All Emails sent to be stored - EU Directive - WHAT!

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IndeLady Ventnor IOW, Hampshire, England UK
I'm sitting here happily working on my PC with Capital Radio in the background - and I pick up work related words, namely "email" and "EU directive" so I listen up. Now I'm not sure if it's a hoax but apparently some bureaucrat is pushing for a new law that will make all IP's responsible for storing a copy of any emails sent through their servers. Errrr the thought of the amount of storage space that would take up makes you're mind boggle but imagine the impact on users of online dating sites. The idea of someone having copies of messages I might send to someone I'm flirting with is a bit of a cold shower to say the least. Having said that I can see arguements for and against - It would be interesting to hear from others who might have heard the same snipit and what they think about it.



dcj22 Somewhere, South Dakota USA
I want the job of reading the emails from here. Better than porn! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
livinglarge in a good place , Kildare Ireland
IndeLady: I'm sitting here happily working on my PC with Capital Radio in the background - and I pick up work related words, namely "email" and "EU directive" so I listen up. Now I'm not sure if it's a hoax but apparently some bureaucrat is pushing for a new law that will make all IP's responsible for storing a copy of any emails sent through their servers. Errrr the thought of the amount of storage space that would take up makes you're mind boggle but imagine the impact on users of online dating sites. The idea of someone having copies of messages I might send to someone I'm flirting with is a bit of a cold shower to say the least. Having said that I can see arguements for and against - It would be interesting to hear from others who might have heard the same snipit and what they think about it.


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yikes Orwellian uh oh



solitare Munchen, Bayern Germany
Orwellian...you're absolutely right! You win! You said the 'Magic Word'!laugh (parody of an old Quiz Show tag line)
This was proposed over a year ago in regarards to 'security measures' requested by various 'Intelligence' agencies to better our lives and security from those proverbial 'enemas of the State' and no, they didn't mean themselves...laugh
woody636 Elgin, Illinois USA
IndeLady: I'm sitting here happily working on my PC with Capital Radio in the background - and I pick up work related words, namely "email" and "EU directive" so I listen up. Now I'm not sure if it's a hoax but apparently some bureaucrat is pushing for a new law that will make all IP's responsible for storing a copy of any emails sent through their servers. Errrr the thought of the amount of storage space that would take up makes you're mind boggle but imagine the impact on users of online dating sites. The idea of someone having copies of messages I might send to someone I'm flirting with is a bit of a cold shower to say the least. Having said that I can see arguements for and against - It would be interesting to hear from others who might have heard the same snipit and what they think about it.


Had to happen sooner or later. They were scanning email here in the states for quite a while before we even found out. P'd off when I first learned about it, but then after thinking some it really didn't bother me. The way I understand it, they scan for certain key words that red flag the message for closer inspection. Some of what I write might be embarrasing to me or another but if by doing so they can avert just one attack or save one life, decided I could live with it. Only thing that really bothers me is the possibility that the info could be used for the wrong reasons. Jmo.



IndeLady Ventnor IOW, Hampshire, England UK
dcj22: I want the job of reading the emails from here. Better than porn!


blushing You're not reading mine!
pubwrite08 District Heights, Maryland USA
dcj22: I want the job of reading the emails from here. Better than porn!
Wow... I am thinking about an e-mail I just sent somebody.blushing



IndeLady Ventnor IOW, Hampshire, England UK
woody636: Only thing that really bothers me is the possibility that the info could be used for the wrong reasons. Jmo.


Yes - the reasons, ummm - okay for national/international security purposes I agree - but can you imagine the panic if it can be used for public domain access, such as a husband or wife demanding all email generated by their spouse as evidence for divorce reasons!
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
woody636: Had to happen sooner or later. They were scanning email here in the states for quite a while before we even found out. P'd off when I first learned about it, but then after thinking some it really didn't bother me. The way I understand it, they scan for certain key words that red flag the message for closer inspection. Some of what I write might be embarrasing to me or another but if by doing so they can avert just one attack or save one life, decided I could live with it. Only thing that really bothers me is the possibility that the info could be used for the wrong reasons. Jmo.


And that, Woody, is the source of the problem. Private emails are just that...PRIVATE. I should not have to censor what I say to someone I'm dating when I'm emailing privately with them. I don't care that my posts on here are public, but the day my emails become public and stored on my IP server is the day I go offline. Period. Except for business and school, that is.

Big Brother has no right to watch us. cool
livinglarge in a good place , Kildare Ireland
solitare: Orwellian...you're absolutely right! You win! You said the 'Magic Word'! (parody of an old Quiz Show tag line)
This was proposed over a year ago in regarards to 'security measures' requested by various 'Intelligence' agencies to better our lives and security from those proverbial 'enemas of the State' and no, they didn't mean themselves...



well if the state tells me their secrets ,

I will tell the state mine snooty sick



they know enough already thumbs up

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IndeLady Ventnor IOW, Hampshire, England UK
druidess6308: And that, Woody, is the source of the problem. Private emails are just that...PRIVATE. I should not have to censor what I say to someone I'm dating when I'm emailing privately with them. I don't care that my posts on here are public, but the day my emails become public and stored on my IP server is the day I go offline. Period. Except for business and school, that is.

Big Brother has no right to watch us.


I'm 100% behind you on this - I'd do the same - I wonder if it would mean that all of us on this site would have to stop swapping email addresses and use the email through the site instead? Or do you think big brother would want to monitor that too?
livinglarge in a good place , Kildare Ireland
pubwrite08: Wow... I am thinking about an e-mail I just sent somebody.


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Beethovenfan West County St. Louis , Missouri USA
druidess6308: And that, Woody, is the source of the problem. Private emails are just that...PRIVATE. I should not have to censor what I say to someone I'm dating when I'm emailing privately with them. I don't care that my posts on here are public, but the day my emails become public and stored on my IP server is the day I go offline. Period. Except for business and school, that is.

Big Brother has no right to watch us.
My brother use to say, what ever you say on the computer, is always be read by someone... Be careful what you say, he once mentioned, nothing is safe anymore.......hummmmmmdunno



dcj22 Somewhere, South Dakota USA
IndeLady: You're not reading mine!



See, Indelady and Wendy! I was right!! laugh



dcj22 Somewhere, South Dakota USA
dcj22: See, Indelady and Wendy! I was right!!



And I know what I've sent and received. wow laugh
gingerb Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
IndeLady: Yes - the reasons, ummm - okay for national/international security purposes I agree - but can you imagine the panic if it can be used for public domain access, such as a husband or wife demanding all email generated by their spouse as evidence for divorce reasons!


Think back to Monica Lewinsky and how easy it was to get her mails off the server for evidence..........or any number of other people you hear about on the news or real crime programs...

That was then... It's worse now...

My son makes and runs servers for his buisiness clients. He has to keep everything that goes through them for years, as evidence of fraud or misconduct for future court cases.

This is nothing new. He has been doing this for over 10 years now. What we write has always been open to investigation. They just avoided telling us until now.

Anyone who wants to know anything about any of us can get it online if they know where to look. They don't even need hacking abilities. We give away information all the time voluntarily.

Names, family members, friends, addresses, credit card details, travel information, pictures, preferences in lifestyles in chatrooms, mails, everything anyone wants to know about us basically...in places like this, Hi5, facebook, bebo etc...

It's all there on the servers for anyone who knows how to access it any time they want.......

For police or government purposes it's even easier. There is no limit to what they can access...


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druidess6308: And that, Woody, is the source of the problem. Private emails are just that...PRIVATE. I should not have to censor what I say to someone I'm dating when I'm emailing privately with them. I don't care that my posts on here are public, but the day my emails become public and stored on my IP server is the day I go offline. Period. Except for business and school, that is.

Big Brother has no right to watch us.


Erm, Geeeze all my, more risque emails to my guyblushing blushing blushing . . .

Sheesh we better go back to snail mail but I think they do the same there. . .

Mails between people planning a life together being someones dinner conversation fodder. . . oh uh, ugh . . . uh oh uh oh uh oh
frustrated frustrated frustrated uh oh uh oh uh oh
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
IndeLady: I'm 100% behind you on this - I'd do the same - I wonder if it would mean that all of us on this site would have to stop swapping email addresses and use the email through the site instead? Or do you think big brother would want to monitor that too?


Oh, I believe they'd monitor all of it, since it all goes through your IP server. I'd have one heck of an international phone bill, or start sending letters through the mail for the first time in my life. laugh

Shoot...email was the best thing that ever came along in my books! I could write letters, but for some reason could never get them into the mailbox with a stamp on them.

I even had trouble handing them to my SGT in the Army for him to mail. My best friend was PISSED when I came out of the Army with 17 letters for her, bound in a ribbon. laugh laugh laugh



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
It is an invasion of privacy. Period!. But this should be no surprise since the American president G.W. Bush started all the erosion of individual rights after 9-11. Other puppet governments follow his lead, when they can't think for themselves.




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