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Jan1305 Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain
Ambrose2007: Well, I think feeling exactly the same way all the time would be rather absurd, and not an ideal at all. Different emotions seem entirely appropriate - if not inescapably attached - to different circumstances. Would you truly not wish to experience the special joy of (say) a wonderful lovemaking session, a hike to the top of a gorgeous mountain, or an exhilarating ski run - as opposed to the emotions generated by being stuck in traffic, dragging yourself out of bed Monday morning, or enduring the death of a close friend?

Stability cannot sensibly refer to a "monotonal" emotional state - that would be the province of zombies.


Well of course, I agree with this, we all have surges of emotional instability when we encounter such things. This is positive instability and to be rejoiced, except of course the sad facts of life we all have to meet eventually like bereavement. However, my previous post, when referring to instability, does not mean the same thing at all.

I was talking about the instability which arises from extreme, negative trauma and addictions (alcohol, drugs etc). These things do not have the temporary high associated with the things you mention, but often a severe character change/moods which prevents any long-term, successful interraction with another.

And sorry to say, but there is without doubt a large proportion of membership here in this boat, suffering this type of emotional instability.

Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
Sommerauer71: It is dramatic yes and a feeling that we become addicted to.

I have learnt from the negatives from my marriage and my last long relationship, because it was something that I knew I had played my part in.

Which takes me back to acceptance, accepting that any relationship is not usually the fault of one party, it takes two to make a relationship work and two to make one fail.

My ex husband left me for woman ten years younger than me, I could have sat in that misery for years, emotional stability and intelligence made me face up to the part I played in that break up and it did, it was not all of his fault, he ran to another for comfort and I stayed alone. Because I knew I had to, to recover. I did. But I hold no issue with him and his partner now, we are quite the nuclear family with us all getting along nicely.

That is emotional stability, acceptance. Being tooled enough to know that we can and will recover. The negatives are there when it goes wrong, but we need to feel the negatives to learn and recover.


Right - and I've always been amazed by - and admire you for - that accomplishment. Few people can pull that off (my love, gg, is one of them).

JB made an excellent point on another thread a day or so ago about the addictive side of the "love drama." Drama in general creates entertainment, excitement, and often a feeling of powerful bonding. That's the plus (potentially addictive) side. It can be hard to see the excitement in a relationship diminishing, so there can be a temptation to artificially maintain it through unhealthy or unnatural machinations.

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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Ambrose2007: Right - and I've always been amazed by - and admire you for - that accomplishment. Few people can pull that off (my love, gg, is one of them).

JB made an excellent point on another thread a day or so ago about the addictive side of the "love drama." Drama in general creates entertainment, excitement, and often a feeling of powerful bonding. That's the plus (potentially addictive) side. It can be hard to see the excitement in a relationship diminishing, so there can be a temptation to artificially maintain it through unhealthy or unnatural machinations.


I agree with JB, love is a drama in itself, we do become addicted to these feelings, especially at first, and yes, when a relationship begins to diminish then it is hard, but then it depends on how the people involved deal with it, if I felt my relationship was diminishing and he was losing interest, then I would ask him.

Wild horses will not make a person be with me if he does not want to be and I would be foolish to think otherwise. However much it hurts me.

And GG, is a lucky woman.

gingerb Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Well, I think feeling exactly the same way all the time would be rather absurd, and not an ideal at all. Different emotions seem entirely appropriate - if not inescapably attached - to different circumstances. Would you truly not wish to experience the special joy of (say) a wonderful lovemaking session, a hike to the top of a gorgeous mountain, or an exhilarating ski run - as opposed to the emotions generated by being stuck in traffic, dragging yourself out of bed Monday morning, or enduring the death of a close friend?

Stability cannot sensibly refer to a "monotonal" emotional state - that would be the province of zombies.[/quote]

I would agree very much with what you are saying here, but would go further, and say that mental and emotional instability is an inability to express appropriate emotions consistant with the occasion.

For instance it would be showing instability in our emotional expression to smile if you were angry or being beaten or tortured, just as it would be wrong to not be able to express a feeling of joy with a whoop or laugh or shout or scream.

Many of the natural responses that small children have are actually appropriate responses emotionally to various situations, and many people spend most of their parental lives, taming down or eradicating these emotional responses in them, to socialise them, something I believe is wrong and screws people up in later life.

Many of the successful methods used to correct mental instability and emotional instability in adults, is to make them scream and cry and shout and do ridiculous things that make them laugh. They are also taught to re-live painful memories and express the appropriate responses in order to get better, even if what they express appears extreme.

I think that if one needs to shout, or dance around the kitchen, or scream, or beat hell out of a set of drums, cry, laugh or whatever the feeling inside you dictates, then it is appropriate to do it at that time, in keeping with what your holistic self needs to stay emotionally healthy.

gingerb Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Ambrose2007: "Well, I think feeling exactly the same way all the time would be rather absurd, and not an ideal at all. Different emotions seem entirely appropriate - if not inescapably attached - to different circumstances. Would you truly not wish to experience the special joy of (say) a wonderful lovemaking session, a hike to the top of a gorgeous mountain, or an exhilarating ski run - as opposed to the emotions generated by being stuck in traffic, dragging yourself out of bed Monday morning, or enduring the death of a close friend?

Stability cannot sensibly refer to a "monotonal" emotional state - that would be the province of zombies"
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Sorry quotes from ambrose didn't work in the last one...

I would agree very much with what you are saying here, but would go further, and say that mental and emotional instability is an inability to express appropriate emotions consistant with the occasion.

For instance it would be showing instability in our emotional expression to smile if you were angry or being beaten or tortured, just as it would be wrong to not be able to express a feeling of joy with a whoop or laugh or shout or scream.

Many of the natural responses that small children have are actually appropriate responses emotionally to various situations, and many people spend most of their parental lives, taming down or eradicating these emotional responses in them, to socialise them, something I believe is wrong and screws people up in later life.

Many of the successful methods used to correct mental instability and emotional instability in adults, is to make them scream and cry and shout and do ridiculous things that make them laugh. They are also taught to re-live painful memories and express the appropriate responses in order to get better, even if what they express appears extreme.

I think that if one needs to shout, or dance around the kitchen, or scream, or beat hell out of a set of drums, cry, laugh or whatever the feeling inside you dictates, then it is appropriate to do it at that time, in keeping with what your holistic self needs to stay emotionally healthy.
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
Sommerauer71: I agree with JB, love is a drama in itself, we do become addicted to these feelings, especially at first, and yes, when a relationship begins to diminish then it is hard, but then it depends on how the people involved deal with it, if I felt my relationship was diminishing and he was losing interest, then I would ask him.

Wild horses will not make a person be with me if he does not want to be and I would be foolish to think otherwise. However much it hurts me.

And GG, is a lucky woman.


She'll be happy to learn that. blushing laugh

Which raises an issue for another thread, methinks - the role of luck in relationships. When I consider the number of factors that had to fall into place in order to have even met her (one improbability: I didn't include faceless people in my searches - except that ONE time...and I found her), it's fairly mind-blowing.

I think the key thing about diminishing excitement (and that generally means "sexual excitement," the diminishment of which is probably nearly inevitable for most) is not to draw the inference that one is valuing the other person less. As I wrote elsewhere, the chemistry between individuals consists of many elements - sexual chemistry being only one of them. I think it's likely in an evolving healthy relationship that while sexual desire may wane a bit, other desires (chemistry elements) will increase/improve.
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
gingerb: Well, I think feeling exactly the same way all the time would be rather absurd, and not an ideal at all. Different emotions seem entirely appropriate - if not inescapably attached - to different circumstances. Would you truly not wish to experience the special joy of (say) a wonderful lovemaking session, a hike to the top of a gorgeous mountain, or an exhilarating ski run - as opposed to the emotions generated by being stuck in traffic, dragging yourself out of bed Monday morning, or enduring the death of a close friend?

Stability cannot sensibly refer to a "monotonal" emotional state - that would be the province of zombies.

I would agree very much with what you are saying here, but would go further, and say that mental and emotional instability is an inability to express appropriate emotions consistant with the occasion.

For instance it would be showing instability in our emotional expression to smile if you were angry or being beaten or tortured, just as it would be wrong to not be able to express a feeling of joy with a whoop or laugh or shout or scream.

Many of the natural responses that small children have are actually appropriate responses emotionally to various situations, and many people spend most of their parental lives, taming down or eradicating these emotional responses in them, to socialise them, something I believe is wrong and screws people up in later life.

Many of the successful methods used to correct mental instability and emotional instability in adults, is to make them scream and cry and shout and do ridiculous things that make them laugh. They are also taught to re-live painful memories and express the appropriate responses in order to get better, even if what they express appears extreme.

I think that if one needs to shout, or dance around the kitchen, or scream, or beat hell out of a set of drums, cry, laugh or whatever the feeling inside you dictates, then it is appropriate to do it at that time, in keeping with what your holistic self needs to stay emotionally healthy.


Yes, Ginger, that's what I was getting at. Different emotional states are appropriate for different circumstances. Thanks for spelling it out so well.head banger hug
maybesoon brisbane, Queensland Australia
X_REBEL: yes i agree...for some it's a good thing and it works for them. And i never claimed to be fully imune against it...i'm just at a level where most people are not...and i resolve all my issues myself...and it works for me and i'm content with that. I'm not closed for new viewpoints too resolve issues...and i'm not saying this outa arrrogance...


i totally agree with you 100%, noone else is going to resolve your problems, and we are pen to new viewpoints too resolve issues!!!

We are not invisible, even tho we think we are!!!

head banger
maybesoon brisbane, Queensland Australia
gingerb: Sorry quotes from ambrose didn't work in the last one...

I would agree very much with what you are saying here, but would go further, and say that mental and emotional instability is an inability to express appropriate emotions consistant with the occasion.

For instance it would be showing instability in our emotional expression to smile if you were angry or being beaten or tortured, just as it would be wrong to not be able to express a feeling of joy with a whoop or laugh or shout or scream.

Many of the natural responses that small children have are actually appropriate responses emotionally to various situations, and many people spend most of their parental lives, taming down or eradicating these emotional responses in them, to socialise them, something I believe is wrong and screws people up in later life.
Many of the successful methods used to correct mental instability and emotional instability in adults, is to make them scream and cry and shout and do ridiculous things that make them laugh. They are also taught to re-live painful memories and express the appropriate responses in order to get better, even if what they express appears extreme.

I think that if one needs to shout, or dance around the kitchen, or scream, or beat hell out of a set of drums, cry, laugh or whatever the feeling inside you dictates, then it is appropriate to do it at that time, in keeping with what your holistic self needs to stay emotionally healthy.


this is so true, i have a 5 yr old son, who i bring up to allow him to experience what he feels in emotions, I as a dad, would never interfer with his learning experiences in life, and I would never correct him into thinking, what he is feeling, is wrong... only time, i get involved with his feeling, is when he has a bad dream, explaining it is only a dream in the mind, thats its alright...free thinking for a child is pureness, its inoncent, we can learn so much from it, and this way of thinking helps him in later life, as he knows how to be independant...angel
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Big_John: Hell if I was emotionally stable I wouldn't be on this web site.

My friends and family thinks I nuts!!!


Yeah, sometimes i wonder if you guys really existrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sommerauer71: Hi Kitten..

As a matter of interest, what is drama?


Kitten got scared!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Jan is trully back home, relaxed...what is that sexy picture for?laugh wink
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
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druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Sommerauer71: Would you describe yourselves as emotionally stable? I see alot of these threads asking for confirmation that the people are attractive, or threads stating that they are down, threads that ask why places like this do not work.

Do potential partners prefer a person who is emotionally stable?

I see so many people who are alone and clearly want to meet a person, yet they seem to find it impossible to meet a person. And I would describe them as completely emotionally intelligent and stable. From their words alone. I am musing today, and thought I would ask you lot, your thoughts.


I don't think anyone is completely emotionally stable...it's an oxymoron in my books. Emotions are not logical, and certainly not scientific. They are, by nature, volatile and unstable. So...how ruled by your emotions are you would be more the question to me.

I used to be very ruled by my emotions. I didn't even try to control them. I still have moments when they get out of control, but for the most part I can keep them harnessed and think things out, or listen to what another has to say before I react emotionally. Not always, though. Not even on here. There are those who can attest to my extremely emotional reaction on here the day after elections in the US. laugh Or, to Crotty P when I first joined. doh

For the most part, though, I'm the person you see on here. I don't lose it in person any more than I do here...unless I'm on a roller coaster emotionally, as I was recently. Then, you may or may not see it on here, but my private emails will reflect it. And even then, I'm relatively calm.

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jvaski south lake tahoe, California USA
Sommerauer71: Would you describe yourselves as emotionally stable? I see alot of these threads asking for confirmation that the people are attractive, or threads stating that they are down, threads that ask why places like this do not work.

Do potential partners prefer a person who is emotionally stable?

I see so many people who are alone and clearly want to meet a person, yet they seem to find it impossible to meet a person. And I would describe them as completely emotionally intelligent and stable. From their words alone. I am musing today, and thought I would ask you lot, your thoughts.


I would be alot more emeotionally stable after having some of my prescious fluids relieved .......... in fact - downright easy going and agreeable to almost anyhting ........laugh



Shirley49WV Mason Co, West Virginia USA
I am emotionally stable for today but hell who knows what tomorrow will bring?
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Shirley49WV: I am emotionally stable for today but hell who knows what tomorrow will bring?


Shirley, that's wonderfulwine

Hey Yo Drulips
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
jvaski: I would be alot more emeotionally stable after having some of my prescious fluids relieved .......... in fact - downright easy going and agreeable to almost anyhting ........


fluidsthumbs up



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
I'm a basket case camouflaged as a well-balanced individual....I hide it so well, that I have forgotten all about it myself...


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druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
jvaski: I would be alot more emeotionally stable after having some of my prescious fluids relieved .......... in fact - downright easy going and agreeable to almost anyhting ........


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Funny...I feel that if someone got mine flowing I'd feel downright easy going and agreeable. rolling on the floor laughing

Yo, Chris, too! Good to see you, girl! lips

wave everyone!

Sommer...excellent thread! thumbs up hug




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