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thank god someone said something about this no means NO N-O

sometimes is necessary to use violence...first say politely "thanks but i pass" then if he tries again punch him.

Of course "No" without meaning No also gives women a great deal of entertainment. Most mature women are aware of the "Catch 22" of their partner's early sexual education.

Damn,another one to blame on Capitalism.

Let talk about this....

It is a matter of culture too.

I had read this somewhere a long time ago...can't for the life of me remember where or who wrote it, but it went like this.

Way back during WW2, when there were obviously US troops in the UK, there was an incredible rise in the rates of pregnancies.

A sociological study was undertaken to understand why. And they found out the following.

In the US, it was norm that the male tries, and tries and will try again. It is subconsciously understood that it is the female who holds on to her pants. The man's role is that of making it obvious he is after them.

On the contrary to this, the English culture cultivated the idea that it is the man's role to act like a gentleman, and retain his standards, and the ladies did not require to build excessive defenses. It was simply not proper to act ungentlemanly end of story. The girls did not understand standing off sexual advances. They were actually thrilled by it all, since it was something entirely new to the nature of the society they lived in. They were unable to cope with such situations and fell for it.

Times have changed of course, and certainly all the above does not apply to today's ethics.

But it does give an indication. In their point of view, it is what is expected of them. It doesn't even dawn on them that they may be doing something wrong.

It is a perception, wrong maybe, that it is the role to play in the mating game. The persistent hunter.

In situations like this, if the person simply persists, the best in my opinion is to walk. Your wires are simply crossed...you're on two different plains of thought.

Hope it can be of help to understand better.

Tend to agree with this....said so earlier on...



1: No thank you
2: Nasty look
3: Kick him in the balls

females know how to play the game as well, they dress to expose just a little, play the game, a dozen guys come, then they say NO!!!

its all a game....but if its a no!!! well thats it, its a no, very easy to spell out!!! N.O..

its choice, but as long as they know, NO from a guy also means NO, doesnt matter how much they try it on!!!

guys might get rejected, but they live with it, but girls if rejected, all hell breaks lose...

It might have more to do with the caliber of guy you are dating. I agree with Ken in that most guys do know what "no" means and they respect it. It's mainly the sleazoids that will keep after you. JMHO

ok simply answer if you go out with a guy an he tries a thing behind you, you tell him no, if he still tries you kick him in his balls an you run like hell.

....and my opinion too!

Ain't that a fact!

I have had possibly two lovers who after we broke up did not want a rerun months and sometimes years later. I would show up at some social function with someone else and the next thing I would have Ms Months Ago leaning drunkenly against me and telling me that we should go somewhere better. This was probably done to break up what they would see as a new relationship ffor me. I ain't James Bond. Anyway, I don't leave my date mid date. I didn't do it to them and I wouldn't do it to someone else.

Talk about "WOMAN SCORNED"!!!
No meant no ... My no means no too.

Oh NO! I'm not blaming capitalism for that. I am "blaming" ("recognising" would be a better word) human sociology.

She may have tested you, pretz.

Besides, sometimes it pays to have a think...

about 10 seconds may just be long enough

I think!

As long as time doesn't stand still, a no, means no! She said no because she wasn't ready. Seconds/ minutes later, she agreed, because she was ready then. She was sure whe wanted it then, not a minute before.

What about guys who say 'no', at full mast?


Do men not really think, when in that state?

Oh yes, we men should all be tested ... Tested to distruction is best. I have always wondered why women who would know better than to poke dogs with a stick because one will eventually bite them don't know better than to (figuratively speaking) poke a much more dangerous animal - men.

If you have got to the point where you HAVE to say "NO!" I would say your credibility is approaching zero anyway.
Hint 1. When he goes to put his arm around you say -
a. I am not ready to go into a romantic relationship. If he gets defensive, offensive or plan repulsive say, "With anybody at this time."
b. If he won't take is arm away from you say, "I have made my feelings on physical contact with you clear. Please remove your arm."
c. If he still won't remove his arm say, "What you are doing constitutes physical assault and is a crime. Remove your arm now and leave." (this is a fact in any Western democracy).
d. If he doesn't leave immediately he is commiting the further crime of trespass.

However, if you are both sitting on the couch, his pants are unzipped, you bra is pushed out of the way and your panties are around your knees ... then "No" probably doesn't have the same credibility as above. But worse than that for you ... if you really mean "NO" ... is that the prosecutor is going to have a really difficult time convincing the jury that you actually did mean "NO".

Trust me on two things -
1. Me are generally physically stronger than women are. Helen Ready told lies. You should have headed him off LONG before the "pass".
2. While prosecutors love to try rape cases where there is clear evidence of forced sexual intercourse, they hate trying cases where clothes were alread on the floor and the word "NO" suddenly dropped into the room.


All of the above was written in the sincere hope that trauma will be avioded by all.

from your forum remarks above this one from you, im starting to think you have answered your question about females as well!!!

and men do think at full mast, maybe he had seconds thought once the person was naked... clothes cover up alot!!!!

It was all humour. Why would a man say no to me, at full mast?