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long live YITZAK RABIN...................

Sorry, I forgot to close my quotes.

My last post should read like this




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The Jews, or rather Zionism, declared war on Germany in 1933.
Years before the rise of the brownshirts.
And it was precisely due to the effect of the worldwide Jewish boycott of German goods that Hitler considered the Jews to be enemies of the state and began a policy of persecution.
(after all they had declared war on Germany long before the nazis began to persecute them)

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html



Al Jazeera is, and always has been, the voice of the CIA in the middle east. It was set up specifically to serve as the "evil voice of Islam" to be quoted by the western press. It broadcasts out of Qatar, where the US has its biggest base in the world.

The government of Qatar was installed by the CIA and there would certainly not be any radio station there that in any way conflicted with US interests.

Yes they broadcast hateful things using fake "Imams".
And that serves US interests by poisoning public opinion against Islam.

Manipulating public opinion is the most important part of modern warfare.

It wouldn't go so far as to say the thread(s) are miserable but I will say they are much less useful to anyone seriously interested in exchanging ideas.

I can't speak for mankind being doomed either but it does seem as though we are taking a brisk walk down the path of selfdestruction. We;re alkmost there in the middle east.

I am reminded of how things like race, patriotism, nationality, religion and plain old guilt are used to beat the drum of divisiveness.

One can plainly see it here, and so no real debate, no real solutions make ground, no real information is disseminated. The seed of peace is often squashed by the marching feet of division.

Do not have a whole lot to watch, and actually, my last time in Peru, Yarinacocha, Pucallpa area, taught me a lot of its worth, and what really creates my wealth. Lessons both, Israel, and Palestine, can hold in their hands, and read, but when narrowly defined by their leaders without question, can be a weapon, in, and of itself, acting to destroy wealth.

There are also many other facets of this whole situation an others like it. There are many whom do not hold with the leaders they have. However to speack out IS a Death sentence from their own. This has been shown in Iraq and other places. The common peoples are getting tire of being slaughtered and there are those that are coming out to speak out. It will take time, as the horrors of war outweigh the risk of speaking up for reason and truth.

Do not forget, before 6o yrs ago, there were many Palestinian people familes of all faiths and Jewish families that lived for centuries side by side in peace and prosperity. Given this, I beleive Peace WILL come again to the area.


So in this light, your recommendation is quite archaic and uncalled for, and fanning the problem, not helping imo.

AH, de-struction is the precurser to con-struction. When we realise what they are building there we may find the wealth, though not in the hands of it's people.

The 'promised land' has been -war, lather, rinse, repeat, for 6000 yrs, so this building is not visible as an edifice. Trading one wealth for another?

Since we are all basically following the same "Ten Comandments" what happened to "Thou shalt not kill"?, I think both sides are wrong.

All the debating in spacetime will not stop the ZIONIST vs REST OF THE WORLD conflict which is the ONLY issue in this life. It will never end, because the rot has consumed everything that resembles wisdom in this dimension. So let us keep on chattering like parrots here while the evil grows like terminal cancer. Peace will never be until we bomb ourselves out of physical existence. Then will there be peace because there will be no-one left to do the fighting. This has happened before and will happen again I presume. Long live the silent tenacious cockroach that has survived and will live on after our demise. The strongest living thing that has been here before Atlantis and which will survive even this modern BEDLAM. HAIL the powerful cockroach that happily eats shit and laughs and waves goodbye to us all........GOODNIGHT BELIEVERS

Punishment doesn't fit the crime. hahah those rockets are a joke....but those israleiz missiles are NO Joke.

do you know stressfree?

I've never heard it put quite that way but it fits.

On a more serious note. I think it's a given we (this forum) will never be able to agree on blame for this conflict. Personally, I think they're equal share holders with one paying a much higher price. That being said, what do you think would be a viable solution? I mean, there have been a number of options throughout the years i.e. two state solution, Israel returning land, The elimination of Israel, the elimination or obsorbtion of all the disputed territories by Israel, etc...

There was a time when I thought the two state solution would work but all attempts have failed thus far. Neither side have honestly negotiated or held up their agreements. I tend to believe now that the only solution left is for the two parties to kill each other until one submits to the other. I know that's really negative but I just don't believe either to ba capable of honest dialogue.

Well, it's gym time and I need to get my sluggish self moving.

Ah Mr. Grimm, what is needed to create wealth? Does it grow from the ground, and become available of its own, or is there another element needed in the process? I, myself, have panned gold from a mountain stream, and it became an asset, who's value I shared with others has I purchased from them. Was the wealth in the flake of gold sitting in the bottom of the stream, or in my work retreiving it, and sharing its benefit. Was it a wealthy endeavor on my part, or the flakes of gold?

Has the wealth of the Promised Land, both Gaza, and Israel, been in the hands of the land itself, or the people who have been fighting, and killing over it for 6000 plus years? More then likely you will find the wealth contained of the land, material wealth, its claim of glory, lay in the hands of its controlling leadership, and trickling down to its real wealth from there. Both controlling leaderships, Hamas, Israel, use the wealth of their people, to destroy what creates the wealth of a nation. The wealth is in the people, for the leadership controlling controlling them.

I give you this example. What ruling power controls the democracy of America? Its republic, the people, the wealth of a nation, that provides opportunity for all.

stop talking bullshit , you mind is sicken by reading the wrong stuff

Hi Rocketqueen!! You summed it up quite well what has been going on with this forum. Guess we are in deep trouble on this forum as to try to get through all the name calling and swearing and lambasting posts to each other and searching out for the Jews. Eh?

The only benefit I see here on this forum is if one wants to meet someone, they most certainly can find someone who is in their same mindset when it comes to name calling and degradation of another person's character or background. Sad but so true!

I have nothing against Jews or Arabs. But the sad thing is that Europe or the US citizens can't critisize Israel because they backfire straight away that you are a racist.
Well if you hang signs in your Israelian city's " no Arabs allowed" or "forbidden for Arabs", while this people lived there before you.....unbelievable
if one nation should learn something from the past it has to be the Jews. Whats next a sign on there cloth?
But also the Arab world is very agressive towards Israel. If you hear the Iranian president on the tally and you know he is funding Hamas, I'm scared this conflict will go's on forever.
When can christians, jews,muslims,hindoe's and budhist's can live in peace and when can the rich share there wealth with the poor????
Strange also that Europe pay's the big part of humitarian help instead of the very wealthy Arab oil nations. Same with the tsunami in Indonesia a couple of years ago. The biggest muslim country in the world but the aid came from the western country's.
Even tho they get attacked by fundamentalists????????????in Bali
It's a strange world..............

Hmm, I wonder why Arab nations don't help their brothers out and give them weapons and some logistical support? Could there be a reason behind that? Could Saudi Arabian royalty be afraid of being ousted and replaced by religious fanatics as in so many Muslim countries...

damnit women i am trying hard to be an uneducated pain in the ass with a stupid opinion and no original thoughts

so because there are a minority of fundamentalists in Indonesia, you let rot the majority in a country. hmmmm wonder what Allah or God will do with you. Don't think you get 72 virgins

whow wish i could afford that expensive good shit