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druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
lucky200761: With that logic(I still like you druid)...
killers were born that way
rapists were born that way
liars and thieves were born that way
and so on..

people become who they are because of what they see,hear, and feel in their daily lives..

You become the person you are, not born!


I still like you, too, Lucky. hug wine

Sexual orientation doesn't fall into the same category, Lucky, not to me. I believe it's a way that people are born. Same with those who are monogamous or not by nature. But, I also do believe that there are some who are born liars and thieves as well, and unable to change who they are, and others that become that way as a product of their environment.



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
Against, it is not the people we don't like, it is the moral principle that I am against so NO I would never vote for gay marriage
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Steveno: Hello druidess nice to see you around...


Hello, Steveno. I always check out your threads when I see them. You bring up interesting subjects for discussion, and in an open, tolerant way.

wave
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
lucky200761: With that logic(I still like you druid)...
killers were born that way
rapists were born that way
liars and thieves were born that way
and so on..

people become who they are because of what they see,hear, and feel in their daily lives..

You become the person you are, not born
!




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lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
Tater: Against, it is not the people we don't like, it is the moral principle that I am against so NO I would never vote for gay marriage

applause cheering handshake wave ...exactly what is said here!



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
lucky200761: With that logic(I still like you druid)...
killers were born that way
rapists were born that way
liars and thieves were born that way
and so on..

people become who they are because of what they see,hear, and feel in their daily lives..

You become the person you are, not born!


gotta agree here..........

as I've said before being gay is a choice, like everything else.... thumbs up
druidess6308: Hello, Steveno. I always check out your threads when I see them. You bring up interesting subjects for discussion, and in an open, tolerant way.


Thanks for the complements...druidess..

hug
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Tater: gotta agree here..........

as I've said before being gay is a choice, like everything else....


That is where I absolutely disagree with you and Lucky. I really don't believe it is, any more than being heterosexual or bisexual is a choice. It's who we are, not who we choose to be.

druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Steveno: Thanks for the complements...druidess..


Just the truth, Steveno. hug



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
My question is Who cares who marries who??? What effect does ot have on YOUR life?? Why should misery be defined as a man an a woman?? What somebody else does in the privacy of their bedroom has NO effect on me. As long as it is between two "CONSENTING ADULTS"....who caresfrustrated
HzChld Somewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA
Tater: gotta agree here..........

as I've said before being gay is a choice, like everything else....


I agree with your statement. wave



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
Then we can agree to dis-agree on this subject once again Dru..laugh cheers

The Bible teaches it is wrong so GOD wouldn't make people gay.... He allows them to be, because he gave man "free will" but we will all be judged on own decisions we make in this life....All are sinners...



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
druidess6308: I still like you, too, Lucky.

Sexual orientation doesn't fall into the same category, Lucky, not to me. I believe it's a way that people are born. Same with those who are monogamous or not by nature. But, I also do believe that there are some who are born liars and thieves as well, and unable to change who they are, and others that become that way as a product of their environment.



Ditto
mike69spain Almuñécar, Andalucia Spain
Tater:
as I've said before being gay is a choice, like everything else....


Sorry for jumping in, but I am convinced that being gay is living with a genetical error.

Let's face it, we are here to reproduce and care for our offsprings to grow up safely (ripping away any cloudy blanket of meaning of life).

Gay's are attracted to the wrong side to be able to do that, the love and caring we can feel for our partner to want us follow that path is for them an obstacle when they want to reproduce.

I do not think it is a choice, it is an error as so many others. I think you can "become gay" of choice if you have a slight error, meaning that you are actually bi-sexual, but the error is still there.

Some are born blind, some deaf and some gay. As a society we need to provide space for all of us.

There are too people born to become a problem to this society, as they lack ability of the right emotions. Not all criminals are it because of their upbringing, they simply lack the gene for empati.

beer



pretzelman Las Vegas, Nevada USA
Tater: Then we can agree to dis-agree on this subject once again Dru..

The Bible teaches it is wrong so GOD wouldn't make people gay.... He allows them to be, because he gave man "free will" but we will all be judged on own decisions we make in this life....All are sinners...



So....we all should live by Bible standards?? Isn't that against our "separation of church and state" laws??? Any law based upon Biblical teachings, should not be allowed, Tater!!professor



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
I have no problem with gay people being together, BUT marriage is the given to us through GOD A marriage is a religious ceremony not a social one. it is between a man and a woman and their commitment to GOD......



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
pretzelman: My question is Who cares who marries who??? What effect does ot have on YOUR life?? Why should misery be defined as a man an a woman?? What somebody else does in the privacy of their bedroom has NO effect on me. As long as it is between two "CONSENTING ADULTS"....who cares


You are wrong!...This way thinking CAN open up the idea that the Bible can me interpreted in any way an individual wants(not that it hasn't already).



lucky200761 Blue Springs, Missouri USA
Tater: I have no problem with gay people being together, BUT marriage is the given to us through GOD A marriage is a religious ceremony not a social one. it is between a man and a woman and their commitment to GOD......

wow thumbs up ...your on a roll
mike69spain Almuñécar, Andalucia Spain
Tater: I have no problem with gay people being together, BUT marriage is the given to us through GOD A marriage is a religious ceremony not a social one. it is between a man and a woman and their commitment to GOD......


Marriage has become a tax-code today.

In that sense... well, marry all that lives together in a union (civil weddings)

As for marrying in a faith that disagree with homosexuality? Why would a gay want that? Beats me, really... dunno


druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Tater: Then we can agree to dis-agree on this subject once again Dru..

The Bible teaches it is wrong so GOD wouldn't make people gay.... He allows them to be, because he gave man "free will" but we will all be judged on own decisions we make in this life....All are sinners...


Tater, I like you despite your views. laugh Yes, we will always have to agree to disagree on this subject, I guess...and that's okay.

I do agree with the part about all of us are imperfect (I don't believe in sin, either), and that each of us will be judged in the end...by whatever you call God, or by our higher selves (our soul)...which is why I don't believe any of us has the right to judge another. hug wine




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