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Big_John: I agree with this. I communicated very well with some ladies and then when we met they were really quite different. You need this first meeting as soon as you believe the connection is being made. JMO

lanabyte: Wait for most men to make up their minds on anything besides beer, sex, or sports, and you'll be waiting forever.

Tater: Men have their minds made up after the first two or three dates, if they want to date you or not, so if they seems hesitant...... beware... they are either only wanting sex from time to time, have you on the side because they are dating someone else, or are trying to let you down easy, because in alot of those cases you did have sex with them by the second date....and they don't want to date you but don't want to seem like a total dick either...Or they have emotional problems.... JMO

lanabyte: Wait for most men to make up their minds on anything besides beer, sex, or sports, and you'll be waiting forever.

Sommerauer71: Buzzy, I love your bluntness, but Tain is a smart woman, don't you think after two years, she would know, I would know after a week if a person was married.

I have been married, I would know.

Sommerauer71: Perfect, two months was long enough for me, and him.

We got it right, and the travel bit is easy, not so easy going home, but once there, then the next plans come in...

Tater: Men have their minds made up after the first two or three dates, if they want to date you or not, so if they seems hesitant...... beware... they are either only wanting sex from time to time, have you on the side because they are dating someone else, or are trying to let you down easy, because in alot of those cases you did have sex with them by the second date....and they don't want to date you but don't want to seem like a total dick either...Or they have emotional problems.... JMO

tainogirl: Thanks for the vote of confidence Sommer While all the plans were being made about where we would go and what we would do I think he had an image and a script in his mind as to how it would all go. But I know life does not always work to a script and he wanted me to make sure that things went to his perfect script, I had a more laid back approach, one that would take the pressure off us both and that was to just to relax and take things as they come, that way we would not have the stress of too many expectations to get in the way of getting to know each other. Guess I didn't provide enough script material Anyway he's been divorced for some time and had shared custody of his kid.

Sommerauer71: Yep, am right there with you, I cannot bear the nedless calls, emails and all of that when you want to meet, just do it.

I did. I gave him a date, with three weeks notice, told him I have to book flights and stuff, you want it or not?

He did, he took and I went.

Sometimes us wimmen have to take the lead.

I would offer him a date, that is convinient for you and then he can sort his own diary out and decide what is good for him.

Just lay it out there, if he wants to meet you, he will.

Big_John: I found you invest yourself and your heart and all of a sudden you meet and the person is so totally different than you thought they would be. All the electronic stuff doesn't do what just one face-to-face meeting can do. We talked alot about love at first sight, but I know we can make up our minds pretty quickly when we see someone if the attraction and chemistry is there or it isn't.

Sommerauer71: I see what you are saying Ship, but for the first meeting, then I do not want to wait much longer than that, especially when the contact has been of an intense nature, as ours was, two months was enough for me, to wait and once we had met, we knew we wanted to again. And again.

So for us, that two month contact was enough, we were lucky, I was able to travel, he would not have been because of his commitments in his homeland.

So, I can see where you are coming from, but what is right for one member of the twosome may not be for the other, and that can pose a problem, and we girls like to plan, especially when it involves travelling through countries.

I think we have to be able to have some plans and time limits, or nobidy would ever meet.

I have to get on two planes and enter two countries to go see m man, for now, that involves, timing and planning, I cannot ust jump in my car and pop and see him.

So I needed to know, now I can just book and rock up when I feel like it.

Ambrose2007: Sheesh. You make me feel like a Johnny Come Lately, S. I didn't meet GG until after 5 months.

Sommerauer71: I am not sure about this Tain, for some reason it seems that he wants it all his way.

I will, however, give him the benefit of the doubt, simply because you are smart and it is hard to bring it all to words about him and why you have lasted for so long without a meeting.

I could not have done that, I have make friends here that I would love to meet and have been friends for well over a year here, but I need something more than this. And I got that bandit PPV, for my bloody sins.

We can all sit and wait where life takes us, but sometimes you got to grab it and shake it and make it sit up and have something to hold onto, not just 'lets wait and see'

Two years is a very long time, I could not do it, I repeat again, I was beginning to get irritated after a month.

I think you should lay it down flat now, tell him, you want a meeting or you are cutting it.

Let him think about it, leave him be and see what his reaction is.

pretzelman: But, again, I feel that when the time is right to make a move...make it. This move means moving on, and it is well past time!!

Sommerauer71: I am an impatient woman, Jeff.

Each to their own.

I cajoled, laid my cards out and said, come and get me cowboy or lose me forever.

Would not always work for some, but it did for him.

tainogirl: I am glad to see that some men have the backbone to go for it and you got your man summer I don't usually get this way but something happened on the way to drop my kid of at daycare that got me thinking about how we waste precious moments of time in indecision instead of sometimes just going for it.

This morning I witnessed a horrible accident on the same bus route I cross everyday with my kid. A guy got knocked down by a goverment official's car then run over by a bus. I had to pass this awful site to get to the daycare. As I saw this guy lying there I thought about how fleeting time can be. He won't have another minute to turn and hug and kiss someone and tell them he loved them and we the living sometimes make a mockery of this precious thing we call time. I say if you think you found something good you should go for it and take a chance and not waste a minute of the happiness you've found.