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Steveno Mumbai India
According to some, the Bible says that same-sex marriage is wrong. However, Christianity teaches tolerance and forgiveness. Would a "good" Christian vote for or against same-sex marriage?
gozoman2 Xaghra, Gozo Malta
Steveno: According to some, the Bible says that same-sex marriage is wrong. However, Christianity teaches tolerance and forgiveness. Would a "good" Christian vote for or against same-sex marriage?



Million dollar question.....

even coming from a Catholic background however, I don't believe it is a matter of a religious belief that should be taken into account on such issue....

but the secular laws that regulate democratic society.

wine



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
In response to: According to some, the Bible says that same-sex marriage is wrong. However, Christianity teaches tolerance and forgiveness. Would a "good" Christian vote for or against same-sex marriage?


Your right it does teach tolerance and forgiveness, but it also clearly states many times, that it is wrong...when it comes to the bible its best to take it all in and not just the parts that justifies your choices.
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
Since I'm not a Christian, I can't respond to that part of the question. I do believe, however, that it should be legal for same-sex couples to marry. Too often the family has not acceptedt the sexual orientation of the person in question, and when it comes to how they wished to be taken care of at the end it is ignored, and so is the long term partner. If they were legally married, then the partner would have all of the rights of any other spouse. I believe everyone has the right to live in a way that gives them happiness, and the current laws deny this option to same-sex partners. JMO. wine

Btw, I do agree that Christianity is supposed to be a religion of tolerance, acceptance of others, and loving others for who they are, so to me, a good Christian would vote for this. Sadly, many consider that it is morally wrong by their standards, and wouldn't. I ask them...who gave anyone on Earth the right to judge others? If I have not walked a mile, or even a step, in someone's shoes, I have no right to judge them, even if I have walked in similar shoes. wine
DazzleYou Seattle, WA, Washington USA
I am not a Christianity expert, but I don't know of anywhere where the Bible teaches tolerance for what is considered sin. I think your statement is a misnomer.

I do believe Christianity teaches forgiveness for sin after repentance (turning from sin), and forgiveness after someone has offended you.
DazzleYou: I am not a Christianity expert, but I don't know of anywhere where the Bible teaches tolerance for what is considered sin. I think your statement is a misnomer.

I do believe Christianity teaches forgiveness for sin after repentance (turning from sin), and forgiveness after someone has offended you.


I consider myself a "good" Catholic....but the Church's stance on same-sex marriage is something I disagree vehemently with.

My opinion is this: what's the big frickin' deal?

Love is love. Period. End of Story.

Sure, you can nitpick and find passages out of context to support homophobia, but if we tried hard enough we could find Biblical writings to support any number of intolerable things...remember, for generations proponents of slavery used the Bible as justification for keeping an entire race of people in perpetual bondage...and today, we all agree that was a wretched abuse of Biblical interpreation.

It is the SPIRIT of the Bible we should uphold...not neccessarily the unyielding literal interpretation.



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
druidess6308: Since I'm not a Christian, I can't respond to that part of the question. I do believe, however, that it should be legal for same-sex couples to marry. Too often the family has not acceptedt the sexual orientation of the person in question, and when it comes to how they wished to be taken care of at the end it is ignored, and so is the long term partner. If they were legally married, then the partner would have all of the rights of any other spouse. I believe everyone has the right to live in a way that gives them happiness, and the current laws deny this option to same-sex partners. JMO.

Btw, I do agree that Christianity is supposed to be a religion of tolerance, acceptance of others, and loving others for who they are, so to me, a good Christian would vote for this. Sadly, many consider that it is morally wrong by their standards, and wouldn't. I ask them...who gave anyone on Earth the right to judge others? If I have not walked a mile, or even a step, in someone's shoes, I have no right to judge them, even if I have walked in similar shoes.


ooooo..something we disagree onwave
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
DazzleYou: I am not a Christianity expert, but I don't know of anywhere where the Bible teaches tolerance for what is considered sin. I think your statement is a misnomer.

I do believe Christianity teaches forgiveness for sin after repentance (turning from sin), and forgiveness after someone has offended you.


I would like to know how being born homosexual is a sin? If you believe that God creates each of us the way we are, how can you then say, "except homosexuals"? And how is it a sin to be the way one was created?



thespis Floriana, Majjistral Malta
I dont think it has anything to do with the bible. We have to keep in mind that society has labeled people, hetero, gay or lesbian.
I think and feel same sex marriage should go more than what the bible said. The bible was written centuries ago and it should not be taken as a dogma.
Regards
Joe



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
Steveno: I consider myself a "good" Catholic....but the Church's stance on same-sex marriage is something I disagree vehemently with.

My opinion is this: what's the big frickin' deal?

*Love is love. Period. End of Story.

Sure, you can nitpick and find passages out of context to support homophobia, but if we tried hard enough we could find Biblical writings to support any number of intolerable things...remember, for generations proponents of slavery used the Bible as justification for keeping an entire race of people in perpetual bondage...and today, we all agree that was a wretched abuse of Biblical interpreation.

It is the SPIRIT of the Bible we should uphold...**not neccessarily the unyielding literal interpretation.


*No it is not..men and women were made to complete each other!
**on the contrary
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
lucky200761: ooooo..something we disagree on


I will always disagree with those who have this narrow, intolerant view and think that this is the only right view.
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
lucky200761: *No it is not..men and women were made to complete each other!


Apparently for some, this is not true. wine
druidess6308 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA
Steveno:

My opinion is this: what's the big frickin' deal?

Love is love. Period. End of Story.

Sure, you can nitpick and find passages out of context to support homophobia, but if we tried hard enough we could find Biblical writings to support any number of intolerable things...remember, for generations proponents of slavery used the Bible as justification for keeping an entire race of people in perpetual bondage...and today, we all agree that was a wretched abuse of Biblical interpreation.



Agreed, Steveno. wine



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
druidess6308: I would like to know how being born homosexual is a sin? If you believe that God creates each of us the way we are, how can you then say, "except homosexuals"? And how is it a sin to be the way one was created?


With that logic(I still like you druid)...
killers were born that way
rapists were born that way
liars and thieves were born that way
and so on..

people become who they are because of what they see,hear, and feel in their daily lives..

You become the person you are, not born!
druidess6308: Agreed, Steveno.


Hello druidess nice to see you around...

wave
Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Steveno: I consider myself a "good" Catholic....but the Church's stance on same-sex marriage is something I disagree vehemently with.

My opinion is this: what's the big frickin' deal?

Love is love. Period. End of Story.

Sure, you can nitpick and find passages out of context to support homophobia, but if we tried hard enough we could find Biblical writings to support any number of intolerable things...remember, for generations proponents of slavery used the Bible as justification for keeping an entire race of people in perpetual bondage...and today, we all agree that was a wretched abuse of Biblical interpreation.

It is the SPIRIT of the Bible we should uphold...not neccessarily the unyielding literal interpretation.



I agree one 100%....tolerance and love is the spirit...not judgment by man....all men and women were born created equally...and the scientific proof that we are born homosexual says that...people who are homosexual were meant to be that way and it's not a choice..the same as it's not a choice what eye or hair colour we are born with...nor the choice to be born heterosexual....soooooooo..with this in mind...and the bible saying all things are perfect that are created by god...then to deny gay marriage....is to deny that all men and women are created equally in the eyes of god regardless of their sexuality...thumbs up



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
druidess6308: Apparently for some, this is not true.

wine wave



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
morning hugs!hug



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Christians should not be allowed top vote. Period. They will only be happy when they vote freedom out,using democracy to end democratic rule and establishing a theocracy.

And if you think the Muslims fight amongst each other...wait till this country is ruled by the "Christian Right" Muslims will be puppy playhole detective



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
pretzelman: Christians should not be allowed top vote. Period. They will only be happy when they vote freedom out,using democracy to end democratic rule and establishing a theocracy.

And if you think the Muslims fight amongst each other...wait till this country is ruled by the "Christian Right" Muslims will be puppy play


frightening, but could end up being true!!...power corrupts even the best intentions sometimes.wave




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