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who said any of us were sane?

Maybe its just me being in a bit of a mood..dont know, but there are times on here when a good conversation or debate gets going on here, then the and and sh*te begins which has no relevancy to the thread at all It kills agreat topic stone dead and for some reason its the same people over and over again who do it.
They are nice folks, and that is why I hold back, but once just once I wish they would leave a perfectly good thread alone. If they want to catch up with each other do it some where else

I believe the Forum Threads are here for each of us to do with as we wish. Some want to find a mate; some want to chat with friends; some want to raise hell; some want to scam us; some are here to entertain us; and probably many more reasons.

Sit back and enjoy the ride. If you have to scream at the computer!!!!!

There are some of us who actually do prefer a good conversation... although lately that´s been difficult to find so I haven´t been on much... I´ve said before that I´m not one for the chit chat and love you´s, either here or real life. When I care about someone, or am friends with someone I hope they realize it without all the gushy emotions.

Fair enough point, once..just once I would like to see a thread go the distance without the lovey doveys doing there thing in the middle of a great conversation. Over the years we have had fantastic discussions on here but they seem to be few and far between these days.

Its getting like Groundhog day in here for a while now...

Ditto

There are times when the chat and debates are going well..then the dreaded happens I feel at times like I am either going to or more often or not

Most of it is inane drivel.

That's because for the most part people cant even be bothered to be entertaining, informative or shall we say even display a personality for fear of being attacked, labelled a trouble maker or being antagonistic.

If people were just friendly and could debate, tell stories and try to amuse other it would be so much more amusing.

I've lost count how many mails i've received commenting on my written style and humour etc, but we just can't seem to engage the majority in the threads.

That's why the brainless threads just deteriorate in smiles hugs and general mutual appreciation society ass kissing.

I have to say i find most of that makes my skin crawl, makes me feel ill, and most importantly reminds me that i should be in here less!!

Please people, don't turn a debate into personal attacks! Debate like hell about your favourite sock or hair style, just anything other than dull sex threads when you don't even talk about sex!

Hell my cats could be more informative

I´ve been here on and off for three and a half years and I can tell you that it only gets worse! The same old threads recycled hundreds of times - patience does wear thin. How many times can you answer.."would you blah blah". However, for new people I can make excuses as they have no idea their question has been posed here many times before.

The secret is to take long breaks, and I mean weeks or months, not hours! And not to get involved behind the scenes too much.

That or you read the first page of a thread and then spend some time composing a 2 or 3 paragraph response only to find out that you´ve posted into the middle of one of these "love you" exchanges, and it was pointless to post anything because no one is discussing the topic any more!

CS has this already worked out........

There are IMs for people who want to catch up or chat or converse with each other, as opposed to discussing topics.

There are also chat rooms for groups of people who want to do these things together.

If people just want to chat, or catch up, or clown around, or whatever, there is also the option of starting a chat thread specifically to just have fun in, as opposed to ruining someone else's more serious topic by hijacking it with drivel etc.

It's all a matter of having consideration for others, and showing the originators of more serious threads a bit of respect, so they can explore their topic with like minded people.

Thats just it Rob, people do seem to be afraid to express an opinion that differs from another. When you do that on here, there are those who had no input into a debate other than "dont start fighting agin" to add to the topic..jesus it gets so frustrating when it happens time and time again by the same bloody people..all it does it start that crap all over again

Well to me a thread is like a group conversation. You got to remember some of the folks have known each other longer so, they do read each other and say hi in the middle. It does not mean that they think that your thread is less important or not worth responding to. And yes they say hugs to you, kisses to you... but it is what it is.
And that is a place where people can say what they are feeling at the moment.

Hi Turkish,

IMO It is the advantage and disadvantage of communicating in this way.

While CS may have it figured out... members don´t seem to adhere to that concept very well. I have had so many instances of posting and being completely invisible because the thread had been hijacked and turned into a chat... and I just think... why did I bother...

Hi Jan
I have been on the site now for over 2 years and took nearly a year off from it. There is a difference though in the past few months. Some fantastic threads were created,debated and the conversation flowed, as Ibiz stated above, the "tea and biscuits brigade" drop in, no matter the topic and say to each other,completely disregarding what is going on around them

Just gets bloody frustrating when the is flowing, blood is boiling and opinions are being expressed kiled stone dead with the banality ( dont shoot me Rob..my spell check is not working )

Hi Turkish,

so whats up?

That or in the middle of a healthy debate, you start getting one line insults and personal attacks that don´t address the topic or the information.... I think that gets me more then the "love you´s"... I like a good debate and when people can counter what I say with information or a well thought out opinion, I love that, it gives me a chance to learn something... and either change my views or better prepare myself for the next debate...

I understand where you are coming from

But do you not think that with all the other services such as those which Ginger has spoken about ( IM, chat etc) is a better place for it than in the middle of a flowing conversation
From my perspective, if I am honest, it is just plain selfish and egotistical to say the least. They are only considering themselves and how much they get feedback for their comments, slapping each other on the back mentality than alientates others

I have found the same thing over and over again, to the extent where I rarely post at all now.

I have noticed you post less too and I used to look forward to your posts because they were often informative and witty.

Sometimes it is cultural differences, youth, or people who are not used to the internet, ( at least I excuse them that way), but mostly I find it is the ignorant and the great unwashed who just have to get attention, even if it is bad attention in a thread.

Their lack of manners and values and consideration never fails to astound me.