Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !

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leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
laugh laugh cheers this kid happens to be older than you mate , skoll
cosmicwonderer: Listen kid you`re too young to be discussing topics that you haven`t a clue about. Now if you ain`t got anything better to do go get a few 4X down your throat.



cosmicwonderer stockholm, Stockholm Sweden
leolove1: this kid happens to be older than you mate , skoll

WRONG YOBBO I`m 58



arranroot Athlone, Westmeath Ireland
RayfromUSA: Oh yes, I'm familiar with the Protocols.

Later research suggests that they are genuine but misattributed.
They don't reflect the plan of Judaism per se, but that of certain Kabbalists (who happened to be Jewish as well).

I won't get into details, but if one studies the protocols in the light of what is happening at this very moment, there are some very striking indications that they are genuine.

For example the protocols call for a worldwide economic crisis and global terrorism just prior to the revelation of a new world order that will promise to solve all the problems.

Keep watching.

New world order? Like the Roman Empire, British Empire, loads of Empires over in China, Mongolia, etc., etc., thats our history so its easy to predict, its like predicting a wheel will go round and round and round and ..... you get the point rolling on the floor laughing Its going to happen because thats how we humans exist so let me become another teller of the future.
In many eons yet to be the world will be lead by murdering corrupt rapers of the earth, they will starve the people of the earth and many will be the wars, death and destruction will terrorise every nation but from the darkness a saviour will arise. He will thwart the evil doers and banish the wicked. The meek and obedient will inherit all the world but only the followers of whoever will be saved.
How does that sound? Like every other religious book ever printed.
Its happening at this moment, its happened countless times before and it will continue to happen as long as man exists. Its our nature. Its what we do. Its how we live. Its humanity. Suck it up and stand up and be counted, stop being a sheep.
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
nora83: thnaks for your reply ,

well ! lets say all wat you said is correct , Jews lived in Palestine 2000 years ago, and they left , or had to leave , or anything happened .. and after these 2000 , lots of thing happened !! alooot , i mean its 2000 year , another nation lived there and here and died and other nations lived again and died and so on , so its kind of nor fair , to uproot the nation living currently in this land to replace them with the Jews m just for the fact that they lived here 2000 years ago , 2000 years ago , that caused huge disasters for our people , plus , we dont believe in your beliefs , when u say that you have the right to live here and rule the land bcz u livedhere 2000 years ago, the irabic islamic civilisation ( if you read in our history ) you will know that our impire extended into many far places , like the Spain , Turkey , China , and many other places, and lived there and ruled these lands for a longtime, and that was less than 1000 years ago, but we cant come now and accupy Spain or China or Turkey just bcz we lived there , i cant go there and kick its ppl our of it and kill them , and make of them refugees all over the world , committ crimes , just bcz my ancester lived there before , which is less than 2000 years ago , i never heard of this before .

thanks again for your post



Thank you Nora for your response. You have my admiration and respect for all the pain that you feel in your heart.
As I have mentioned in my posting to you, the Jews have never left the land in question over the 1000s of years, nor have your people either. Both were displaced or driven out on both sides. But many of both peoples were able to remain there and many descendants have come back to the area of their ancestors origins.
Both nations as descendants of Abraham should be able to share the land, not anihilate the other for the right to own everything. Hence the historical battles started happening and continue to this day.
I did see the CNN article where Hamas fired at Israel from a school right by the refugee camps and Israel fired back, thus killing many children. I cannot understand why anyone would shoot at their enemy and put their children right in the line of fire where the enemy is firing at them. Is this a religious obligation to do this? I do not understand the Islamic law if this is something that is approved of. This is not meant as a sarcastic question but truly, something that perhaps you might be able to clarify.
I have also just read on today's CNN a commentary by Arsalan Ilftikhar where he believes both sides are wrong in Gaza. He blames Hamas for provoking Israel with missle fire and then the disproportionate use of military retaliation by the Israelis. The entire article gives one pause to think with some deep thinking, being written by a man of middle eastern Islamic decent.
Bottom line here Nora is that both sides of the civilians have suffered, emotionally and physically. It will either come down to where Hamas is totally surrounded and will either hide themselves and shoot and continue to put their civilians in the crossfire or have the courage to lay down their weapons and sign a permanent peace treaty with Israel. I believe the Palestinian peoples future and recognition for statehood lies in having the honor to sign a peace treaty and permanently honor it. No more rockets into Israel, no more human life shed on either side.
They would not be the first to sign a peace treaty with the enemy in the entire history of the world. Japan and Egypt are examples of what could be acheived with a lasting peace with their sworn enemy...a chance for future generations. It has to be a lasting peace Nora for your people to have a chance. Please correct me if I'm wrong in stating that Japan and Egypt overall live in peace with their prior enemies. No bombs being dropped on each other that is.
Again, thanks for your posting.




JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
RayfromUSA: Oh yes, I'm familiar with the Protocols.

Later research suggests that they are genuine but misattributed.
They don't reflect the plan of Judaism per se, but that of certain Kabbalists (who happened to be Jewish as well).

I won't get into details, but if one studies the protocols in the light of what is happening at this very moment, there are some very striking indications that they are genuine.

For example the protocols call for a worldwide economic crisis and global terrorism just prior to the revelation of a new world order that will promise to solve all the problems.

Keep watching.


best get our boats in the water tip hat


How do you outsmart an elephant?


















elephants are smart? confused

laugh
leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
ok , maybe not in age , but in thinking
that I have a different Idea about the problem and how to solve it , doesn, t mean that I do not know what I'm talking about , does it?
cosmicwonderer: WRONG YOBBO I`m 58



cosmicwonderer stockholm, Stockholm Sweden
JacobGrimm: acting like him, will not remove him my man. It is only when mankind rises above this god that he will be defeated and becomes the former shadow of innocent men.

Of course you`re so right buddy but it seems that nobody is capable of removing him because him being the creator of everything he is the only one that can remove himself and I dont think he`s willin to do that any time sooncheers



arranroot Athlone, Westmeath Ireland
JacobGrimm: best get our boats in the water How do you outsmart an elephant?
elephants are smart?

rolling on the floor laughing
How do you outsmart an elephant?
arranroot: Who's leaders? How much of America's defence budget is spent controling the American population? Its not being spent protecting Americas borders, its spent spying on American's phone calls, e-mails, even this dating site. How many assassins does the FBI, CIA, NSA employ? Cope on Cj. Who own's America's banks? The Jews therefore who controls GB? Why the veto? Because that's what Israel want so thats what GB does. Hammas are nothing more than the victims and their families of murder sanctioned by Israel and aided by all the countries that so willingly gave and sold them their arsenal. Try standing up to your own leaders Cj. Martian Luther King did, who killed Kennedy? None of you are safe over there never mind Palestine, at least they know who's trying to kill them.


We do stand up to our leaders -it is called an Election.



cosmicwonderer stockholm, Stockholm Sweden
leolove1: ok , maybe not in age , but in thinking
that I have a different Idea about the problem and how to solve it , doesn, t mean that I do not know what I'm talking about , does it?
You really think you`re a problemsolving genius YES? Well why haven`t you solved the problem yet with your megabrain. Actually you`re a lovable kid so lets let you chatter away. G´DAY MATE



linarl Boston, Massachusetts USA
unfortunately, Israel chose to build its state by force and terror. It is sad when I think of it. I think Palestine is very important to all religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism) and a few powerful people did not have to follow on their unrealistic idea of taking Jews from all over the world and build a state for them in other people lands. Why do Jews need to build a state anyway? They could have came to Palestine and lived there as they used to do before 1948 and enjoy practicing their religion as the other two religions practiced in Palestine. A more peaceful approach from the beginning would have kept Palestine a beautiful place of the three religions living together. I met many Jews who asked me why would not Arabs unify their forces and kick the butt of Israel and just end the problem because what is going on is not good for most people. People who like to travel and visit many places in the Middle East like Jerusalem and cannot due to the Israel problem. people who feel that there are more important issues that we need to take care of like fighting famine and diseases. People who like to live in Peace and do not watch children killed every time Israel needs to prove a point and show off that it has a powerful superior army.
RayfromUSA vienne, Rhone-Alpes France
arranroot: Who's leaders? How much of America's defence budget is spent controling the American population? Its not being spent protecting Americas borders, its spent spying on American's phone calls, e-mails, even this dating site. How many assassins does the FBI, CIA, NSA employ? Cope on Cj. Who own's America's banks? The Jews therefore who controls GB? Why the veto? Because that's what Israel want so thats what GB does. Hammas are nothing more than the victims and their families of murder sanctioned by Israel and aided by all the countries that so willingly gave and sold them their arsenal. Try standing up to your own leaders Cj. Martian Luther King did, who killed Kennedy? None of you are safe over there never mind Palestine, at least they know who's trying to kill them.


I agree with your assessment.
That's the way the world has worked for centuries.

But I think things are about to change.

Evil is going global, and nationalistic evil, whether Jewish or British, or American or whatever, stands in the way and is scheduled for controlled demolition.

Watch for the rise of a World Government.



JacobGrimm Blah blah, Ontario Canada
cosmicwonderer: Of course you`re so right buddy but it seems that nobody is capable of removing him because him being the creator of everything he is the only one that can remove himself and I dont think he`s willin to do that any time soon


You miss the point sir.. there is no supreme god, but the god created by man.

Until we stop like this god acts, meaning all high and mighty, and full of damnation, he then still exists in us.

His removal comes from inside of you.



arranroot Athlone, Westmeath Ireland
Simple solution: A third party military organisation steps in and replaces ALL military organisations in the area, no governments are replaced, no people relocated, no destruction to property, everything stays the same except control of the military organisation that steps in. That has to be controlled by someone like the UN but with a very large input from both sides. Grievances regarding military offences should be dealt with by the same organisation. Civil and criminal offences should be dealt with by whatever organisations deal with them now. Change nothing but the Armies in the area and what happens? Nobody to launch rockets, if they do then they get hunted down by their own police or the other sides police if they are silly enough to cross the border and the UN type organisation. Any tanks or gunships that go on the offensive get blown apart with a zero tolerance policy. If peace is what a people want then sooner or later they have to stop fighting, Israel do not want peace they want power and wealth. If Hamas stopped firing rockets would that bring peace? Not a chance. The army that kills thousands creates infinity more hatred than the suicide bomber.



arranroot Athlone, Westmeath Ireland
CjTenorSax: We do stand up to our leaders -it is called an Election.

And that explains how GB got in twice rolling on the floor laughing who counts the votes? rolling on the floor laughing
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: ok , maybe not in age , but in thinking
that I have a different Idea about the problem and how to solve it , doesn, t mean that I do not know what I'm talking about , does it?

Hi, Leolove
Well, yesterday you stated that you good Western guys (I mean those loving democracy and freedom) were too soft with those fucking terrorists, so I ask is that the way to solve the problem? is that your solution?
Overkilling them?
Apart from that, you have only repeated over and over that it was right the Palestinian land was taken for all the reasons you could have in yor mind.

If that is the way to solve it, why don´t we start another thread discussing how many nuclear warheads are needed to exterminate all the Palestinians, and if you are not happy with that, how many additional ones are needed to kill all the freaking Arabs in their own countries? As for the rest that have emigrated to countries like you,maybe you could later propose something because you must also have some tips from the cleansing of aboriginal people in your country which you must have approved wholeheartedly and so proudly....

A clean planet!!! eh??



nora83 Amman Jordan
leolove1: first of all , I do not think that the Israeli are planning to kill your mother , if something like that would have happened , there must have been a reason or accident
secondly , it was a piece of dessert, a no-ones-land, with no government , only some nomads , herding sheeps and a few dwellings beside one big city of Jerusalem
they came with thousands and began to make the dessert into a fertile land
I had to flee my country , because we got an invasion of immigrants from whole over the world and they "occupied" my city



correction ! Palestine was never a piece of desert , i do really think that you need ot read more about Palestine bfore 1948 , there was a nation, houses , academic institutions , schools , theatres , shops and even tourism , please read more about the history of Palestine before the crisis of 1948 , and they didnt really make it a fertile land , the truth is , they are distroying all the farms everyday , it was fertile before their accupation .

please lets not talk or discuss something we are not sure of .
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
cosmicwonderer: Hello again my INCA friend. I´m back. I´m watching. But do you think that the chosen ones will ever stoop so low as to admit their guilt? I don`t think so and I don`t want to waste too much energy arguing with a nation of self righteous swine. After all the god of Abraham has always given them the priviledge of invading anybody they choose and to murder every living thing including the livestock and even the grass that the cattle eat. The only ones that are allowed to survive are the young girls that ``have not known man for these you shall save for yourselves`` so that thou shalt ravish their fresh bodies for such is the law of the almighty god of Abraham and who will dare dispute such a monster whose greatest hobby is to watch innocent souls fry in HELL?

Hi you there mate!!
Thanks for the compliments. Well, keep eyes wide open because there is still a long way ahead.
As for my contributions I do what I can... here I am so overloaded with my work to win my bread.... Anyway I will be around to wrestle with the holy fighters of freedom, democracy, peace and all that.
cheers



linarl Boston, Massachusetts USA
arranroot: And that explains how GB got in twice who counts the votes?


well said :)laugh



arranroot Athlone, Westmeath Ireland
RayfromUSA: I agree with your assessment.
That's the way the world has worked for centuries.

But I think things are about to change.

Evil is going global, and nationalistic evil, whether Jewish or British, or American or whatever, stands in the way and is scheduled for controlled demolition.

Watch for the rise of a World Government.


Lots of people can feel the change coming on. Evil isnt global, its human. A world government will rise and like every other government with very very few exceptions it will eventually become corrupt.




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