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Palestine is a land that has been occupied and emptied of its people. Its cultural and physical landmarks have been obliterated and replaced by tidy Hebrew signs. The history of a people was the first thing eradicated by the occupiers. The history of the indigenous people has been all but eradicated as though they never existed. And all this has been hailed by the world as a miraculous act of God. We must recognise that Israel's existence is not even a question of legality so much as it is an illegal fait accompli realised through the use of force while supported by the Western powers. The UN missions directed at Israel in attempting to correct its violations of have thus far been futile. In Hertzl's 'The Jewish State' the father of Zionism said: "We must investigate and take possession of the new Jewish country by means of every modern expedient." I guess I agree with Ehud Barak ( 3 June 1998) when he said, "If I were a Palestinian, I'd also join a terror group." I'd go a step further perhaps. Rather than throwing little stones in desperation, I'd hurdle a boulder. Hopefully, somewhere deep inside, every Jew of conscience knows that this was no war; that this was not God's restitution of the holy land to its rightful owners. We know that a human atrocity was and continues to be perpetuated against an innocent people who couldn't come up with the arms and money to defend themselves against the western powers bent upon their demise as a people. We cannot

Whitechiken

Whatever. Seems that after millenia persecution the Jews are as they are and facts on the ground are as they are. Innocent people terrorizing innocent people and innocent people retaliating against those innocent people.

I myself for some reason like the innocent people who don't lob rockets at innocent people and then run and hide using their innocent people as propaganda spin points.

The thing is what are these people supposto do? They are at Isreals mercy and Isreal doesnt seem to have mercy on the innocent people of palistine. These people have been starved for years and only thrown scraps to survive. What are they supposto do when another country comes in and bulldozes their homes kicks them out in the street. I would think there comes a breaking point in the human spirit. I think thats whats going on here. Im not agreeing with what hamas is doing I actually think they got the worlds attention now and need to stop because Ireal is creaming them. I understand there is nowhere to shoot the rockets but in the neighborhoods but they need to stop and lets see where this goes with talks. Thats all Im saying. I hate when innocent people get caught up in all this and thats goes for all sides. Put all the politicians on an island and let them have their own war and let us people live in peace.

disculpe por favor , es que el fuego viene de la tristeza que llena me corazon por lo que esta accuriendo en Palestina , no es personal , disculpe senor

please Cali , im saying the same thing again and again , we never meant to offend anyone ,

we have nothing against JEWS , we are against Zionists , thats it .

Y les sigo reportando....andale pues.....

Way to go girl!!

Whitechicken

You said it already......



If not talks, then terrorist attacks with this being the result.

It seems that every bit of Israel history offends you guys as you continue to block posts that talk about Israel crimes against humanity, posts that shed light over the violence and massacres committed by Israel against Palestinians. The news is everywhere so why to block it on this website? To those who say that this is a dating site. Well, there are threads that talk about Muslims against Hamas and equally there are threads like this one that talk about Jews against Zionists.

Instead of taking the cowardly approach of asking for those threads to be blocked, stand up to your convictions and defend your point of views. That is of course if you can defend what Zionists have been doing of continuous war crimes and massacres in Palestine since 1948.

The world has been protesting Israel's war on Gaza for the past three weeks. If Israel cared to listen to the international community, we would not be debating over this issue here and reminding ourselves and others of Israel's black history of violence.

For how many more decades Zionists can silence voices that remind the rest of us of Israel's massacres and demand the international world to intervene!!!The time has come to a point where the world think that enough is enough and it shows in expelling the Israeli ambassador from Venezuela and Bolivia and others.

Linarl

If they listened to the international community they would find themselves destroyed by an enemy that has no intention of living in peaceful co existence with them - ever. They know that and so, they protect their own without regard for world opinion. The only thing that can change that will move any resolution forward is the attitude of their enemy and a shift from terrorism to genuine honest negotiation based on their right to live there. Any rhetoric on how they are wrongly there, stole the land and such only adds to the problem as they are not about to leave under any circumstances and so, such clap trap only feeds actions that go nowhere.

Blocking leads nowhere, but that conflict is as old as the Pyramids, literary.

The time Israel have had a written border in our maps is very short and not the cause of the conflict, not at all.

I have very little insight in the actual Zionist message, all I know is that they want a country close to home, and home for them has always been there. True, thrown out by others from time to time, but they prevailed and they are back in place.

No, I don’t think we can choose sides here, blame one side and not mentioning the other.

Crime against humanity, it will need to be proven first. The story about the white phosphor is not a crime; it is used since decades and is commonly used to aim your fire right. If they use it that way, to actually target their enemy and not the civilians, well... who am I to complain, it is after all warfare. Cluster bombs… Israel did not sign the agreement in 2008 to not use them and by that they are not bound to anything.

Unconventional weapons… I would any day call a suicide bomber very unconventional, even if it looks like it is more than common in the area.

I think Israel’s reaction came as a shock, but looking at the discussions in Egypt, they had the timing right. Two out of 15 members at the council there do not want support the call for a summit, 13 does - a summit to make peace once and for all.

The continuous deadly bickering that have been going on from the terrorist groups were bound to create a reaction, I must say it looks like they wanted one too. There was a cease fire agreement and it was broken over and over again, apparently out of control for Hamas political branch (since I do not know if the cells are Hamas own or only affiliated other).

With Palestine having their own responsibility to control security in their state, Israel have waited pretty long to get these groups stopped. Now they said enough and shot back.

And what is the reason for these groups to continue the bickering? Well, for one thing - they want their land, too, of course. And should have it, by all means!

Who is to blame?

Not the civil families trying to get on with their lives on both sides but suffer casualties ever day, every week, every month and every year, and still they are whom both sides claim to protect and care for.

Yes, please, stop this war, but get down to business and straight things out, stop looking 4000 years back, try to look ahead for once. Please, pretty please, or a ceasefire now changes nothing.

There, ready. You can report me now, LaCali

Unconventional weapons… I would any day call a suicide bomber very unconventional, even if it looks like it is more than common in the area.
When you dont have bombs and airplanes and tanks and your family is killed and the only thing to fight back is with your life this is what some of them chose to do. Im not saying it is right but like I said before when you have nothing to else to lose, no hope, this is what the human spirit becomes and they feel they feel death is better then life. This is their only way to fight back. This is what I understand. These people are humans too. They have families and want to live in peace. If you really want to know how this Iraq war got so bad I URGE ALL OF YOU TO WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY "NO END IN SIGHT". You can get parts if you google the title. It is an excellent documentary and I gurantee it will open many peoples eyes as to why this was went the way it did.

Sorry for jumping from one war to another.

Wow, I did not know that the Israeli government keeping you informed this much. So you know that they would have been destroyed. Well, is not this just against what Israel is bragging about of having one of the most powerful army in the world. Yet they will be destroyed by Hamas

I think the resistance in Palestine is gaining more credibility if it is capable of destroying Israel as you mentioned above. On a second thought, I may have to agree that they are destroying the image of Israel superiority in many ways.

Well, if you put it this way then of course Hamas that can DESTROY Israel and kicks its butt out of Palestine any time Hamas wants should call for a ceasefire and should let Israel food supplies and medical staff to treat the few people who got hit by Hamas rockets. Very very funny!!!!

The Hamas Leaders in Syria are fighting to the last Hamas-Thug in Gaza,and the Hamas-Thugs are fighting to the last Palestinian Civilian in the Gazastrip!
Pretty insane to kick a 500 pound Gorilla in his Testicles,and expecting him not doing anything about it.
Completely insane and stupid,to repeat the Exercise and expecting a different Result.
Here you have your Hamas!

So now we moved to talking about leaders in Syria after Hamas in gaza!!!

Why are you calling them my Hamas?. How did you come to this conclusion. Did you call Israel by "Gorilla", I do not know how they would take it either.

It is funny that when a man cannot argue well he mentions testicles and any other male organs that he can spell Do I sense anger in your post or frustration? should I take it that you are in Israel now and got hit there by a Hamas rocket and it hurt?

Next time you send me a similar post, I will simply ignore it. It is not worth my time.

Try to argue with legitimate reasons not like Drewisky who is talking about Hamas destroying the Israeli army trying to draw more sympathy for the Zionists. The world is fed up of listening to the same song played over and over of Israel needs the help of the rest of the world or neighbors will erase Israel from earth. This lie got the world where it is right now in this mess by Israel over-arming itself to use it against civilians any time it wants.

Israel brought violence to the Middle East area and that is a historic fact. Israel does not want peace and that is another fact. If Israel wants peace it could have reached it by returning the occupied lands according to UN resolutions. It has a superior army as they like to chant over and over. Those who have more power/upper hand also have the means to achieve peace if they want to.

Stay cool and get some ice, you know!!!


Guys, I am off. Be well all and keep it cool..

Keep on kicking that 500 pound Gorilla in his Balls,see where it gets,anywhere except to different results!!!!!!

Linarl

Certainly. their enemy is all those who wish them gone from Israel. That includes hamas who's official policy is to remove them from Israel however they can. Now, since you find something ludicrous about Israel being worried you seem to not have read my post carefully. Here, once more is the applicable quote followed by a brief explanation.

What I said....

The international community wishes Israel to take actions ranging from opening borders to allowing right of return which in effect places six million Palestinians (many of them hostile and members/sympathizers and such of Hamas) in their midst, it would also gives Hamas and Fatah a 3:2 vote in Israeli politics. If you don't think that between the influx of hostile people and a political force which can overthrow the Israeli government could destroy it then I'm afraid I can't explain any better.

If Israel wants peace it could have reached it by returning the occupied lands according to UN resolutions. It has a superior army as they like to chant over and over. Those who have more power/upper hand also have the means to achieve peace if they want to.
Well said. The only reason they have an army at all is because we gave them the power.

Ditto