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rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
hi evrone i am continuing this thread (game i know, stupid, possibly........) please can we have factual debate hereteddybear
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
rocketqueen: hi evrone i am continuing this thread (game i know, stupid, possibly........) please can we have factual debate here
Was that really necessary,judging by the other Thread?frustrated
Sommerauer71 Hallein, Salzburg Austria
Conrad73: Was that really necessary,judging by the other Thread?


Went well did it Conrad?

Abram Goshen, Ohio USA
Sommerauer71: Went well did it Conrad?


I actually found it kind of telling, about how you could see who, completely bought into the propaganda from both sides of the issue, and who actually understood to cause of the issue, and how it would ultimately be resolved. Actually heard an ex-Hamas student leader, the son of a Hamas leader, who, on Foxnews this morning, spoke of how it would come to an end. An action that will take the total defeat of radical Islam, and is more reliant on the people, themselves, of Islamic faith, to stand up, negate, radical Islamic leadership. A leadership responsible for more deaths on both sides, of their self-loving instigation.
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Sommerauer71: Went well did it Conrad?
Just too much hate crawled out of the Woodwork.sigh
Not surprising,most directed at "Jews"confused doh
agman Eagle, Idaho USA
The last I saw of archaeological evidence of Israel is that they
came from the Canaanites of the region which is also the same
origin of the Arabs. So genetically they have very much in common.
The hatred these people have is nothing more than Ideological.
I suspect what should be done is to have a Palestinians Police
have more stronger weapons to crack down on illegal firing of
rockets as well as stronger laws to imprison criminals.
Also, should create jobs in Palestine to keep younger people
out of trouble.



solitare Munchen, Bayern Germany
So far, every post condemning or praising Hamas or all, in fact, on all the various resistance groups of Palestinians are nearly exact duplications of all that has ever been said of the PLO when it first burst upon the chaos of Middle East politics and armed conflict in the 60's. And now look at the current status and situation of the PLO. It is "deja vue". I would again strongly urge people to actually read over the entire history of Yasser Arafat and the PLO and its evolution and to also compare his record of "terrorist activities" with those of Menachin Begin, Zionist terrorist turned politician. Two fanatics.
The old PLO and this 'new' one are still an umbrella with many other groups much more 'radical' than the Hamas people, not to mention the several other groups allied in spirit perhaps with Hamas but certainly not answerable to Hamas in any way. These disparate groups are rarely ever mentioned as being totally separate and distinct from other groups, same with those with affiliations with the PLO. The only group totally independent from both factions are currently non operational and that is the old PFLP, arguably one of the most deadly and still influential radical resistance groups among all of the groups against Israel. (Did anyone realize that Dayan and Arafat were related by marriage) Who was Dr. George Habash? )
Whatever side one supports, what ever happened to the ancient dictum of 'know thy enemy'...(???)
If one is going to express anything about a topic, the very least they can do is to know of what you are talking about, which there has been little so far by most. Emotions and actual knowledge are not the same thing no matter how much one wants it to be. Certainly inane little moronic quips and constant referrals to web links are no excuse from actually saying or really contributing to the 'debates' and certainly neither are personalized insults, character assassinations and just plain vulgar ravings of imbecilic uneducated primitives.
Educate yourselves on the PLO and its history. Education is free...a great bargain these days! (If one has a mind for it, that is :laugh



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
solitare: So far, every post condemning or praising Hamas or all, in fact, on all the various resistance groups of Palestinians are nearly exact duplications of all that has ever been said of the PLO when it first burst upon the chaos of Middle East politics and armed conflict in the 60's. And now look at the current status and situation of the PLO. It is "deja vue". I would again strongly urge people to actually read over the entire history of Yasser Arafat and the PLO and its evolution and to also compare his record of "terrorist activities" with those of Menachin Begin, Zionist terrorist turned politician. Two fanatics.
The old PLO and this 'new' one are still an umbrella with many other groups much more 'radical' than the Hamas people, not to mention the several other groups allied in spirit perhaps with Hamas but certainly not answerable to Hamas in any way. These disparate groups are rarely ever mentioned as being totally separate and distinct from other groups, same with those with affiliations with the PLO. The only group totally independent from both factions are currently non operational and that is the old PFLP, arguably one of the most deadly and still influential radical resistance groups among all of the groups against Israel. (Did anyone realize that Dayan and Arafat were related by marriage) Who was Dr. George Habash? )
Whatever side one supports, what ever happened to the ancient dictum of 'know thy enemy'...(???)
If one is going to express anything about a topic, the very least they can do is to know of what you are talking about, which there has been little so far by most. Emotions and actual knowledge are not the same thing no matter how much one wants it to be. Certainly inane little moronic quips and constant referrals to web links are no excuse from actually saying or really contributing to the 'debates' and certainly neither are personalized insults, character assassinations and just plain vulgar ravings of imbecilic uneducated primitives.
Educate yourselves on the PLO and its history. Education is free...a great bargain these days! (If one has a mind for it, that is :laugh



hey you know what ..................i have been sayin this all along..........be informed know what yer talking about, then please have an open and honest debate on this issue and no personal insults please...................stands to reason, well maybe.............
highfidelity Europe, Bundesland Germany
Abram: I actually found it kind of telling, about how you could see who, completely bought into the propaganda from both sides of the issue, and who actually understood to cause of the issue, and how it would ultimately be resolved. Actually heard an ex-Hamas student leader, the son of a Hamas leader, who, on Foxnews this morning, spoke of how it would come to an end. An action that will take the total defeat of radical Islam, and is more reliant on the people, themselves, of Islamic faith, to stand up, negate, radical Islamic leadership. A leadership responsible for more deaths on both sides, of their self-loving instigation.


Wowww .. Abram sorry I don´t watch Fox news myself because I have a Fox-News-Allergie .. but honestly I very surprised if a EX-Hamas student leader - son of a Hamas leader would make such a statement on TV and that only on FOX. roll eyes



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
highfidelity: Wowww .. Abram sorry I don´t watch Fox news myself because I have a Fox-News-Allergie .. but honestly I very surprised if a EX-Hamas student leader - son of a Hamas leader would make such a statement on TV and that only on FOX.



I watch it also...it's true if you care to learn something, but that would require that you put you hate and biasness aside for a moment.........so we realize that won't happenlaugh
highfidelity Europe, Bundesland Germany
Tater: I watch it also...it's true if you care to learn something, but that would require that you put you hate and biasness aside for a moment.........so we realize that won't happen



How you come to think I feed on hate ?? I never wrote a hate post in here either .. did I ?? dunno
I would say I am open minded - just not mainstream perhaps but always ready to learn some new facts professor
but honestly - to change my mind on FOX NEWS - something rather drastically would have to change with what they call news grin




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