Whose fault is it? Palestinian gang in Gaza (Hemas) or Isreal goverment?

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Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Just put your ideas and if possible support them.



livinglarge in a good place , Kildare Ireland
Allen38: Just put your ideas and if possible support them.


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gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
Allen38: Just put your ideas and if possible support them.


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Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Merry Xmas!

But! but! your idea! just condolences to them!
ooby_dooby Ashland, Virginia USA
Just because it's a certain date on the calandar doesn't mean people stop yearning to be free and have their own country or stop launching morters and rockets and air strikes. This may be the BEST time to discuss this topic and resolve that 2009 all this hostility ends and Palistine will have their own country and Israel can live in peace. That's all they want anyway.



Mankind_ NY, New York USA
ooby_dooby: Just because it's a certain date on the calandar doesn't mean people stop yearning to be free and have their own country or stop launching morters and rockets and air strikes. This may be the BEST time to discuss this topic and resolve that 2009 all this hostility ends and Palistine will have their own country and Israel can live in peace. That's all they want anyway.


If that's as simple as you described why all these years didn't that happen?




Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Mankind_: If that's as simple as you described why all these years didn't that happen?


ya that's the problem 61 years of war!
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Hamas begins unprovoked rocket attacks from Gaza and Israel responds thus making clear that Israel is the ugly ogre in the situation. Since there was no such place as the nation of Palestine prior to 1948, I am wondering why Egypt, Jordan, or Syria have not created a homeland for these folks who are ethnically theirs. Moreover, when a nation of Palestine was offered upon the creation of Israel, the Arabs rejected it in favor of pushing for the destruction of Israel instead. We see how that effort has played out over the last 60 years. We should of course turn our back on the only true and functioning democracy in the middle east, it’s the right thing to do.




Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Thank you Conrad. A philosophical response!
ooby_dooby Ashland, Virginia USA
Mankind_: If that's as simple as you described why all these years didn't that happen?


I don't know, greed, pride, hatred, fear, politics, religion, all of the above, take your pick. dunno

ooby_dooby Ashland, Virginia USA
Hamas begins unprovoked rocket attacks from Gaza and Israel responds thus making clear that Israel is the ugly ogre in the situation. Since there was no such place as the nation of Palestine prior to 1948, I am wondering why Egypt, Jordan, or Syria have not created a homeland for these folks who are ethnically theirs. Moreover, when a nation of Palestine was offered upon the creation of Israel, the Arabs rejected it in favor of pushing for the destruction of Israel instead. We see how that effort has played out over the last 60 years. We should of course turn our back on the only true and functioning democracy in the middle east, it’s the right thing to do.[/quote]

Could you expand on this conrad?



dazzling_dave Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Conrad73: Hamas begins unprovoked rocket attacks from Gaza and Israel responds thus making clear that Israel is the ugly ogre in the situation. Since there was no such place as the nation of Palestine prior to 1948, I am wondering why Egypt, Jordan, or Syria have not created a homeland for these folks who are ethnically theirs. Moreover, when a nation of Palestine was offered upon the creation of Israel, the Arabs rejected it in favor of pushing for the destruction of Israel instead. We see how that effort has played out over the last 60 years. We should of course turn our back on the only true and functioning democracy in the middle east, it’s the right thing to do.


If Egypt, Jordan or Syria were to give up land in order for the Palestinians to have a country, Israel would still be in existence. That is why these countries will not allow their own countrymen back into their country. This has always been about wiping Israel from the face of the earth.



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
they are equally guilty. But you don't us a steamroller to kill an ant!! Israel is taking this opportunity to show it's real colors.Using way too much excessive force. Becau
se there are a handful of Hamas renegades....you dont wipe out a whole population. If another country did that...Condi Rice would call it ethnic cleansing. But because it is Israel, it's self presevation!!



U.S. and Egypt seem to be the only countries that see nothing wrong with Isa\rael's behavior.


What is the difference between Israel saying "....this is a war to the bitter end" and Iran saying, "...Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth"?

Is that not the same thing.

Israel and Hamas needs to come to terma without the U.S or Egypt's intervention.

The U.S supplies weapons to Israel and Syria supplies to Hamas. STOP IT!!



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
why an I typing in red???



dazzling_dave Waynesboro, Virginia USA
pretzelman: why an I typing in red???


Ooby started it. It's his fault. rolling on the floor laughing



Mankind_ NY, New York USA
pretzelman: they are equally guilty. But you don't us a steamroller to kill an ant!! Israel is taking this opportunity to show it's real colors.Using way too much excessive force. Becau
se there are a handful of Hamas renegades....you dont wipe out a whole population. If another country did that...Condi Rice would call it ethnic cleansing. But because it is Israel, it's self presevation!!
U.S. and Egypt seem to be the only countries that see nothing wrong with Isa
ael's behavior.What is the difference between Israel saying "....this is a war to the bitter end" and Iran saying, "...Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth"?

Is that not the same thing.

Israel and Hamas needs to come to terma without the U.S or Egypt's intervention.

The U.S supplies weapons to Israel and Syria supplies to Hamas. STOP IT!!


I believe that is important to look at the solutions, not the problem. That is good that you came up with some solutions. I also think that if other countries stop interfering in the other countries problems and circumstances they also find them selves more serious to resolve their problems themselves with out any interference.

Don’t you think?







pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Mankind_: I believe that is important to look at the solutions, not the problem. That is good that you came up with some solutions. I also think that if other countries stop interfering in the other countries problems and circumstances they also find them selves more serious to resolve their problems themselves with out any interference.

Don’t you think?




Agreed!!



wixomwizard Wixom, Michigan USA
pretzelman: why an I typing in red???


It was blue a little while ago. Maybe CS is going Patriotic. I hope they don't use white ink, or we'll never be able to read the posts.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Happy New Year Pretz!!!
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pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
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