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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Steevyv: Konrad, Konrad. Nacizam is nacizam. And the ghetto is always ghetto. Doesn't meter if it is in Warsaw or Gaza. The same people ( are they for real people ) create them. Brothers in crime.
Hamas through their actions created it,otherwise they would be free to travel outside Gaza.Why should I ask anyone bent on murdering me into my House?
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Conrad73: Hamas through their actions created it,otherwise they would be free to travel outside Gaza.Why should I ask anyone bent on murdering me into my House?
Sad thing is,that all the rest of the People have to suffer alongside them.wave



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
JacobGrimm: Seems like a LOT of LEADERS manage to turn/twist religious FOLLOWERS to their own benefit

just a minor correction in the reality of it





That is not accurate, either. A lot of "laymen" twist religion of their own choice. Then seek out "LEADERS" who agree with them!professor



JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
pretzelman: That is not accurate, either. A lot of "laymen" twist religion of their own choice. Then seek out "LEADERS" who agree with them!


you mean mercenaries?



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
JacobGrimm: you mean mercenaries?



No way did "mercenaries" enter into what I saiddoh



JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
pretzelman: No way did "mercenaries" enter into what I said


are you sure... mercenaries are sneaky rolling on the floor laughing
Steevyv sisak, Central Croatia Croatia
Conrad73: I am even older to remember back a few years to the inception of Israel,when 25 mio Arabs said they were going to push the Jew into the Sea,Egypt occupying Gaza and Jordan annexing The Westbank.In effect stealing their Brethren's Homeland!


And what does proof this? That Israel has the same "rights" against Palestinians that Nazi Germany took herself to create "Lebensrhaum" with Jews and Slavic nations ?

Whose land have occupied Egypt and Jordan. Israels? On whose land is constituted Israel? Israels?
There was no Israel State for 2000 years and this, present, is virtually created under impressions of holocaust and some other interests, without asking Palestinians and other Arabs, on their territory .
That is the fact.
Don't tell me that you don't know this.
And don't tell me that you don't know why Brits were there drawing frontiers the way they did, with ruler like I said, and why SSSR voted in UN for and USA against constituting of State Israel.


Steevyv sisak, Central Croatia Croatia
Conrad73: Hamas through their actions created it,otherwise they would be free to travel outside Gaza.Why should I ask anyone bent on murdering me into my House?

Like I said: in your house: no way. But if you are sitting in my ex house from which you have expeld me and my family than the circumstances are quiet different.
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Steevyv: Like I said: in your house: no way. But if you are sitting in my ex house from which you have expeld me and my family than the circumstances are quiet different.
From which Egypt an Jordan has expelled me.
But I am not trying to convince you,you have to believe what you have to believe.handshake wave
reb56 carthage, Missouri USA
after,a year of attacks,what took the jewish state,so long to attack?usa,would be right on it.
Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Steve
In response to: Like I said: in your house: no way. But if you are sitting in my ex house from which you have expeld me and my family than the circumstances are quiet different.


Then they cannot deal with reality. Reality is that there are four million Zionists living there who are not going anywhere. If they prefer to attack them and invoke what will ultimately be total destruction of their people's meagar life than negotiate on how to live together then so be it.

I should remind you that my people were murdered, raped, occupied, assimilated time and time again. In fact, the least amount of atrocities occurred to my aboriginal heritage while the European end of my family suffered the worst with wars, theft of land and such going back to pre bronze age times. After that, it was Romans, Gauls. Normans, Vikings etc. Palestinians have squat on martyrism.
CuspofMagic Crystal City, South Australia Australia
ideals of men

Quote by Mark Twain: "Some men worship rank, some worship heroes, some worship power, some worship God, and over these ideals they dispute

and these same men/women are themselves single beings(As we all are)that prey on the minds of innocents/educated in their evil endeavours for "control" of who would be the "chosen" when, eventually this earth has only the capacity in supporting the few .

---Forced "Natural Selection
Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
CuspofMagic
In response to: ideals of men


Reality. So hard for people to accept. The chosen few are those who are here. That some stupidly wish to deal in the past when the present passes them by and assures a future of misery is not my problem. I, like my fore bearers am like a reed in the wind, bending to what life throws at them in order to provide for me and mine the best I can do rather than live in a world where my hatred rules.

I worship survivors, not martyrs or oppressors. And, believe it or not, have a peace plan that might work but it's tough love on both sides.

I'll have to throw it out in a blog maybe tomorrow.

CuspofMagic Crystal City, South Australia Australia
Drewski: CuspofMagic

Reality. So hard for people to accept. The chosen few are those who are here. That some stupidly wish to deal in the past when the present passes them by and assures a future of misery is not my problem. I, like my fore bearers am like a reed in the wind, bending to what life throws at them in order to provide for me and mine the best I can do rather than live in a world where my hatred rules.

I worship survivors, not martyrs or oppressors. And, believe it or not, have a peace plan that might work but it's tough love on both sides.

I'll have to throw it out in a blog maybe tomorrow.


--- "we" are easily blinded - controlled through the ideals of men/women, cemented with naive hatred and fear

--tough peace is better than bitter war
Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
In response to: --tough peace is better than bitter war


Well ye shall be first to receive my words of foolishness then as you understand how reality must prevail over love and hatred.

CuspofMagic Crystal City, South Australia Australia
Drewski: Well ye shall be first to receive my words of foolishness then as you understand how reality must prevail over love and hatred.


I have no doubt the words which you will write will be as real as the energy that permeates my body and put many times past handshake
CuspofMagic Crystal City, South Australia Australia
ps I would much rather be a fool that lives and gives life than a power monger who manipulates to cause death of a fellow being
Steevyv sisak, Central Croatia Croatia
Conrad73: From which Egypt an Jordan has expelled me.
But I am not trying to convince you,you have to believe what you have to believe.

Sorry to hear that. Like I said: Nobody has right to expel nobody from his home under any excuse. I am not on anybody side and. This are my principles and that is all. Equally valid for all. As much as in Palestine, Zimbabwe, or here where I live.
Now there is problem Israel . They don't allow to reporters to enter into Gaza, they don't allow to neutral observers to enter in Gaza, they are blocking international human help to enter into Gaza. They wish to hide from the world and world public opinion what they are doing there. Why? Because they are now providing there something bad that is called a state terror. Highly intensive. Each building blown up, by the air strike, with tenants together is a war crime. Nobody can say that civilians a collateral victims. That what is talking Tizi Lipi is reminding me on Biljana Plavšic( now in prison sentenced for war crime)who replied on a reporters question if she knows that in Sarajevo her army is killing babies and children replied that this is the problem of their parents who don't wont to surrender not her.
Fact is that Israel is spending last benefits of peoples sympathies and sorrow for Jewish suffering in WW2. Now they are doing some very similar things that Hitler have done to them and some of the methods of their acting are the same. Shame is that Israel misuses holocaust and death of 6.000.000 Jews like a moral credit to do what he is doing for decades.

peace



Allen38 Isfahan Iran
WAR has'nt been stopped yet! what do you have to say. I f you were in the shoes of Palestinians or Israeli people to live in horror what would you do. Ya horror! horror! horror!
Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Steve
In response to: Now there is problem Israel . They don't allow to reporters to enter into Gaza, they don't allow to neutral observers to enter in Gaza, they are blocking international human help to enter into Gaza. They wish to hide from the world and world public opinion what they are doing there. Why? Because they are now providing there something bad that is called a state terror. Highly intensive. Each building blown up, by the air strike, with tenants together is a war crime. Nobody can say that civilians a collateral victims.


Israel is at war with the elected government of Palestine which was attacking Israeli civilians. When a government attacks another government they generally go to war, not try to get journalists in and out safely.

Steve
In response to:
Fact is that Israel is spending last benefits of peoples sympathies and sorrow for Jewish suffering in WW2. Now they are doing some very similar things that Hitler have done to them and some of the methods of their acting are the same. Shame is that Israel misuses holocaust and death of 6.000.000 Jews like a moral credit to do what he is doing for decades.


From everything that I have read I don't think there is or was much good will towards Israel anyhow. Sides, I think they gave up trying to get people to like them a long time ago in favor of doing what every responsible government would do if they had their citizens attacked.




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