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I don't think. I know. The Universe writes in Uni-verse.

We ARE connectedness, as your thread states.

Namaste, Sweet one.

i would like to say that you are misguided idealists. The world is full of underdeveloped homosapians and until the rest of our race catches up, blah blah

we are in danger

What's your view on condoms, Sally?

Peace be with you. I offer my blessings.
Namaste'

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Are we misguided, or are the perceptions of your world-view?

I will admit to idealism. I just don't think its misguided.

Yes, we are in danger. We are in danger from ourselves. You say its the fault of under-developed homo sapiens? I notice you state: The rest of our race. Do you count yourself as one of these underdeveloped entities, or do you exhibit a sense of condescension toward them, those who have yet to catch up? Very charitable of you. I'm sure that's an effective way of opening a dialogue.

I, personally, take exception to the tone of condescension in your post. But, it is a free forum, and you are entitled to your view.

Namaste.

my point entirely

I understand what you are saying and advocating and living your life to fulfil. I truly do. I also think that the emotional psyche has a lot of catching up to do with the intellectual psyche. Just my opinion.

Nam myoho renge kyo...been a long time since I heard that.

Once you have heard it, once you have said it, there is no going back.

"Classically, there are those who believe that peace only comes through security, while others believe that security only comes through peace. I'm firmly in the latter camp, but accept that fear pushes many - perhaps most - people into the former. But we need to find a solution together, through dialogue. I may be called naive, but to my mind the accusation of naivety can equally be leveled at those who declare - in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary - that hard power alone can defeat terrorism; or indeed offer a fundamental solution to any problem. Hard power is very good at destroying things - including evil regimes. But it is virtually useless when it comes to building anything.

At the same time I feel strongly that those who believe in the power of non-violence must unite. For too long, the peace movement - such as it is - has come together in times of crisis, only to drift away again when the crisis has past. Until the next one. We need a sustained, positive movement if we are to shape a peaceful, non-violent future. And that needs many individuals to decide to be involved, to be active. If we are not, then other forces will shape our future. Reworking the famous dictum of Edmund Burke, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of violence is for the non-violent to do nothing." - Edward Canfor-Dumas - War, Peace and the Changing Nature of the State

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Yes, Thank you

very well put, but at the same time very insular. coming from a very multicultural background i can apreciate many different views. our main problem as a species is or are the atrocities caused by underdeveloped or tainted human beings that have risen to power by the apathy of the general public.

basically i do not think there is an answer, we as a species are a cancer or infection to this planet which will eventually destroy the very substance of our being.


we are ill fated, and there is not a damn thing we can do about it..


and please stop cutting off peoples heads in the name of god.

god means good!!! just one less o.......

you do this to your fellow men, then you will have no choice but to be be damned

Yup, you're right.

Instilling in ourselves the ability to react to violence with non-violence....Very difficult, but as a teacher, it is the mantra in the classroom. 'Use your words, not your fists'. Maybe therein lies the answer; to teach the next generation. Have a good night.

I've heard this before. But if it's accurate What's the last resort of the competent?

Communisiomn was a great idea but did not gel with human nature. the majority of people are looking after number one, and unfortunately this planet is not big enough to Accommodate.

does anybody have an answer?

The first resort is and always will be dialogue. When dialogue ends, peaceful discourse becomes extremely difficult for even the most competent leader. So an effort to maintain dialogue is and should always be the primary goal.

But in a compenent act of war, violence is always the very last resort. The art of war dictates deception, misdirection and obfuscation. Be where they aint! That is why terrorism is so effective. Small groups can do much harm by using these methods.

That's why it is so important to demonstrate grass-roots dialogue among the citizen's of different cultures. Peaceful and respectful dialogue among Joe the Plumber and Jamal the Plumber. People aren't really all that different world-wide. Its embracing our similarities while accepting our differences that is going to bring people together into a world consciousness, and that will take some doing. I'm not saying it wont be difficult, I'm just saying that its worth it.

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo,

TET

The original quote you posted was "Violence is the last resort of the incompetent." Now you say "But in a compenent act of war, violence is always the very last resort." There does not seem to be any difference between the competent and incompetent in this case. That's why I questioned the original quote.

Regarding the rest of your post. I appreciate you making it and agree with it except for the part about how difficult it will be to reach a point where people will be brought together into a world consciousness. I really believe, given the dynamics of human nature and basic human psychology, we will never achieve this goal. It's a worthy cause to strive for but given that we can never agree on anything , we'll never get along without violent discourse. I shudder to think of the fights that would break out if CS were a face to face forum.

Anyway, it's a nice thought.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."-Plato

I do agree that war will always plague the living, until we redefine what war means. "Trading Bodies for Real Estate" isn't workable anymore. There's only so much desert to go around. I dunno, a game of chess between national grandmasters?

Point is, we make it violent. It doesn't have to be. We're all in this together, and there's only so much we can blame on God, Bush, or Bin Laden, before we have to start taking responsibility for our own actions, and start taking action. Hopefully non-violent action. I had a thread here awhile ago about Gandhi's pursuit: Satyagraha, to stand for truth. We need to take a stand, that's all I'm saying.

OK, That I can agree with. And even when I don't agree, it's all interesting. I was just confused over the earlier quote.

BTW, I think Plato really nailed it.

Yes, and in Spirit we live eternally.