Whose fault is it? Palestinian gang in Gaza (Hemas) or Isreal goverment?

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COSMICDUST Newark, Delaware USA
Allen38: Just put your ideas and if possible support them.

The perception of right on this planet is personalised, there for some undisclosed entities, have interest in keeping the conflicts going.
There is no way, we humans could not impose, our affairs, higher standards, if we wanted too, but guys like dick call the shots, that's the problem.



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
zeelanderer: Maybe we will all luck out and a giant comet will hit the planet and kill every living thing on it.

zee



But wouldn't that destroy the environment?

Besides, Barak Obama is going to fix everything when he gets in. grin



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
The civilians had the chance to stop the missle attacks and didn't. Fot turning a blind eye, this is what they get. There are NO innocent people in Gaza. I have even seen pics of kids carrying guns.

Zee
vinny1967 On Tour, Devon, England UK
Indyfella: Sociopaths use anything they can find...including religeon. Rather than blaming it totally on religeon, maybe look to the personalities that manipulate the religeon.

JMO


thumbs up

While I think religion is and has been at the root of a lot of conflicts I think it is sometimes blamed incorrectly, as the root of the problem. The problems in N Ireland were blamed on religion, where IMO it was more about power, land and wealth. Too many people were quick to blame it on religion when it was not in fact the root of the problem.



I can't believe I'm agreein with Indy



doh



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
Indyfella: But wouldn't that destroy the environment?

Besides, Barak Obama is going to fix everything when he gets in.


Yes, but an ice covered comet with stop Al Gore and his threat of Global Warming..... Take that Al Gore you Evil Doer.

zee



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
They aren't the civilians who shoot the messiles! And they can't stop shooting! you know Gaza is under control of a terrorist group and people are really innocent, why not?! our difference is that we have different destiny and were born in another place. All people are responsible for this slaughter in the world! Free palestine! Yes free Palestine!



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
WOW this is an easy one, Hamas's fault fr constantly trying to kill innocent Isreali's and breaking each and every truce that they have agree with.....

OK give me a harder one..laugh
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Allen38: They aren't the civilians who shoot the messiles! And they can't stop shooting! you know Gaza is under control of a terrorist group and people are really innocent, why not?! our difference is that we have different destiny and were born in another place. All people are responsible for this slaughter in the world! Free palestine! Yes free Palestine!
To get it under the Thumb of you Mullahs?
Bad Idea,some of the Problem right now,contributing to the Intransigence of Hamas.wave



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Yes it's Hemas's fault, but what about innocent peoplle being slaughtered?! War must be stopped even it is Hemas's fault!
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
In response to: Just put your ideas and if possible support them.



There is no point in determining fault...the truth is it's both Israel...Palestine and Hamas's fault...but then I can also see where Palestine would have a gripe with almost 90% of their land-base being encroached upon illegally...and barely a land-base left to sustain themselves...this from 6% of the land-base granted to them by the British...whose land it wasn't to give away in the first place as it was and has always been settled by the Arab people... and the Arab people graciously taking them into Palestine as refugees...So Israel has the power to end this conflict by giving Palestine the land back that they require to exist....their right to a free state as the indigenous people's of the land...and compensation for the rest...and letting them exercise their right to self-determination...however...it is they who have refused to do so....thumbs up


http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html


wine



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
Allen38: Yes it's Hemas's fault, but what about innocent peoplle being slaughtered?! War must be stopped even it is Hemas's fault!


well there is also the people they are calling innocent people that may very well of supported Hamas, that have been killed, I want stats, on the innocent people killed that didn't support what Hamas is doing...JMO



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Indyfella: Who broke the latest cease-fire. Therein may lie the problem.



Nobody broke a cease fire! The rockets started AFTER the cease fire, ended


Though in saying that, I don't believe Hamas was right in starting the rockets, again.

Again, I'll say both sides are at fault. Israel for closing borders for supplies, causing a humanitarian crises. Of course the U.S. doesn't see it that way, because we have been doing the exact same thing to Cuba for decades. it accomplishes nothing but suffering for the citizens.

And Hamas for agitating the Israelis.

Diplomacy works better in the long run

Again, JMO



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Sure Conrad! But The governments must try their best to satisfy the desires in any way to stop the war!
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Who annected the Westbank in 1948?
Who occupied the Gaza-Strip in the same year?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

So who ripped off whom?conversing wave
gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
Allen38: They aren't the civilians who shoot the messiles! And they can't stop shooting! you know Gaza is under control of a terrorist group and people are really innocent, why not?! our difference is that we have different destiny and were born in another place. All people are responsible for this slaughter in the world! Free palestine! Yes free Palestine!


Hamas has enshrined in it's beliefs the following two articles.

1: The annihilation of Israel.

2: The adaptation of Koranic Law to run the country.


In the first instance, Israel is the West. Waging armed attack on Israel is equivalent to attacking the West.

Western society is secular. All of our political system abide by differentiating between Church, (or Religion), and State.

Believe me, we all want to see a Free Independant and DEMOCRATIC palestine for the palestinian people....

but with Hamas ruling it, that becomes, and is a direct threat to the security and freedom of all other societies in the area who have chosen democracy to rule by.

Be they Arab, Western, Catholic or Muslim.

wine



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
Thoughtful responses! but I think Israel intention is beyond what we see. We don't know the end, but sure we know that diplomasy works!



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
gozoman2: Hamas has enshrined in it's beliefs the following two articles.

1: The annihilation of Israel.

2: The adaptation of Koranic Law to run the country.In the first instance, Israel is the West. Waging armed attack on Israel is equivalent to attacking the West.

Western society is secular. All of our political system abide by differentiating between Church, (or Religion), and State.
Believe me, we all want to see a Free Independant and DEMOCRATIC palestine for the palestinian people....

but with Hamas ruling it, that becomes, and is a direct threat to the security and freedom of all other societies in the area who have chosen democracy to rule by.

Be they Arab, Western, Catholic or Muslim.



This statement is totally bogus. Western society is based upon Christian teachings. To deny that is to turn a blind eye on our laws and culture.

Here in the U.S. the issue of gay relationships and abortion are the primary examples of Christianity ruling our culture and legal system.



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
No parties in the world seeking annihilation of Israel, it's the politics. We must see why they talk this way. Why Irani goverment sometimes utters that nonsence. their intention and the benefits they desire, is of a great importance!
gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
pretzelman: This statement is totally bogus. Western society is based upon Christian teachings. To deny that is to turn a blind eye on our laws and culture.

Here in the U.S. the issue of gay relationships and abortion are the primary examples of Christianity ruling our culture and legal system.


That's the US...

THIS is the EU......

wine



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
gozoman2: That's the US...

THIS is the EU......



yes....but you DID say "the west"cheers




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