Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !

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leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
if I do not like the place where I am , I would just go and find a better place , that is better for my children. Better live a happy life with my kids then a bitter life with no kids



Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
JacobGrimm: And it's not easy for a common man to think so wickedly without becoming outraged.

The truely wicked, the one's who know and wield this power do not have this or many emotional compunctions at all. Civilians are just another brick in their wall.

Population is and has been a very big problem. Adding to this is the scare tacticts of media driven 2012, end of world prophecies all tied to Revelations and now you have millions of jesus's 'followers' wanting to be there, in the promised land for the liftoff to rapture.

All very disconcerting.


One would have thought we would have learned something from the great 2000 scare. I wonder what's after the 2012 scare? I'm thinking you and I will still be around in 2013 unless we die for some other reason.

Fear is a powerful weapon and motivational tool. It seems to mefear is quickly replacing sex as the best way to sell things nowadays. One of the first things I noticed when I returned to the US after being gone for 5 years was the amount of things being sold on TV with fear as the selling point.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: look , I have nothing against anybody who wants to live together
I do not like people who think that they are better then others just because their religion
fanatics , that are brainwashed by their stupid beliefs , their ignorance is even dangerous

I do not like them either... but do not you think that many (not all but many) Israelis and Westerners think they are better than the Arabs (especially of those poor ones living in Palestine) Well, you sounded like that to my ears. And sorry if I have been wrong.
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Antjo39: Baby, you will have to bring the bulldozers because I will blow up all the available ones (if your hidden plan is to invade my country)
But if you just want to stay peacefully ,my bed is wide and warm... just come over....



Well I'll have to think a little deeper on my motivations then...wink innocent grin hug kiss hug heart beating



JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
Sparky55: One would have thought we would have learned something from the great 2000 scare. I wonder what's after the 2012 scare? I'm thinking you and I will still be around in 2013 unless we die for some other reason.

Fear is a powerful weapon and motivational tool. It seems to mefear is quickly replacing sex as the best way to sell things nowadays. One of the first things I noticed when I returned to the US after being gone for 5 years was the amount of things being sold on TV with fear as the selling point.


And at a time when money is scare too. Odd huh?

Even a cursory understanding of psychology lends itself well to realising what is going on. Motivation, drum pounding. And god is all about fear. At least the biblical god is.

Consider a control freak, who's first action is to intimidate, or instill fear. They don't do it because it doesn't work, they do it because it does work. Knowledge of the gods?

Even Psyche 101 gives one a better understanding of what one is dealing with.

I do hope however that they bring back the sex ads laugh devil Even if I don't buy something, its about all I'm getting at the mo' rolling on the floor laughing
dinncat limerick, Limerick Ireland
I think we have talked enough ,time for work ,Israel is only using the rockets and Hamas , as an excuse , they just need more land , less Palestinians, its a security matter ,Israel will never have security as long as Palistinians are around the corner , there will never be a peace treaty with any Palistinenians there for , all that believe that Israel is killing the palisteinians just for their own good must now act cut every thing to do with Israel ,sever all communication business that directly pore money onto Israel ,time to act enough blah blah blah , let us all stand for humanity and do something for the right of humans ,Zionists ,have to go home where ever they came from ,
WWW.inminds.com/boycott-brands

where do they get their oil from ,
leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
I do not know what other people might think, I do not feel better than them , I just see how primitive these people are and feel sorry for the problems they cause themselves by their primitive reactions , so they have to learn from their mistakes , same like we got wiser by ours
Antjo39: I do not like them either... but do not you think that many (not all but many) Israelis and Westerners think they are better than the Arabs (especially of those poor ones living in Palestine) Well, you sounded like that to my ears. And sorry if I have been wrong.
leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
and all the Irish have to come back from Australia and U.S.laugh
dinncat: I think we have talked enough ,time for work ,Israel is only using the rockets and Hamas , as an excuse , they just need more land , less Palestinians, its a security matter ,Israel will never have security as long as Palistinians are around the corner , there will never be a peace treaty with any Palistinenians there for , all that believe that Israel is killing the palisteinians just for their own good must now act cut every thing to do with Israel ,sever all communication business that directly pore money onto Israel ,time to act enough blah blah blah , let us all stand for humanity and do something for the right of humans ,Zionists ,have to go home where ever they came from ,
WWW.inminds.com/boycott-brands

where do they get their oil from ,
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
dinncat: I think we have talked enough ,time for work ,Israel is only using the rockets and Hamas , as an excuse , they just need more land , less Palestinians, its a security matter ,Israel will never have security as long as Palistinians are around the corner , there will never be a peace treaty with any Palistinenians there for , all that believe that Israel is killing the palisteinians just for their own good must now act cut every thing to do with Israel ,sever all communication business that directly pore money onto Israel ,time to act enough blah blah blah , let us all stand for humanity and do something for the right of humans ,Zionists ,have to go home where ever they came from ,
WWW.inminds.com/boycott-brands

where do they get their oil from ,


I was just going to go to sleep but I decided to check the last post and here is my addition to what all Jew-Zionist haters should also boycott especially since you seem to very very insistent on having everyone suddenly start boycotting. Courtesy of the late Sam Levinson.

"It's a free world. You don't have to like Jews, but if you don't, I suggest that you boycott certain Jewish products like insulin..discovered by Dr Minkoski, the vaccine for hepatitis...discovered by Baruch Blumberg, chlorhydrate for convulsions...discovered by Dr. J. Von Liebig, the Wasserman test for syphillis, streptomycin...discovered by Dr. Selman Abraham Waxman, the polio pill by Dr. Albert Sabin...and the polio vaccine by Dr. Jonas Salk.
Good!Boycott! But fanaticism requires that all bigots accept diabetes, hepatitis, convulsions, syphillis, infectious diseases and polio. You want to be mad? Be mad! But I'm telling you, you ain't going to feel so good."

Good night to all now. May you all have a pleasanat day or evening.

dinncat limerick, Limerick Ireland
Well if they go about not respecting people and they go about killing yes they should ,
dinncat limerick, Limerick Ireland
no i like jews good jews wouldn't kill my best friend is a jew from Poland
dinncat limerick, Limerick Ireland
My Doctor was a jew too until i moved ,to the city he was my doctor for more then 8 years and both Yacob and Doctor Ivor we have discussed the issues and they know what iam talking a bout their are many many jews would not agree with what Israel is doing ,do you know where the arab jew stand in an Israely community
solitare Victoria's Secret, British Columbia Canada
nora83: part II ! its day number 10 , over 530 are killed , 30% are kids , please share !


So far, every post condemning or praising Hamas or all, in fact, on all the various resistance groups of Palestinians are nearly exact duplications of all that has ever been said of the PLO when it first burst upon the chaos of Middle East politics and armed conflict in the 60's. And now look at the current status and situation of the PLO. It is "deja vue". I would again strongly urge people to actually read over the entire history of Yasser Arafat and the PLO and its evolution and to also compare his record of "terrorist activities" with those of Menachin Begin, Zionist terrorist turned politician. Two fanatics.
The old PLO and this 'new' one are still an umbrella with many other groups much more 'radical' than the Hamas people, not to mention the several other groups allied in spirit perhaps with Hamas but certainly not answerable to Hamas in any way. These disparate groups are rarely ever mentioned as being totally separate and distinct from other groups, same with those with affiliations with the PLO. The only group totally independent from both factions are currently non operational and that is the old PFLP, arguably one of the most deadly and still influential radical resistance groups among all of the groups against Israel. (Did anyone realize that Dayan and Arafat were related by marriage) Who was Dr. George Habash? )
Whatever side one supports, what ever happened to the ancient dictum of 'know thy enemy'...(???)
If one is going to express anything about a topic, the very least they can do is to know of what you are talking about, which there has been little so far by most. Emotions and actual knowledge are not the same thing no matter how much one wants it to be. Certainly inane little moronic quips, baiting posters, and constant referrals to web links are no excuse from actually saying or really contributing to the 'debates' and certainly neither are personalized insults, character assassinations, belittling and demeaning patronizing, and just plain vulgar ravings of imbecilic uneducated juvenile primitive all with the boring use of the usual obscenities. Savages to just ignore.
Educate yourselves on the PLO and its history. Education is free...a great bargain these days! Today the US news media, especially NBC from NY has been complaining or boasting, sometimes not sure which, that they have no reporters inside Gaza over and over. The claim is that the Israeli military has barred all foreign journalists , and yet we have lots of reports and video footage from various Arabic news reporters from Gaza, in the streets showing the full impact of the death and destruction going on; this smells of news censorship by the US media once again. Another story was that Us news outlets were offered news video by Arab reporters working free lance and were turned down being told they and whatever they filmed were 'unreliable' according to the news here in Tripoli, again this smells of news censorship by the US media as no one here or in Europe have problems with their reporters inside Gaza City...



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well I'll have to think a little deeper on my motivations then...

make love, not war..........love, love, love...........all you need is lovekiss purple heart heart wings teddybear yay love smitten thumbs up wave peace peace
Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Rocket
In response to: all you need is love


Actually more like common sense for those you love. Classical Greek warfare is inevitable consequences and Hamas fails to understand this preferring to sacrifice those they love to hate their enemy.

Their enemy inevitably takes the land from which they attck them from and uses it as a buffer zone so that further attacks cannot occur from there. Later, as things settle down, settlers place pressure on the Israeli government to take that land and use it rather than turn it back to those that would use it to attack once again.

It's inevitable, when rockets are fired, Israel must respond and stop it, the land from which attacks come from must not be returned to be used for further attacks. And so, Gaza will grow smaller and smaller. Attacks will occur again and then, they will once again be pushed into a smaller area.

Of course, for Palestinians, negotiations based on peace are out of the question because they have world opinion on their side. World opinion that does not take into account that if they were attacked, they would do anything to stop those who were attacking them and in fact, demand that the government that they pay taxes to stop it no matter what even if it means others die. Meanwhile, settlers will profit from the land they used to kill from until common sense prevails.

Egypt, Jordan and now Syria understands all this. Palestinians do as well and, so does Hamas however, like Al Qaeda, they need this conflict to remain a respected force.

A force for agitation to propagate their hold on power as Israelis would give anything for peace except their lives.



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
Drewski: Rocket

Actually more like common sense for those you love. Classical Greek warfare is inevitable consequences and Hamas fails to understand this preferring to sacrifice those they love to hate their enemy.

Their enemy inevitably takes the land from which they attck them from and uses it as a buffer zone so that further attacks cannot occur from there. Later, as things settle down, settlers place pressure on the Israeli government to take that land and use it rather than turn it back to those that would use it to attack once again.

It's inevitable, when rockets are fired, Israel must respond and stop it, the land from which attacks come from must not be returned to be used for further attacks. And so, Gaza will grow smaller and smaller. Attacks will occur again and then, they will once again be pushed into a smaller area.

Of course, for Palestinians, negotiations based on peace are out of the question because they have world opinion on their side. World opinion that does not take into account that if they were attacked, they would do anything to stop those who were attacking them and in fact, demand that the government that they pay taxes to stop it no matter what even if it means others die. Meanwhile, settlers will profit from the land they used to kill from until common sense prevails.

Egypt, Jordan and now Syria understands all this. Palestinians do as well and, so does Hamas however, like Al Qaeda, they need this conflict to remain a respected force.

A force for agitation to propagate their hold on power as Israelis would give anything for peace except their lives.



thanks for the info, but i was actually refering to hugs and kisses and antjo's funny flirting thing, after they had debated previous points.....please view my previous posts, i'm not a delusional hippy, lmao
RayfromUSA vienne, Rhone-Alpes France
leolove1: if I do not like the place where I am , I would just go and find a better place , that is better for my children. Better live a happy life with my kids then a bitter life with no kids


Yeah, I like my neighbor's house more than my own.
I think I'll go move in at gunpoint.
And if he doesn't like it, he can always go find some other place to live.

After all, my ancestors the dinosaurs used to roam this entire planet, so rightfully it's all mine.



Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Baskaladd: What do you think about Hammas storing bombs in their homes where there are little children present? When Israel goes in for a raid, they precisely target where the bombs are, well, it's too bad that it just so happens that those bombs are stored in someone's private home! Maybe they should think twice about where to store them! Poor kids. Yeah, but stupid parents.
thumbs up

Kids make great shields and make for great tv footage when they are turned into victims by their parents.



nora83 Amman Jordan
LILLYLADY: Nora,
Please stop whining!

The world didn't go in to stop the Jewish Holocaust, Rwanda, Ethiopia nor the Protestant and Catholic fighting in Ireland and more hotspots that I can't think of right now. Example, Europe was being taken over by the Nazi regime country after country during the war years. It wasn't until the U.S.had Pearl Harbor bombed that we actually went to war. Once America got into the various European countries to chase out the Nazis, only then did see the workings of the Holocaust. If Hitler had succeeded and completely conquered Europe, then the U.S. and Mideast would have been next. Had to stop Germany and Japan both as they were in collusion with each other. If the Mideast was conquered by Germany, Hitler's pure Aryan race idea would have had drastic deadly effects for your people also and many others.This may be a bit graphic here. Palestinians and mideasterners in general would have certainly faced the crematoriums or some type of pit.
Now let's fast forward to present day and give you a fair but honest answer to your comment above about "who cares?"
Where were your people helping out when everyone else was dying? Or did they dance in the streets as Jews,Rwandans,Ethiopians, Protestants, Catholics died or did they just turn their back and say that's not our problem? We see great celebration in the streets on Al Jazeera network as people of other nations are dying. It's painful for the world to see those celebrations. Makes many people angry.
Please don't yell about a new Holocaust and who cares to all of us here on CS! When your people care about peace and "step up to the plate" to work for peace in a non violent way, only then will the whole world really care!!
You started a thread that is very hurtful and painful to many of us here. I'm trying to be very polite but realistic in the way it really is.



thanks for your post ,

well , first , why d ou think that my thread hurts , bcz it shows the crimes of your nation !! you want it all hidden ? huh !

and , yes i still say again and again , who cares m bcz let me tell you something dear , 570 are killed so far , and nobody cares , i mean internationally , politicially , not ppl in the CS !! i really wonder wat would happen if Hamas killed 578 israeli !! wat would happen , i bet the UN , the States , the EU , would beat all arabs in Palestine ,

why everyone is blaming Hamas , its ELECTED by Palestinians , we want them to rule us , wat do u have to do with this ?? where is demogracy ? do u want to choose our leaders as well ??!

and im still using thr very polite language too , never willed to insult any , and will not .

we can se the whole world cares , we watch the TV , millions went to protest aganist the israeli crimes and raids , they all believe in us , tell me when did ppl world side ever went our their places in the cold , under the rain , to protest for the sake of Israelies ? when ? if you recall any ? plz inform me , im 25 and i never recall such thing

have a good day




nora83 Amman Jordan
linarl: Just because I speak the language and I read the history of the area I want to explain something. When they chant the motto (it is an ugly motto anyway) above in Gaza or any arab country it is not directed toward Jews or Judiasm as a religion. It is directed toward the Israelis who accepted to move into a land that it is not theirs and accepted the killing that has been going on since Israelis occupied Palestinians'lands in 1948 till this day. This struggle is not between religions and never has been. It is a struggle over a land as simple as it is. I think many Jews understand this fact and that is why you find many groups support the Palestinian in their case.



very smart ,, its not a matter of religion , its a matter of principles, political views , in the name of religion, they said isreal was istablished bcz they lived here 2000 years ago , and the " land was a gift from God ' , while if you read more about the israeli society , you will find out that the majority of israelis living in Palestine now , are Atheists, so how can you take a lnd by the name of religion and saying that it was a gift from GOD , while you are actually Atheist, thats shows that it a a game. after the WWII , the worls found out that they dont want the JEWS to live with them , they decided to gather them and istablish them a country , in the name of religion , all faked !




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