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Palestine is not Hamas. Hamas is an organization construed by the powers that be in the Middle East that have the erradication of Israel as their only goal.
Palestine is the hotbed because they are seen as expendable by their own 'elected' officials. The horror of the events of this region allow the nations of differing Arabs to come together in a similar cause. The enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of way. It keeps them unified so that the Kurds that remain and others who have been persecuted within their onw borders can come together and hate a common foe.
Bombing Palestine into the stone age is not any sort of responsible answer.
Hamas is one of the true enemies and perhaps Zion if they continue without the hydra of Hamas to oppose.

nope I was mocquing the guy that wanted to kill the palestinians dogs

Been to Canada many times eh? and this is all you have learned? That tells alot and proves everything that I have concluded about your narrow minded thinking. Many extra shifts? LOL Your a joke. The fact that you support Palestine and Hamas is a only more proof at how little you know what is going on there.

I have friends and family from both sides and both had to move from there homes away from the borders. Hamas have always been the instigators in this conflict. Israel just wants peace that is why they have given up land and keep trying for cease fires. All the while Palestine and hamas soldiers go across the borders and rape and rob from Israel homes. But of course people ignore this fact because it is not often publicized. Israel is a proud country and is trying to prove to the world that they can stand up for themselves instead of whining like the Palestine do. My friend who is Palestine told me that children in schools are taught to hate Israel and are encourage to act in the name of God to do harm to the people. She does'nt like this way of schooling. Israel is not taught to be like that.

So yea it ticks me off when those like you Antjo39 come on here shooting off your mouth about things you obviously only watch on TV thinking you know everything when you don't.

the hamas morons brought this on themselves and their people--hamas are cowards and terrorists; they should be eliminated

If God gave anyone a specific portion of land then perhaps we should leave it in His capable hands and not interfere?
No one owns the land and even ownership of the land as idiotic as that seems is no reason to kill a race of human beings. God does not say any part of kill them all once Christ comes to remove our sins. Christ added one commandment which fulfills all of our needs. Love one another... There is no Love in war only death.

Yes...I agree that's not the answer and for those that think it isssssss...perhaps they too should think of it on a worldwide basis and what the reprecussions would be...if it started to happen with other similar land occupations as well...if this ideal was embraced as the way to resolve them....

I agree, we eleminate hamas first then isreal as they are coward and terrorists too.

fully agree with you sir

I agree, but either the Palistinian "people" drive Hamas out or the Isreali's will take care of them, but with many unfortunite innocent casualties. but I don't see them wanting to work with the Isreali Gov. to rid themselves of Hamas...... So why? unless they support their actions...

I completly ageee with you BarrenPneuma!
And indeed, it takes to have the eyes of the mind to see the real issues beyond the borders governments try to draw for the masses. Unfortunately, they succeed in their manipulations of the masses and one of the consequences is the instigation.But people do not see that.

I am in America and we are not required to believe what you believe. Thats what makes us great. Thats why we will always be a great people. Terrorist like Hamas only make us stronger and that holds true for Israel as well.

If one looks at the histories of many modern Muslim countries. Where the population make up of Muslim is usually well over
95% Muslim....even though Christian, the Jews, and many other
faiths at one time or another lived in the country,,,this is because the Muslims were so friendly with them that they decided to stay? they were invited to stay?

No

Is like what is happening in Southern Phillipine Islands....where
Christian villagers wake to find neighbors beheaded in the night.
Abu Sybu Islamic terrorists come to visit and to leave a message.
Leave or die.

This has gone on Muslim country after country over the years. That is why the there is little intregration of other faiths and people within them.

Muslims have use violence (in the name of Jahid) to justify acts so actrocious few history books write of them. They have done it without legal due process, by stealth, and by deceit.

It has gone on for 100s of years. Today, western society and western governments have realized this history of atrocity in the Muslim world. Your own B. Bhutto wrote of it. So does Salam Rhuside....what do they get? Either a Fatwa for death or a suceide bomber.

This last year. The first Christian was placed onto the Iraqi
Legislature, ever! Ever! In Iran they just make a special seat for a Christian to occupy. Though Christians have lived in these countries for 100s of years. In Lebanon, your country. Hezbollah disrupts any and every elected coalition government made. And to finish off the Fatah party of Hamas, in Gaza the planted a bomb under the security headquarters of the Fatah party. Then detonated it...then rush in and executed the survivors some 16, while Abbas was out of country.

The west has become award of these internal acts of Islam. We understand them better now. We place 9/11 into the perspective of them. Note how few American are posting here. That silence should tell you 1000s of words.

Now you turn to the international community....shouting Isreal the terrorist...killer of Palestine....many in the international community have a deaf ear to the plea....and you ask why?
Well history is hard teacher at times. It has taught us about radical Muslim violence against the west and against moderate Muslims. How can we separate the violence of Hamas against Isreal
from that? Just as the west and moderate Muslim claim the right of defense....so does Israel.

At least now you are not talking as you craftmen do in the bar. The I can reply.
If you are so right in your views, why do you have to get out of control?
I will leave you with your stuff -so broad minded according to your version- There is nothing to say about that. If you came out of your country more often you would hear some stuff. In India, Indonesia, Laos, Ecuador, Bolivia and so on , the Israeli soldiers who go on tour after service are not really welcome. Hitler behind all that? oh yes for sure.
In fact no, it is just what you say: proud country and peace-lovers what makes them not so welcome.
I will explain, the ex-army guys pretend any poor one in this world is like a warrying Palestinian, so they disrespect, insult, mistreat people in those countries. Locals do not know about the conflict in the Middle East but they just learn those guys have something wrong in their hearts (of course there are exceptions but very few). I just point this out. I just wonder why all your stuff does not go with reality well.
I have not seen anything what I say in TV. That is a habit of blue-collar workers , not mine. I do not even have time for TV, so tell that to other Canadians or people like you.
By the way, I have been for the last three years in sabattical leave in Haifa Tech and I have talked to many people from Israel. Well, people with brains and also people that have hearts that still feel something beyond the rigid truths that are called broad mindedness by the big bosses and their followers.

Have you eventually known who synthesized cocaine and when?
I am still waiting for your brainy replies.

Don't you get it at all people?????? With such a way of thinking, things will never stop.
X is conviced he should kill Y, 'cause it is more rightful to do it then Y, Y things he should exterminate X because he thinks, i his turn , the same: he is very rightful to do so.

Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are we heading with such ideas????
If we transmit such values, such ways of seeing things to our children, more attrocities will follow and never end.

Excuse me sir, I am writing from South America. I mean still this is in America. Can I get included in your discourse or you are talking baout the USA?
It is just that I want to bath myself with some patriotic sense of duty and being great.
Thanks for reading this.

How exactly will Israel deal with Hamas to get rid of them?

Are you proposing a proper war like when the Red Army entered Berlin and shot pretty much anything that they saw?

Only way to rid a land of people that you would like to see eliminated is kill everything that moves.

Then i am afraid every last Arab in the world will quite rightly go mental along with many that are not Arabic.

My uncle was present at the liberation of a REAL concentration camp, he had Jews turning up at his wifes address in Glasgow until 1954 to say thank you for what he did there.

His wife told me only some 6 months ago that some things i found out as a child that i didn't like (that say they threw nets over cats and dogs in Berlin and kicked them to death instead of shooting them) because they were desensitized against cruelty and had lost part of what made them human, due to the nature of going around the globe on the basis of Nationalism to kill other people.

This man was a strong willed man (he was in the SAS)and i never saw him eating meat, and that wasn't because he was a veggie.

Human beings that are on fire smell in a particular way, and sadly these things happen in war, and it's not good to just think "ok lets take them out" unless you have the conviction yourself to pick up a weapon and go over there and be willing to shoot these people personally.

To just cheapen life by being an armchair general and just write other people off is not shall we say something i want to witness not even in writing on a website.

And with that i am off, it's a new year and i certainly don't want to see this type of comments one day into a new year.

dear Sophie,

thats exactly whats happening, settlements and settlers being insetified to come to israel for better life which is not given to local people.

too bad when u live in ur european country and I come to enjoy better life because your government represent the minority and just want to become a majority.

they invite people from outside to come and live in setlements in our lands not palestine but our
actual lands.[/quote

Hi samans,

Could you please be more specific? I m not sure I got what you meant

THX

Israel should not be involved with the dissolution of Hamas. It is an entity of the Arab world and should be lanced by them as they are the ones truly responsible for the deaths that occur in that region.

Hugz n Kissez,

This is what I've just said: if the answer to violence is violence, things can't but get worse and worse. And some are good at instigating.

It will be sorted out by GOD at the end, but I know alot of people on here are non- believers, but just wait and see. this will happen...... There will be a three and a half yr. peace only after the Rapture takes place and the anti-christ is in power.... All nations will love this man that comes to power, he will perform miracles(mis-spelled)?? and do things that are not humanly possible, and all people of all nations will except him as the Messiah then that is where there will be a 3 1/2 yr. peace at the beginning of the 7 yr. tribulation and the last 3 1/2 yrs. will be hell on earth and those who remember the words that they have heard before the Rapture( where thousands of people if not millions would have vanished)or maybe they all drop dead??? but it will happen all at once... that do not except this miracle man as the Messiah will be beheaded...

When the Rapture takes place, One person will step forward and have all the anwsers and that person will be the anti-christ, the only thing that the Bible does mention is that he will come out of "Rome" or that area, and that he will not desire the compan of a woman, but the thing is he will have to have some Jewish heritage for the Jews to accept him. The Bible also says that he will receive a wound in his forehead and will not die... So people who do not make the Rapture have those things to look for..

The Bible says that in the last days, he will gather his Jewish people to their origal homeland(1948)Isreal became a state, it mentions that in the last days it will become a gay society, that you will not know the times of the seasons, that there will be earthquakes in divers places etc. etc. and all you have to do is look around you... What is happening

The Bible says that in order to buy sell or trade, you will have to accept the mark of the beast(anti-christ) which is 666, and it says that it will be in you palm or in your forehead..

Look at Europe they have the Vera chip and another kind(can'remember what it is called)that is being implanted under the skin to have control over important info or security accesses to place and such.....the more people get used to it, the more acceptable it will become... It is on a radio frequency

The Bible was a very useful tool created to manipulate. And it seems to be working!