? My point is that male and female friends should not be treated any differently and that to do so implies a lack of trust from your partner.



laura225 Somewhere, New York USA
jbibiza: There is nothing wrong with a bit of possessiveness...but I find jealousy to be a lack of trust, and that has no place in a relationship for me. In fact it is one of the few things that will really piss me off, by being jealous... to me they are doubting me and my commitment to them.


To me, it's all about personal definition of possessiveness/jealousy and the degree of it- very thin line in between appalling and repulsive.

RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
No matter how perfect the trust and trustworthness of the other, minds are tilted one way or another by outside influence. The TV may give a perfect simular situation of a spouses actions but for bad intentions. The spouse is innocent, but now doubt is placed because of place for it and the TV. Then all times not perfect in no doubt become a ground for doubt. Then trust breaks and trustworthness doubted and grounds for doubts causes fight and the marriage is in danger. Never give place to any doubt no matter how perfect the trust......it will be tested someday because the miind is subject to outside influence and can be changed.


The most perfect borrower is one who never borrowed. Because even with a debt paid......sometimes the wondering about the debt payment will be wondered. If they don't remember the payment and proof is not had. See you in court my lost friend.

The same is true in this subject.



laura225 Somewhere, New York USA
laura225: To me, it's all about personal definition of possessiveness/jealousy and the degree of it- very thin line in between appealing and repulsive.
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jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
An example...

If we were at a party...

It would be cool if he came up behind me and wrapped his arms around me and gave me a kiss... just to let anyone who had any doubts know that I was his, I think that´s sweet.

It would not be acceptable for him to become obnoxious or rude to a man for speaking with me, or to get angry with me because he saw me having an in depth conversation with someone.




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