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romanticman4u: I have no disrespect for muslims I have a heap load of disrespect for terrorists, I know there are many many peace loving muslims. The statement was I hope the terrorists virgins turn out to be goats, don't put words into my mouth that I didn't speak.

kidatheart: Which terrorists? Speak please!

CheekySmiles: Here's to keeping the peace

RayfromUSA: That's exactly right.

And it's still in progress. The rank and file Hamas members are just dupes and serve as cannon fodder.

But the leadership has direct ties to Israel. Israel provides all the arms, including the worthless rockets that cannot be aimed with any precision.

Israeli agents provide the rockets, other Israeli agents (Hamas leadership) fire the rockets into Israeli occupied settlements (with almost no casualties or damage) and that serves as justification for the ongoing genocide.

Israel "retaliates" with massive attacks using all of their hi-tech and very deadly armaments. They target schools, refugee centers, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, ambulances, etc etc etc.

Their objective being to destroy the Palestinian infrastructure, render any hope of a Palestinian state impossible and making life so difficult that the remaining Palestinians can't raise families.

It can only be called genocide.

RayfromUSA: That's exactly right.



Israeli agents provide the rockets, other Israeli agents (Hamas leadership) fire the rockets into Israeli occupied settlements (with almost no casualties or damage) and that serves as justification for the ongoing genocide.

Israel "retaliates" with massive attacks using all of their hi-tech and very deadly armaments. They target schools, refugee centers, hospitals, police stations, fire stations, ambulances, etc etc etc.

Their objective being to destroy the Palestinian infrastructure, render any hope of a Palestinian state impossible and making life so difficult that the remaining Palestinians can't raise families.

It can only be called genocide.

pretzelman: you shoe your true colors!! Your distain for Muslims shines through. Since ALL Muslims, not only extremist, believe in the 42 virgins, your comment shows your disrespect for the Muslim religion.

BUT...that is your right. Go for it

Vido1: Sorry, but you lost me there - I cannot watch US TV here. But I heard also people talking about 72! Whatever you can manage!

But they love to die for that! How else will you explain the Mumbay Massaker?

In response to: I believe that Israeli society would fall apart if they had not a common enemy.

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Another point: I don't think Hamas members are such cowards as previously suggested.
Otherwise they would not take on an army like the Israeli one which heavily outnumbers and out guns them.

highfidelity: What do we know about the propaganda warfare - how important it is specially with nowadays politics and media ?

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And let me share this article from an Israeli writer and peace activist Uri Avnery with Gush Shalom." In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel."

"IN THIS WAR, as in any modern war, propaganda plays a major role. The disparity between the forces, between the Israeli army - with its airplanes, gunships, drones, warships, artillery and tanks - and the few thousand lightly armed Hamas fighters, is one to a thousand, perhaps one to a million. In the political arena the gap between them is even wider. But in the propaganda war, the gap is almost infinite.

Almost all the Western media initially repeated the official Israeli propaganda line. They almost entirely ignored the Palestinian side of the story, not to mention the daily demonstrations of the Israeli peace camp. The rationale of the Israeli government (“The state must defend its citizens against the Qassam rockets”) has been accepted as the whole truth. The view from the other side, that the Qassams are a retaliation for the siege that starves the one and a half million inhabitants of the Gaza Strip, was not mentioned at all.

Only when the horrible scenes from Gaza started to appear on Western TV screens, did world public opinion gradually begin to change.

True, Western and Israeli TV channels showed only a tiny fraction of the dreadful events that appear 24 hours every day on Aljazeera’s Arabic channel, but one picture of a dead baby in the arms of its terrified father is more powerful than a thousand elegantly constructed sentences from the Israeli army spokesman. And that is what is decisive, in the end.

War – every war – is the realm of lies. Whether called propaganda or psychological warfare, everybody accepts that it is right to lie for one’s country. Anyone who speaks the truth runs the risk of being branded a traitor.

The trouble is that propaganda is most convincing for the propagandist himself. And after you convince yourself that a lie is the truth and falsification reality, you can no longer make rational decisions.

An example of this process surrounds the most shocking atrocity of this war so far: the shelling of the UN Fakhura school in Jabaliya refugee camp.

Immediately after the incident became known throughout the world, the army “revealed” that Hamas fighters had been firing mortars from near the school entrance. As proof they released an aerial photo which indeed showed the school and the mortar. But within a short time the official army liar had to admit that the photo was more than a year old. In brief: a falsification.

Later the official liar claimed that “our soldiers were shot at from inside the school”. Barely a day passed before the army had to admit to UN personnel that that was a lie, too. Nobody had shot from inside the school, no Hamas fighters were inside the school, which was full of terrified refugees.

But the admission made hardly any difference anymore. By that time, the Israeli public was completely convinced that “they shot from inside the school”, and TV announcers stated this as a simple fact.

So it went with the other atrocities. Every baby metamorphosed, in the act of dying, into a Hamas terrorist. Every bombed mosque instantly became a Hamas base, every apartment building an arms cache, every school a terror command post, every civilian government building a “symbol of Hamas rule”. Thus the Israeli army retained its purity as the “most moral army in the world”.

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In response to: Only when the horrible scenes from Gaza started to appear on Western TV screens, did world public opinion gradually begin to change.