Gaza !! Israel kills civilians ,, among international silence .. What do you think ? share !

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leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
the choice of creating Israel seemed to be an option at that time , after Europe was in ruins , the English had left the area and there was already a zionist movement going on for decades .As in any war countries around the world have a intake of refugees , that is a fact you have to deal with .
In my opinion people should learn to think differently and stop digging in the past , because there is no country that has not done the wrong things and decisions. It is negative thinking . That is why I think that people should stop just thinking about themselves and claiming land , what is selfish .
If you really love the world and want peace , you should think without borders . The way you think
certainly doesn't bring peace , does it? Do you have a solution?
I do not believe in a god , anyway , if there was a god , then Hitler was also created by him , god is the good and the bad . Can't you see that it are the religious people that create war all the time with their borders.
People make mistakes all the time , and we have to try to learn from them , so you can say that the creation of Israel was a mistake and people should have done differently , but it's done , so stop winching about the past , look now and ahead, stop sowing hate . you can' shuffle around with people can you ? Everybody in America should go back to their origin .The creation of America was a great shame , see what I mean !! do not look back and move on . Have a new thinking , everybody should be welcome anywhere in whole the world , that is what we want to achieve , don't we , a peaceful free world.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
nora83: well ! i wonder why do you post as long as this thread is out of your concern Sir ? you dont like it , dont check it , very easy !!




Shhhhh! I'm counting!....uh!......four!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing





You guys are so easy to set up!rolling on the floor laughing
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Antjo39: Probably not now... but later it will be possible for Palestinians to organise something in all the countries they have an representative. Yesterday the representative of Palestine showed a huge list of critical medicines for people who have suffered wounds from the forbidden weapons that the Israel army has been using. He said that nnow they have not implemented anything to promote public help due to the problems you have mentioned.
If you know something, let everybody know.

I mean the Palestine representative in Peru, during an interview in TV.
Sparky55 Kabul Afghanistan
leolove1: nora , I do understand that this is a painful moment for you , but war is war and that is nature ,if you believe in a god , then god want this to be happening. What did the Palestinians try to achieve with their rockets? wasn't it a reaction from Israel ? wel , they got it now .It is misleading to point a finger at Israel and only see what they do . Try to see the whole picture , what did the Palestinians do? It is too late now, Now the nature goes its way and you have to wait and see the outcome after this rage is over . In nature there are 4 solutions .
1 : chase the opponent out of your territory
2 :(if nr. 1 is not possible ) accept the situation and live together in harmony
3:(if nr2 is not possible) go away and start a new life somewhere else
4 :(if nr3 is not possible) fight till one of opponents is killed

so you have to accept what is going on , it is nature , gods will and the choice of the people involved itself. what can we do ? nothing ! The world tried to achieve peace and many efforts have been done , this is a choice from the people themselves , so what can you do ? These people are full of hate and hate will kill you in the end. Try to stay objective , please. A huge part of the Jews are born in Israel and it is their land to , they have no country to go back to , you have to understand, so it is not realistic to move them out , it is not even an option


Must be one of the most fair post on any of these threads. Very well stated.



nora83 Amman Jordan
rocketqueen: forgot to say mornin everyone.........i didnt get to see the last threads of the last forum....can anyone help me out?


you can check it by going to the whole forum page , and seach for Part II of the forum . it was blocked once again bcz of the capacity



patrickthomas Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
rocketqueen: oh sorry just gunna check it..................anyway if you type in israel youth december 18th it should come up with some interesting stuff for your viewing


I do read a lot about it and very well know that all Jews do not suppourt what is happening.

Menachem Begin, back in 1948 when he visited the United States, a group of prominent Jewish intellectuals including Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook and Hannah Arendt wrote a letter to the New York Times warning that Begin was a former leader of the "Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." The letter urged Jews to shun Begin, arguing, "It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."

Begin’s new party was then participating in the Israeli election, and Einstein and his colleagues, many of whom like the physicist had been victims of German fascism, stated, "Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character.
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
RillyNiceGuy: Shhhhh! I'm counting!....uh!......four! You guys are so easy to set up!


Hey Rilly, I know you had a clash with Cosmic yesterday, so that is something between you and him.
If you want to provoke other people then I would not mind to get you banned and get myself banned through a bad argument.
If your family were affected by a tragedy you would react badly to someone coming up with such stuff as yours.

Give honor to your name "Really Nice Guy"

Respectfully.



patrickthomas Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
Antjo39: Hey Rilly, I know you had a clash with Cosmic yesterday, so that is something between you and him.
If you want to provoke other people then I would not mind to get you banned and get myself banned through a bad argument.
If your family were affected by a tragedy you would react badly to someone coming up with such stuff as yours.

Give honor to your name "Really Nice Guy"

Respectfully.


Well saidthumbs up
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
leolove1: the choice of creating Israel seemed to be an option at that time , after Europe was in ruins , the English had left the area and there was already a zionist movement going on for decades .As in any war countries around the world have a intake of refugees , that is a fact you have to deal with .
In my opinion people should learn to think differently and stop digging in the past , because there is no country that has not done the wrong things and decisions. It is negative thinking . That is why I think that people should stop just thinking about themselves and claiming land , what is selfish .
If you really love the world and want peace , you should think without borders . The way you think
certainly doesn't bring peace , does it? Do you have a solution?
I do not believe in a god , anyway , if there was a god , then Hitler was also created by him , god is the good and the bad . Can't you see that it are the religious people that create war all the time with their borders.
People make mistakes all the time , and we have to try to learn from them , so you can say that the creation of Israel was a mistake and people should have done differently , but it's done , so stop winching about the past , look now and ahead, stop sowing hate . you can' shuffle around with people can you ? Everybody in America should go back to their origin .The creation of America was a great shame , see what I mean !! do not look back and move on . Have a new thinking , everybody should be welcome anywhere in whole the world , that is what we want to achieve , don't we , a peaceful free world.


Peaceful free world?
Go and say that to those big guys that organise world... go and say that to the profiters of an economic system that has to do wars inorder to have a boost.

However good intentions you have Leo. You are just talking about dreams that deny the real causes of trouble. I better listen to a song of stupid John Lennon..
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
I was just playin!

I'm getting as much accomplished as ya'll are. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing



nora83 Amman Jordan
Antjo39: Probably not now... but later it will be possible for Palestinians to organise something in all the countries they have an representative. Yesterday the representative of Palestine showed a huge list of critical medicines for people who have suffered wounds from the forbidden weapons that the Israel army has been using. He said that nnow they have not implemented anything to promote public help due to the problems you have mentioned.
If you know something, let everybody know.



thanks alot again my brother, we will be looking for some info soon about any way in which we can start sending the helping stuff to the Palestinians . suffering the Brutal israeli acts .

thank you again



nora83 Amman Jordan
Antjo39: Probably not now... but later it will be possible for Palestinians to organise something in all the countries they have an representative. Yesterday the representative of Palestine showed a huge list of critical medicines for people who have suffered wounds from the forbidden weapons that the Israel army has been using. He said that nnow they have not implemented anything to promote public help due to the problems you have mentioned.
If you know something, let everybody know.



thanks alot again my brother, we will be looking for some info soon about any way in which we can start sending the helping stuff to the Palestinians . suffering the Brutal israeli acts .

thank you again
Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Antjo39: Peaceful free world?
Go and say that to those big guys that organise world... go and say that to the profiters of an economic system that has to do wars inorder to have a boost.

However good intentions you have Leo. You are just talking about dreams that deny the real causes of trouble. I better listen to a song of stupid John Lennon..


I meant:

organise wars



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
nora83: well ! i wonder why do you post as long as this thread is out of your concern Sir ? you dont like it , dont check it , very easy !!


i'm sure some people get on this forum to just annoy those ofnus who are trying to solve the problem...............so i will say this...................PISS OFF if you just want to annoy us..........we have far much more important things to be doing than replying to your annoyance

leolove1 The Hague, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
sambhava: Very well said! You are absolutely right. But surely you still have to admit that those jews ARE an arrogant bunch, whereas the Palestinians are not...
yes , I've had many bad experiences with them, they have dirty tricks , that is what you get if you are religious and think that your religion is the only right one
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
I will let ya'll alone now! I had my fun and I didn't even hate nobody!



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
nora83: you can check it by going to the whole forum page , and seach for Part II of the forum . it was blocked once again bcz of the capacity




thanks dollteddybear



nora83 Amman Jordan
patrickthomas: I do read a lot about it and very well know that all Jews do not suppourt what is happening.

Menachem Begin, back in 1948 when he visited the United States, a group of prominent Jewish intellectuals including Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook and Hannah Arendt wrote a letter to the New York Times warning that Begin was a former leader of the "Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." The letter urged Jews to shun Begin, arguing, "It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."

Begin’s new party was then participating in the Israeli election, and Einstein and his colleagues, many of whom like the physicist had been victims of German fascism, stated, "Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character.



thats true , we need to admit that there are some Jews all over the world who are not supporting the brutal israelis acts in Palestine .



linarl Boston, Massachusetts USA
Sparky55: Must be one of the most fair post on any of these threads. Very well stated.


No it is not. it is very disrespectful to Nora and what she and her family had to go through. If you or Mr. Leolove were affected like Palestinian did then maybe the words of Leolove would sound disrespectful to you. As you cannot relate then I am simply saying: I disagree with you.



patrickthomas Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
leolove1: yes , I've had many bad experiences with them, they have dirty tricks , that is what you get if you are religious and think that your religion is the only right one


And th word religion could be substutided with politic, lifestyle, ethics, whatever suits those that feel that they have "the answers"




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