WHO IS OPPOSING PEACE IN GAZA ??

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BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
In the ideal Islamic state, according to Hamas, peace and tranquility will reign, as stated in Article 6 of the charter: "Alongside Islam, adherents to all religions will be able to live in peace and safety to themselves, their property and their rights."
It appears, however, from other articles in the charter and the movement's various publications, that the attitude of Hamas toward Jews in general and Israelis in particular is not as humane as the movement would have it seem. In leaflet #34 (January 1989) the movement called upon residents of the territories to "destroy the Jews and take revenge on them." Article 7 of the charter quotes from the Koran: "The hour will not come until the Moslems fight the Jews and kill them, so much so that when a Jew will hide behind a tree or a stone, these will say: 'Moslem, servant of God, there is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.'"
The Kuwaiti daily Al-Anba (October 1988) offered an explanation of the movement's attitude toward the Jews: "Allah gathered the Jews to Palestine not so that it should serve them as a homeland, but rather so that Palestine should serve them as a cemetery. Allah will rid the entire world of the Jewish affliction, and just as pilgrims atone for their sins by offering a sacrifice at Mecca, so the Jews will be offered as a sacrifice at Al-Aqsa by hands as pure as those of the pilgrims."
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BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
Structure of the Movement
Following the outbreak of the intifada, the leaders of the Moslem Brotherhood decided that the time had come to found a military arm, which would take part in resistance and protest activities in the territories, in terrorist attacks against Israel, and in the Palestinian inter-organizational struggle for control in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Some of the central sections of Hamas (such as the military and security sections) were, therefore, built upon the existing Moslem Brotherhood structures established during the 1980s.
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, aged 47, and the father of 11, is still considered the leader of Hamas. He is confined to a wheelchair, the result of a fall on the beach in his teens (there are those who claim he was injured in an explosion). Despite his disability, he studied at Ein Shams University in Cairo and returned to Gaza as a teacher. In November 1989 Yassin was charged with having devised the goals of the organizations he had founded, directing their activities, passing on extensive financial assistance to them, receiving reports on their activities, ordering the murder of three collaborators, and planning further murders. In October 1991 he was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment plus 15 years.
Following the arrest of Sheikh Yassin, Dr. Ibrahim Yazouri was appointed head of the Moslem Brotherhood. Arrested in 1990, Yazouri was found guilty of serious security offenses and of having been responsible for the deaths of the two Israeli soldiers.
In its founding stage during the early months of the intifada (1987-1988), the movement concentrated upon building its sections and activating its members. The institutionalizing stage came in 1989, during which the movement worked on strengthening its infrastructure while establishing low-level ranks of command on the regional level. The reorganizing stage began following the first wave of arrests of the senior and mid-level leadership of Hamas in late 1989. Israel's determined action against the Islamic Resistance Movement and its leaders was a severe blow to the movement and forced it to restaff most of the senior positions in its various divisions. The movement was also forced to move its leadership to Jordan, to build its control facilities there, and to establish its apparatus there along lines similar to those in the territories.
The military section of Hamas (called Mujahedin A-Falestinin) was founded in 1982 as an independent body affiliated with the Moslem Brotherhood. This section concentrates on planning and carrying out attacks against Israeli military and civilian targets both in the territories and within the "Green Line." The leaders of the military section order operatives to carry out terrorist attacks, provide them with material, and brief them prior to carrying out operations. The section operates under great secrecy, employs various methods of hiding and relaying arms and information among the movement's activists, and trains operatives in various methods of fighting, often including the use of live weapons and the preparation of explosives. Until the end of 1989 the military arm was headed by Sheikh Salah Shahadeh, and since his arrest is apparently operated from Jordan and perhaps even (through messengers) from Israeli jails.
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rizlared Pisa, Tuscany Italy
LILLYLADY: This note is to Nora only!!
Wakie, Wakie, Wakie Palestinian Hamas sympathizer! Your crimes that you blame on Israel to your own people are very clearly seen and shown to the world via your Al Jazeera Arabia television. I agree, the world has seen alot already!! Hamas is playing with their last cards and will be trumped in the end!!
Your TV stations are clear and definitely showing to the world how your beloved Hamas rules it's people. It's about as comparable as what Jim Jones did to his followers in Guyana. He successfully slaughtered most of his followers. Except that in this situation, Hamas kills it's own people with bullets from it's own weapons (rather than drink cyanide laced kool aide)as well as instigates Israel by firing rockets over the border to instigate the Israeli's to attack back. Thus using the Israelis to do your Hamas dirtywork!! And Hamas takes joy in putting their little children in military uniforms with guns to train them to kill but if they get killed in the onslaught from the Israelis...oh....the Israelis are killing our innocent children!!
Whoa lady...don't try to give everyone here a bunch of your bullshit crap anymore. The www.pmw.org videos tell exactly what and how Hamas is and trains it's little children. I suppose you are very proud of your Hamas and I believe you rightfully are! The videos are from right inside of your territory Nora and boasted to the world to see. So quit twisting the reality of what your beloved Hamas is to the people!! They are terrorists and will be scorned by the very people they rule in the end! Checkmate!!
Israel doesn't let the reporters into Gaza while they are engaged in shooting because they don't want to have them caught in any crossfires nor perchance get taken as hostage from somewhere and used as bartering tool to bow down to Hamas murderers. It is very clear from Al Jazeera network what terror organizations do to the foreigners...beheadings, hangings and execution squads are all too common.
You have never answered me when I politely asked you 3x already, many questions about Hamas's beleifs and whether there was any validity to their actions based on the Koran. And you also won't answer to LittleWolf either when she has identified you as what you really are. No, you chose to ignore us constantly and continue on with your banter of Hamas support. And support it you will as that is your right!!
Well, I support Israel 100%.
Bottom line Nora, you can peddle your cachephony to some of the CSers here but many of us here can see right through it. Enough said for now as my red hair is bristling on end right now.


Well said, great post, no bullshit, no lies, no distorted cut and pastes, just cold hard facts.
You have my support 100%.
Now lets stop hammering either side and all work to am amicable and peaceful solution as put forward by Egypt. Israel have already said they are not opposing it.



BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
The Hamas security section, Al-Majd (Glory), was founded in 1987 (before the intifada) within the Moslem Brotherhood in the territories. The aim of this section, as defined by the movement's leaders at the time, was to fight "corruption" in the territories and to monitor Palestinians suspected of collaboration with Israel. These tasks gained added significance with the establishment of Hamas, and operatives of this division began to interrogate, judge and carry out sentences issued by makeshift courts against Palestinians suspected of transgressing against the precepts of Islam (such as drug trafficking and sexual misconduct), or of collaboration with Israeli security forces. In this fashion operatives of the section brutally tortured and murdered dozens of Palestinian "collaborators" during the years 1987-1991.
Another task entrusted to the security section was the gathering of information on the activities of other Palestinian organizations in the territories, including surveillance of their operatives, gathering of leaflets distributed by them, and even planting Hamas agents in their ranks. Among the material discovered in the Hamas archive seized by Israeli security forces in 1989 were surveillance reports on activists in other organizations, as well as documents instructing Hamas operatives on how to infiltrate other organizations and plant agents.
As opposed to other Palestinian organizations in the territories, Hamas found no need to operate a special section for the dissemination of its ideology among the residents of the territories. Hamas, established by the Moslem Brotherhood, simply employed the dozens of mosques and Islamic associations already existing in the West Bank and Gaza to this end. The movement's information section was therefore charged with the dissemination of its decisions and instructions regarding strikes, demonstrations, etc., among the entire population of the territories and not specifically among Hamas activists. Operatives of the Hamas information section are responsible for writing the movement's leaflets and distributing them throughout the territories, for which purpose they use a vast network of messengers and a modern system of facsimile machines (some of which were seized by Israeli security forces in 1991).
The information section is also apparently responsible for the publication of the movement's various periodicals in Arab countries and Europe (i.e., Falestin al-Muslimah, published in the U.K.). The section apparently maintains strong ties with pro-Hamas newspapers published within the "Green Line" by Moslem activists in Israel, as well.
The "uprising" section of Hamas is responsible for organizing and implementing protests and demonstrations in the territories. Section members write anti- Israel slogans on the walls of buildings, prevent Palestinians from going to work in Israel, and initiate local clashes with the IDF including stone-throwing and road-blocks. This section is also in charge of distributing leaflets on the street, organizing strikes and enforcing them, and distributing funds to needy families.
At the head of Hamas and subordinate to the movement's leader, Sheikh Yassin, stands the Steering Committee, which includes Sheikh Mohammed Abu Zid, Sheikh Bassam Jarar, Sheikh Jamal Hamami and others and serves as the movement's senior ideological and religious authority.
Following the arrest of Sheikh Yassin along with a number of the members of the Steering Committee, new activists were appointed to leadership positions, and the involvement of Jordan-based Moslem Brotherhood leaders in Hamas activities in the territories increased.
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BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
Lower down in the Hamas hierarchy is the Central Committee, in charge of planning and coordination of the movement's operation in the West Bank and Gaza, and comprising four members: three from the West Bank and east Jerusalem, and one from the Gaza Strip. Hamas operations sectors include the Northern Sector (the Nablus Sector--coordinating activities in Jenin, Nablus and Tulkarem), Jerusalem, Hebron, and the Gaza Strip. Part of the regional command structure was unearthed by Israeli security forces in February 1991 and the regional leaders, who had been operating under the guise of press offices, were arrested.
Hamas receives funds from three main sources: a) Donations and dues from members and supporters in the territories (often the result of coercive campaigns rather than of a genuine desire to give); b) Special fund-raising campaigns held in large Arab and Moslem communities in Arab countries, Europe and the United States; c) Direct aid from Arab countries (such as Iran, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states), and Islamic charitable institutions in the various Arab countries.
Hamas exerts great efforts at fund-raising among the Moslem communities in the United States. As part of the campaign to strengthen ties between Hamas and Moslem activists in the U.S., the movement's Third Congress was held in late 1990 in Kansas City, with the participation of senior Hamas activists.
An article critical of Hamas and representing the views of Fatah, which appeared in the PLO weekly Falestin A-Thawra published in Nicosia, questioned the source of the money reaching Hamas and stressed that the receipt of funds by Palestinian organizations not via the PLO, in fact, harms the interests of the Palestinian people.
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BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
Relations with Other Organizations
When Hamas was founded in the late 1980s, many Palestinian organizations had already been operating in the territories for some time. These organizations represent a wide range of national and social views and can be divided into four groups: a) Mainstream (headed by Fatah-Arafat); b) Leftist (including the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, headed by George Habash, and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, headed by Naif Hawatmeh); c) Pro-Syrian (including the Jibril Front, A'Saiqa, and Fatah-Abu Mussa); d) Islamic (including the Islamic Jihad and Hamas).
Hamas' attitude toward the PLO is ambivalent: sympathetic (as a relative and a partner in common goals and interests), but opposed to the PLO's secular outlook and its methods of operation in the international arena. Despite attempts by mainstream groups to bring Hamas into the fold, the movement has refused to participate in the joint leadership of the intifada represented by the Unified National Command. At times, Hamas has maintained strong ties with PLO activists in the territories--especially on the tactical level. At others, the political and ideological differences have caused tension which has even led to street battles between activists of the two organizations.
In the mid-1980s, as the religious revival in the territories began to gather momentum, the rise in popularity of the Moslem Brotherhood became a matter of concern among the PLO leadership, and the inter- organizational competition could be felt in the struggle for control of the universities and Palestinian public opinion. This competition was often accompanied by violent clashes between the rivals (using stones, clubs and axes), in some cases leading to killings.
By 1988 Hamas was enjoying incredible success, evident from the many Palestinians joining its ranks and the response to its leaflets calling strikes and demonstrations on days other than those called for by the PLO.
During May and June 1991, as the U.S. worked to bring the Palestinians into a peace process, the rivalry between the two organizations was marked by violence--using live weapons at times--mainly in Nablus. Such conflicts were renewed at the end of 1991 and the beginning of 1992 against the background of the decision by the PLO mainstream to participate in the peace talks with Israel in Madrid and Washington.
The year 1991 saw a number of setbacks in the standing of Hamas in the territories, which affected its relations with the mainstream in Fatah. At the outbreak of the Gulf War, support for Hamas in the territories had reached its peak. "The mother of all wars" stimulated deep religious feelings among the Palestinians and wall slogans in support of Saddam Hussein and Hamas appeared on houses throughout the territories. The defeat of Iraq also affected the Palestinians' own sense of security and their belief in the ability of the Islamic organizations to solve the Palestinian problem and to destroy Israel by force, which resulted in a decline in the standing of Hamas in the territories. Yet the rise of the independent Islamic Republics out of the former USSR at the end of 1991, as well as the success of the Moslem Brotherhood in Algeria, coupled with frustration at the lack of success of the mainstream PLO in the peace talks with Israel, have all worked to improve the prospects of Hamas in the territories.
The leftist organizations--the Habash Front, the Palestinian Communist Party, and Naif Hawatmeh's Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (which during the intifada joined the mainstream group and participated in the Unified National Command)--are considered totally abhorrent by Hamas. In September 1988, Sheikh Yassin stated with regard to the communists: "No, I do not see any possibility of cooperation with them. They are heretics."
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BarrenPneuma Golden Staircase, Ontario Canada
The pro-Syrian groups, like most of the terrorist organizations, are secular in their outlook and, moreover (as opposed to Fatah-Arafat), also serve as Syrian puppets in the Palestinian arena. On the other hand, however, after Hamas leader Sheikh Yassin had been sentenced to 12 years imprisonment for possession of large quantities of arms and for heading a hostile organization in the mid-1980s, he was released through the intervention of Ahmed Jibril's pro-Syrian organization, which demanded Yassin's release as part of its prisoner exchange with Israel.
The Islamic Jihad--Hamas' rival in the Islamic camp in the territories--was in fact the catalyst for the establishment of the Hamas movement. It was the achievements of the activist Islamic Jihad and the popularity it enjoyed among Palestinians during the period prior to the outbreak of the intifada and during its first few months that, inter alia, brought the leaders of the Moslem Brotherhood to the realization that they must take an active part in the Palestinian struggle in the territories.
Since the Islamic Jihad and Hamas both derive their support from the same group--the religious fundamentalists in the territories--the rivalry between the two movements is great. Strategically, the two organizations strive for the same goals: the liberation of Palestine through uncompromising armed struggle, and the establishment of an Islamic religious regime in the liberated territory. However, while the Islamic Jihad strives for an Iranian-style Islamic revolution in Palestine with Iranian support, Hamas is critical of the Islamic Jihad's ties with Iran.
Hamas also collaborates with Islamic fundamentalists in Israel. The leader of the Islamic movement in Israel, Sheikh Abdullah Nimr Darwish, in December 1989 called Hamas "an integral part of the Palestinian people, struggling for an independent state." Most of this cooperation, however, is limited to dissemination of the movement's ideology through newspapers printed and circulated in Israel (such as Sawt al-Haq W'al- Hourriah--The Voice of Justice and Freedom--published in Umm El-Fahm, and closed in 1990 by the Interior Minister for three months for anti-Israel agitation), and technical assistance in printing the move-ment's leaflets in Israel.
Hamas continues to increase in strength in the Israeli-administered territories and more and more is coming to threaten the exclusive position of the PLO. The future growth of the movement may depend in large part on the outcome of the current peace talks. Lack of progress in the talks as perceived by the Palestinians may well work to the advantage of the Islamic fundamentalists.



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
CuspofMagic: PS --- Ive always wondered - why the UN is based in the US and not a neutral country---


It is because the US is the only country that pays it's UN bills. No other country even attemps to pay theier own way. I would love to see the UN leave US soil and see the US drop out of the UN. The UN doesn't work, it is proven every time they try to do anything. If the US ever did pull out of the UN, the UN would just fold.

zee



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
BTW... to answer your question.... I DO!!!

zee



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
zeelanderer: It is because the US is the only country that pays it's UN bills. No other country even attemps to pay theier own way. I would love to see the UN leave US soil and see the US drop out of the UN. The UN doesn't work, it is proven every time they try to do anything. If the US ever did pull out of the UN, the UN would just fold.

zee


I agree with the staement above ... 1000%


but unfortunitely we will become part of a one world government before to longthumbs down and the UN will basically be in charge...barf
callibya malta, Majjistral Malta
LILLYLADY: Just another phony website made up by disgruntled Jihad supporters.


you know LILLYLADY the website which it removed by moderator I got it from haaretz Newspaper and i believe you know haaretz belong to whom... but i can answer you will be no peace without freedom..

so the formula :

Freedom = peace
occupation = war



peace



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
If Hamas had any smarts, they would have attacked the US rather than Israel. Israel will as they did, retaliate and leave their cities in ruin. The US would have too, but would have spent Billions of dollars rebuilding it as we have since WW1. Look at what Germany has become today.... sorry, bad example.... look at what Japan has become today.

zee



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
zeelanderer: If Hamas had any smarts, they would have attacked the US rather than Israel. Israel will as they did, retaliate and leave their cities in ruin. The US would have too, but would have spent Billions of dollars rebuilding it as we have since WW1. Look at what Germany has become today.... sorry, bad example.... look at what Japan has become today.

zee



Sorry ZEE, they probably would have but there junk chinese missiles won't go this far...
highfidelity Europe, Bundesland Germany
zeelanderer: If Hamas had any smarts, they would have attacked the US rather than Israel. Israel will as they did, retaliate and leave their cities in ruin. The US would have too, but would have spent Billions of dollars rebuilding it as we have since WW1. Look at what Germany has become today.... sorry, bad example.... look at what Japan has become today.

zee
you fergot what Iraq has become today doh



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
highfidelity: you fergot what Iraq has become today
The US is pouring billions of dollars into Iraq for rebuilding projects... but I guess you wouldn't know that.

zee
darling cyprus, Paphos Cyprus
highfidelity: Israel broke the ceasefire by going into the Gaza and killing six or seven Palestinian militants.You can find it on the Israeli website, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website writes it early.

At that point—and now I’m quoting the official Israeli website—Hamas retaliated or, in retaliation for the Israeli attack, then launched the missiles......

"According to Ha’aretz, Defense Minister Barak began plans for this invasion before the ceasefire even began.

The second main reason for the attack is because Hamas was signaling that it wanted a diplomatic settlement of the conflict along the June 1967 border.

That is to say, Hamas was signaling they had joined the international consensus, they had joined most of the international community, overwhelmingly the international community, in seeking a diplomatic settlement. And at that point, Israel was faced with what Israelis call a Palestinian peace offensive. And in order to defeat the peace offensive, they sought to dismantle Hamas.

Can it rule in Gaza if Israel maintains a blockade and prevents economic activity among the Palestinians. The blockade, incidentally, was implemented before Hamas came to power. The blockade doesn’t even have anything to do with Hamas. The blockade came to—there were Americans who were sent over, in particular James Wolfensohn, to try to break the blockade after Israel redeployed its troops in Gaza.

Mr. Obama has to level with the American people. He has to be honest about what is the main obstacle to resolving the conflict. It’s not Palestinian rejectionism. It’s the refusal of Israel, backed by the United States government, to abide by international law, to abide by the opinion of the international community.

And the main challenge for all of us is to see through the lies.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW ???
darling cyprus, Paphos Cyprus
You are right,Israel doesnt want to give the land back.Lets hope Obama will get this sorted out for the Palestinians.They deserve their freedom and land.Shame on Israel.
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
darling: You are right,Israel doesnt want to give the land back.Lets hope Obama will get this sorted out for the Palestinians.They deserve their freedom and land.Shame on Israel.
Another Edumcated one.
Fell for the Hamas Propaganda too,hmmmmmm.?scold



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
Conrad73: Another Edumcated one.
Fell for the Hamas Propaganda too,hmmmmmm.?


people are going to be so disapointed when they realize that President Obama has to deal with congress to get anything done. He is not the second coming, he is just a man trying to do the job given to him the best that he can.

Zee



Tater springfield, Illinois USA
Conrad73: Another Edumcated one.
Fell for the Hamas Propaganda too,hmmmmmm.?


laugh

I don't know why people just don't understand the "FACT" that they will never be satisfied until Isreal doesn't exist anymore....... you can give them all the land but one city block and they will still try and kill Isreali's...


RELIGIOUS reasons are more powerful than any government or any amount politics

Religious beleif's out way their own Country's laws to those who truely beleive

Same is true for me.. If the US. decides someday that I must which my Religion... (which might happen in the future, cause I'm a Christian. and the left likes every religion except mine....) I will fight my own Country...period..




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