Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !

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JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
Baskaladd: What do you think about Hammas storing bombs in their homes where there are little children present? When Israel goes in for a raid, they precisely target where the bombs are, well, it's too bad that it just so happens that those bombs are stored in someone's private home! Maybe they should think twice about where to store them! Poor kids. Yeah, but stupid parents.


And who supplies them with the target information? Surely not the parents or the children or their own bretheren.

This is an emotional media ploy. Build the curtain of hate with nonsensical spacial information for which proof either way is unattainable. You have been affected as intended.
leolove1 sydney, New South Wales Australia
even if my brain is not that fast
that doesn't mean that the thinking is wrong
better slow and have a good point then quick telling all kind of nonsense
Antjo39: hahaha
you do not even know me.
It shows how fast your brain is just to shoot nonsensical stuff...
mbcasey North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA
Antjo39: Maybe free tours for the CS heroes that waste their precious life discussing endless crap while others die miserably?

Your idea is not bad really, though it shows that money is always made on top of piles of suffering.


Money is being made now with all the suffering.

When Arafat died, his wife inherited over a billion dollars....

The US send Israel billions of dollars every year....

The pain and suffering and greed is there. Let's take away the pain and suffering and worry about greed later.

The loss of prescious life will end. A 21st solution will begin. Maybe even a profit sharing plan with the citizens of countries in the area who have received the least of all middle east countries.

Everyone benefits.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Baskaladd: What do you think about Hammas storing bombs in their homes where there are little children present? When Israel goes in for a raid, they precisely target where the bombs are, well, it's too bad that it just so happens that those bombs are stored in someone's private home! Maybe they should think twice about where to store them! Poor kids. Yeah, but stupid parents.

Don´t you think that report sounds a little bit like the dangerous weaponry deposits Saddam "had" menacing the peace of the world? Did they find it?
I have seen some of the videos of explosions and they do not seem to carry an extra explosion of a deposit of ammunition or stuff like that but just a regular bomb of the size thrown by the israeli jets.
Have they shown proof of what they say about the "storing bombs in their homes where there are little children present"? The explosions do not show that at least.
With that lie, they can pound almost everything and hold no responsibility. What a trick!
They also say they have prevented people by sending them text-messages before the explosions... well.... do not blow the telephone towers up first then!!!
All bullshit just to mask plain extermination of anything Palestinian in there.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: even if my brain is not that fast
that doesn't mean that the thinking is wrong
better slow and have a good point then quick telling all kind of nonsense

See, you are talking in a better way. Now, say whatever you want about those terrible terrorists but with good support of fact, logic and history...
It is up to you.



JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
mbcasey:

The pain and suffering and greed is there. Let's take away the pain and suffering and worry about greed later.



the ideal is good thumbs up



but ....



What if greed and suffering are two ends of the same stick?
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
mbcasey: Money is being made now with all the suffering.

When Arafat died, his wife inherited over a billion dollars....

The US send Israel billions of dollars every year....

The pain and suffering and greed is there. Let's take away the pain and suffering and worry about greed later.

The loss of prescious life will end. A 21st solution will begin. Maybe even a profit sharing plan with the citizens of countries in the area who have received the least of all middle east countries.

Everyone benefits.

I see. I see.cheers
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Antjo39: Hey!!!
From counsellor to peace-amker...??
The first job makes a little bit more sense though both have to do with FUCKED-UP beyond-help humans...



Hey I can see exactly the picture..cause it's the same picture of genocide and displacement that happened here in North America with the Native people...so yes I appreciate and know first hand just what it's like...and I don't see just one side firing rockets...I see the whole picture...and Israel is the instigator by provocation and the exterminator veiled as self-defense...and always has been in order to implement their Zionist all Jewish state...and the agenda hasn't changed once since before 1948...to get rid of the Arab people...the indigenous people who welcomed them to their own land as refugees and then shit on them by taking 90% of it...and not allowing them even to return to their own homes and they are still displaced...living at the mercy of the invaders of their own country...so yep...I have much sympathy...wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: who 's talking bombastic?
can you give any sensible reply that responds to what I mention
something that can disapprove the facts that I mentioned
or are you also just talking bullshit

Can you repeat your points please to see if I can answer properly? I just read how much you hated those Islamic "terrorists". Certainly I could not prove your hatred wrong because that is something inside your heart.
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
JacobGrimm: One needs to know the real problem in order to solve or affect change. I don't beleive that I know factually what has been going on. The weed has grwon very large and that makes it harder to find the roots. If I was a betting man (and I am on football even thou I tend to lose more than I win) my option would be to eliminate gods and holy books to begin with. Religion is a drum of unification, beaten often, it is used to join more people than one nation can muster on its own, it crosses borders, permeates society globally and makes those 'followers' members of that army of god. You can clearly see it here, the animosity between arabs and christians, no real discussion, no consideration of facts, just rock lobbing. Sadly.

The world needs to shift. Isreal cannot be and need not be, nor do they need borders.

Any real solution to this is to say the least, a momnumental task. The powers that be, who continue to lather rinse and repeat the process are firmly entrenched and hidden behind god.
This god is misused and has been since Sumar where it began.

Even if I am wrong about this, the divisiveness that is present in such a small part of this world and spreads itself out amongst mankind will take years of effort to repair. And if 6000 yrs isn't enough to prove there is no real effort from mankind as a whole, then you would have more hope than I do.

I'm not predicting the end of the world, I don't believe that will happen, nukes, blah blah blah. They've had enough knives and guns for centuries to wipe out the whole earth and have done with it. No, this is not the end, just a continuance oo what those powers are building and sucking from mankind.

Ask yourself, what does war do? What does it accomplish? Who benefits. Surely not its soldiers. Or its citizens. Fuck me, if 4 way stop signs at corners are enough to civilize man, thn the civilazation seems easy. Who does not want man to be civil? The answers would astound you.

The answer to that is the question "agreements made by whom and for whom?"

Two states! Another answer. The state of peace and the state of combat. Choose one. If we can't be peaceful here on this issue we are unwittingly their soldiers, for both sides.


Your comment on religion makes sense. Unfortunately, I think we'd have a better chance of inviting the planet to a worldwide pork Bar-B-Que and beer bash than have religion abolished. Besides, I am fond of the right to practice my own. The point is taken though. Religion is not used for the reasons it was intended (or is it)?

You pose an interesting question about what war does. Off the top of my head I would have to say it creates wealth and removes opposition to a certain group's ideals. I see this as a significant reason why this has lasted for as long as it has in the middle east. Same could be said for parts of Africa. Sad really.



Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
JacobGrimm: hey hugsy wugsy!!



Hey JG....wave wink hug kiss hug heart beating
leolove1 sydney, New South Wales Australia
you make a wrong judgement
I do not hate anybody ?
I only feel sorry for them
but You must see the fact that the misery they are in , they own it to themselves
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
JacobGrimm: And who supplies them with the target information? Surely not the parents or the children or their own bretheren.

This is an emotional media ploy. Build the curtain of hate with nonsensical spacial information for which proof either way is unattainable. You have been affected as intended.


Jacob, in answer to your question above:: I believe that it most likely is their own bretheren that are giving away where the weapons are stored by firing right from the building in the first place. They don't seem to be overly concerned regarding children or anyone that is inside the building before they start firing their rockets. It doesn't seem logical that they would put their children as a human shield. The IDF just traces the marker and fires right back to that location. Just as plain and simple as that! Just as plain as watching fireworks as they are being launched before they explode.crying doh
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Hugz_n_Kissez: Hey I can see exactly the picture..cause it's the same picture of genocide and displacement that happened here in North America with the Native people...so yes I appreciate and know first hand just what it's like...and I don't see just one side firing rockets...I see the whole picture...and Israel is the instigator by provocation and the exterminator veiled as self-defense...and always has been in order to implement their Zionist all Jewish state...and the agenda hasn't changed once since before 1948...to get rid of the Arab people...the indigenous people who welcomed them to their own land as refugees and then shit on them by taking 90% of it...and not allowing them even to return to their own homes and they are still displaced...living at the mercy of the invaders of their own country...so yep...I have much sympathy...

The indigenous people from America can easily see the similarities with the situation of Palestinians. There are differences too, but our hearts make us by their side. It does not mean exactly any kind of hate toward their oppressors (same way it does not make any sense to feed hate toward those that destroy our spirituality and our civilization) but it is just our hearts that feel sympathy for them, for the plain people suffering (and fuck off their leaders, Hamas and any other shit, that always manipulate and use people)
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
mbcasey: Money is being made now with all the suffering.

When Arafat died, his wife inherited over a billion dollars....
The US send Israel billions of dollars every year....

The pain and suffering and greed is there. Let's take away the pain and suffering and worry about greed later.

The loss of prescious life will end. A 21st solution will begin. Maybe even a profit sharing plan with the citizens of countries in the area who have received the least of all middle east countries.

Everyone benefits.

I never knew that but I can believe if I found solid proof. It is not surprising though.
Fucking phony politicians. If I hate someone is just all of them, but I mean all of them.
leolove1 sydney, New South Wales Australia
and if you do not know the facts , that I mentioned , just read what I 've said before
Antjo39: Can you repeat your points please to see if I can answer properly? I just read how much you hated those Islamic "terrorists". Certainly I could not prove your hatred wrong because that is something inside your heart.
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
Good night everyone, I'm going to bed. Just can't take anymore of this tonight. The bed is calling me...come here, come here now!! teddybear
leolove1 sydney, New South Wales Australia
the jewish people are also the indigenous people of "Israel", palestine, Jordan, Iraq,lebanon
Antjo39: The indigenous people from America can easily see the similarities with the situation of Palestinians. There are differences too, but our hearts make us by their side. It does not mean exactly any kind of hate toward their oppressors (same way it does not make any sense to feed hate toward those that destroy our spirituality and our civilization) but it is just our hearts that feel sympathy for them, for the plain people suffering (and fuck off their leaders, Hamas and any other shit, that always manipulate and use people)
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
LILLYLADY: Yes, I am aware of the Jewish Moranos of Spain, the forced conversions and also about the 1492 expulsion of the Jews of Spain and the fact that many of them went to Portugal. But even then many were forced out of so many countries and had to immigrate anywhere they could just to survive.That is the reason why you find a Jew or one of mixed Jewish heritage in so many places in the world where you probably wouldn't even think one would be there. So truly, it is not impossible for you to be racially mixed although showing no European looks. Genetics tells us much about ourselves besides just where we came from. It can be a blessing but yet a curse at the same time to know some things about ourselves. We go down the "rabbit hole" a bit further when we find out too much about ourselves sometimes. Can be very scary to say the least and challenging. Knowing one's genetic makeup can be quite an eye opener and even change the way a person perceives things after that.

Sure it is... and even just to look inisde and see that we are just a very fragile composition of cells working in a marvelous way to keep a miracle alive. The same for the other living creatures.
Those thoughts would make us less arrogant but unfortunately we can not keep them all the time as our dark side is stronger.
Too strong.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: the jewish people are also the indigenous people of "Israel", palestine, Jordan, Iraq,lebanon

No doubt, partially, not totally because they enriched their genetic tool in many ways during their journey ( I mean those that left Palestine or surrounding areas long ago) You also have to think of other entire populations that got converted to the Jewish religion (European and African Jews)




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