WHO IS OPPOSING PEACE IN GAZA ??

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LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
callibya: you know LILLYLADY the website which it removed by moderator I got it from haaretz Newspaper and i believe you know haaretz belong to whom... but i can answer you will be no peace without freedom..

so the formula :

Freedom = peace
occupation = war


And I'm sure you can justly identify who made those Jihad training videos of the Palestinian children training to kill the Jews!! And of the pictures of the Palestinians standing next to their lined up Kassam rockets!! Those videos sure weren't made in Israel sweetheart. Try typing in www.pmw.org. to view the real videos that come out of the Gaza territory. So don't bite me on this one. The videos were posted very proudly for the world to see. Western television has no hand or part in making those videos.
As part of the world, please do take a close look at them and see what destruction has been wrought to those people because of them.
And please don't tell us all here that the videos are false because no Jew or Westerner is in there filming it. These military training videos come from sources only inside Gaza with the blessings and restrictions of Hamas. They wanted the world to see them and instill fear in everyone. But cry foul later when they can't take what they dish out.
In conclusion, you posted a website that was not even a Haaretz newspaper site as you so stated above.



Abram Goshen, Ohio USA
"It is because the US is the only country that pays it's UN bills. No other country even attemps to pay theier own way. I would love to see the UN leave US soil and see the US drop out of the UN. The UN doesn't work, it is proven every time they try to do anything. If the US ever did pull out of the UN, the UN would just fold."
zee

Tater: I agree with the staement above ... 1000%but unfortunitely we will become part of a one world government before to long and the UN will basically be in charge...


rolling on the floor laughing Agreed Tater, and the UN, of US control, would still be the only nation spending more money around the world then any other nation. Guess we should be in charge, eh?laugh



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
Abram: Agreed Tater, and the UN, of US control, would still be the only nation spending more money around the world then any other nation. Guess we should be in charge, eh?


I hope President Obama is true to his word... if the program doesn't work then we will get rid of it.... The UN doesn't work.

zee
callibya malta, Majjistral Malta
LILLYLADY: And I'm sure you can justly identify who made those Jihad training videos of the Palestinian children training to kill the Jews!! And of the pictures of the Palestinians standing next to their lined up Kassam rockets!! Those videos sure weren't made in Israel sweetheart. to view the real videos that come out of the Gaza territory. So don't bite me on this one. The videos were posted very proudly for the world to see. Western television has no hand or part in making those videos.
As part of the world, please do take a close look at them and see what destruction has been wrought to those people because of them.
And please don't tell us all here that the videos are false because no Jew or Westerner is in there filming it. These military training videos come from sources only inside Gaza with the blessings and restrictions of Hamas. They wanted the world to see them and instill fear in everyone. But cry foul later when they can't take what they dish out.
In conclusion, you posted a website that was not even a Haaretz newspaper site as you so stated above.



My sweet Jew Lady now i'm gonna sleep cus its 1am our time but promise you i'll answer you 2moro and show you who's rit and wrong..ok.. but hope that the moderator keep away and i believe you can ask him so...deal?
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
callibya: My sweet Jew Lady now i'm gonna sleep cus its 1am our time but promise you i'll answer you 2moro and show you who's rit and wrong..ok.. but hope that the moderator keep away and i believe you can ask him so...deal?
sick troll jackolantern
zeelanderer: It is because the US is the only country that pays it's UN bills. No other country even attemps to pay theier own way. I would love to see the UN leave US soil and see the US drop out of the UN. The UN doesn't work, it is proven every time they try to do anything. If the US ever did pull out of the UN, the UN would just fold.

zee




You have got to be joking!!!


The US doesn't pay their debts to the UN...
They're the country that owes the most to the UN...



zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA
Olsojente: You have got to be joking!!!The US doesn't pay their debts to the UN...
They're the country that owes the most to the UN...


I didn't say we pay the debts of other countries.... we are the only country that pays into the UN. The US keeps the UN afloat. This needs to end and let the UN sink.

zee
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Olsojente: You have got to be joking!!!The US doesn't pay their debts to the UN...
They're the country that owes the most to the UN...


http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-304es.html

conversing dunno confused



Sorry... must have changed since last year when I looked into it then...


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zeelanderer Louisville, Kentucky USA


I thought I saw this somewhere... thank youbowing

zee
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
callibya: My sweet Jew Lady now i'm gonna sleep cus its 1am our time but promise you i'll answer you 2moro and show you who's rit and wrong..ok.. but hope that the moderator keep away and i believe you can ask him so...deal?


I have not spoken with the mods whatsoever with this thread. I didn't feel there was any need to. I spoke my mind and that is my right as much as yours or anyones here. There was no attack on your Koran or anyone's bible.It's a purely political exchange of views with rebuttals to peoples comments. None of us always like what the other person has to say. That's common all over the world. That is the point of these debates. In reality, most of the CSers are probably the very nicest people you probably will ever want to know. Maybe even a nearby unknown neighbor to you who admires your courage. Yet, they will be so different from you in their thinking.
Perhaps you have, or someone you know, may have said something as to why certain things were removed. The MODs do read the threads and can moderate as they choose. If they think you are breaking their rules, then they reserve the right to remove, lock or delete something. It is their site.
I have simply stated some facts that are facts that you cannot deny. If you personally point out something to me, I will give it some serious consideration, but if you point out a fallacy to me and throw your finger at me too, I will take a bite at you.
When you throw your finger at me, you throw it at the MODs too. And they throw their finger back. I have reported no one on this forum Missy. So if you abuse their rules, they politely let you know by removing your comments.
When you're in the landlord's house, ya go by their rules. If not, you move out or get evicted. It's that simple.You get the point now I hope? I'm being real, up front here!
So for tonight, sincerely, I wish you a very safe and peaceful night of sleep. Don't lose any sleep over things in life or on the internet that you don't have direct control over. Too many lives and nights of sleep have been lost all the way around the world, throughout time immortal!!

Lillylady
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
One correction to my posting above Callibya: I truly do mean not to lose sleep over things on the internet that you don't have control over. My own correction to the entire posting is that in life, there are medical things that worry everyone at some time in their life and yes, it is OK to lose sleep over worrying over those things that are not always in your control.
Just don't lose it over internet political views. Deal?
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
Hey Calibya...one last thing for the night.Please think on this one. When you address me, you will courteously address me by my name Lillylady as I am known here. You don't call me Jew lady. Does anyone address you as Muslim lady here? Nah, I didn't think so. It shows your direct racial religious hatred. It's obvious not a Zionist thing with you.
I don't want an apology for your deliberate religious slur but it doesn't slip by me nor anyone else that reads your posts.
Get my CS name right as it is written or next time, be silenced by the MODs. Shhh, the MODs finger is mighty powerful and sharp as a sword here.

highfidelity Europe, Bundesland Germany
insulting other and sending hate emails - is quite primitive and unacceptable - please refrain from this sort - I would like to keep the threads up and alive to exchange views on issues - there are PLENTY THREADS for EGO - PLAYERS yawn

Good Morning or Good Night

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Anyone has more news on the claim that Israel used uranium ammunition in Gaza?


(only found on Reuters yesterday)
rizlared Pisa, Tuscany Italy
darling: You are right,Israel doesnt want to give the land back.Lets hope Obama will get this sorted out for the Palestinians.They deserve their freedom and land.Shame on Israel.


For a person who lives where you do, I would suggest its dangerous to throw stones when in a glasshouse.

A case of pot calling the kettle back methinks!!
rizlared Pisa, Tuscany Italy
highfidelity: insulting other and sending hate emails - is quite primitive and unacceptable - please refrain from this sort - I would like to keep the threads up and alive to exchange views on issues - there are PLENTY THREADS for EGO - PLAYERS

Good Morning or Good Night

********************************************Anyone has more news on the claim that Israel used uranium ammunition in Gaza?


(only found on Reuters yesterday)


Why would you want to ask such a question, you say that Israel wants to take over Gaza, hardly a great argument then, to infect the land with radioactive material. Sounds to me like your just trying to stir up more anti Semitic fever.

Yet you are happy that Qassam rockets were used by hamas to kill Israelis, a weapon wholly condemned by the Human Rights Watch organization. But you fail to mention such,not a balanced view.

Show your true colours, either you are posting for effect and to promote anti Semitic propaganda, or you are here to show support for a peaceful settlement.

In my own personnel view from reading your posts I would suggest you are anti Semitic, that you have no desire for a peaceful end to this awful conflict and are prepared to go to any lengths of lies and misinformation to try an prove your point.
solitare Up river from Concepcion Paraguay
It seems that it is back to square one prior to the Zionist invasion of Gaza: the tunnels are being re-opened and new ones dug across the Egyptian border to Gaza for anything, everything to be taken in to Gaza, from food, to fuel to arms. Tons of various items are being supplied via the Muslim Brotherhood and what seems an easily solvable problem in halting this is for Egypt to fully deploy it's armed forces along that border but cannot risk it because of the control by and of the members of the Egyptian forces that are members of, or in sympathy with the aims of the Muslim brotherhood. This could be the revolt of the army against the Mubarak regime which of course will then put the direct confrontation of Egypt and the Zionists as a sure thing and other Arab states may possibly join in. The Zionist's days are numbered; they will not achieve the 'peace' they wish for which is the peace of the grave for the Palestinians and the Arabic peoples, other than perhaps launching an all out nuclear attack on the surrounding Arabic countries with the old tired paranoiac excuse of it being surrounded by enemies; 'everyone wants to destroy us'...sounds about the same as extremist philosophy of the US in the 'gotta have more and bigger guns' cause people wanna kill me'.
A 'pre-emptive strike' of course will mean both Iran and Syria will be hit which will only expand to other powers....perhaps a nuclear made wasteland is the type of peace the Zionists really wish for, as those insane bible thumping evangelicals do in the US that have been behind the Bush regime really wish to bring about their beloved 'second coming'...seems that that particular mental disease is rather infectious and quite contagious...
I seem to recall the old verses about turning swords into plough shares having to do with peace and the cessation of hostilities and I wonder why, IF the Zionists keep repeating their claims that they wish peace for all, why has the Zionist govt. not yet taken the opportunity to now announce that due to all the horrific damages they have caused to the peoples of Gaza, turn around and proclaim they are sending back their soldiers without weapons back into Gaza to help re-build it and help those refugees....but I forgot, their teachings do not recognize the Palestinians or any others as human....just goyim to be slaughtered...
rizlared Pisa, Tuscany Italy
solitare: IF the Zionists keep repeating their claims that they wish peace for all, why has the Zionist govt. not yet taken the opportunity to now announce that due to all the horrific damages they have caused to the peoples of Gaza, turn around and proclaim they are sending back their soldiers without weapons back into Gaza to help re-build it and help those refugees....but I forgot, their teachings do not recognize the Palestinians or any others as human....just goyim to be slaughtered...


They have

Livni: Israel ready to cooperate on Gaza aid `as far as needed`
By Reuters

"The European Union said it hoped more humanitarian aid could get through to Gaza Strip on Thursday after Israel assured EU officials it would fully cooperate on allowing urgent supplies through.

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said after talks with EU officials in Brussels that crossings into Gaza were open for such humanitarian purposes and Israel was ready to cooperate "as far as needed" to ensure vital aid got through."
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
solitare: It seems that it is back to square one prior to the Zionist invasion of Gaza: the tunnels are being re-opened and new ones dug across the Egyptian border to Gaza for anything, everything to be taken in to Gaza, from food, to fuel to arms. Tons of various items are being supplied via the Muslim Brotherhood and what seems an easily solvable problem in halting this is for Egypt to fully deploy it's armed forces along that border but cannot risk it because of the control by and of the members of the Egyptian forces that are members of, or in sympathy with the aims of the Muslim brotherhood. This could be the revolt of the army against the Mubarak regime which of course will then put the direct confrontation of Egypt and the Zionists as a sure thing and other Arab states may possibly join in. The Zionist's days are numbered; they will not achieve the 'peace' they wish for which is the peace of the grave for the Palestinians and the Arabic peoples, other than perhaps launching an all out nuclear attack on the surrounding Arabic countries with the old tired paranoiac excuse of it being surrounded by enemies; 'everyone wants to destroy us'...sounds about the same as extremist philosophy of the US in the 'gotta have more and bigger guns' cause people wanna kill me'.
A 'pre-emptive strike' of course will mean both Iran and Syria will be hit which will only expand to other powers....perhaps a nuclear made wasteland is the type of peace the Zionists really wish for, as those insane bible thumping evangelicals do in the US that have been behind the Bush regime really wish to bring about their beloved 'second coming'...seems that that particular mental disease is rather infectious and quite contagious...
I seem to recall the old verses about turning swords into plough shares having to do with peace and the cessation of hostilities and I wonder why, IF the Zionists keep repeating their claims that they wish peace for all, why has the Zionist govt. not yet taken the opportunity to now announce that due to all the horrific damages they have caused to the peoples of Gaza, turn around and proclaim they are sending back their soldiers without weapons back into Gaza to help re-build it and help those refugees....but I forgot, their teachings do not recognize the Palestinians or any others as human....just goyim to be slaughtered...


Since the borders are now open to allow supplies and humanitarian aide in, there should be no reason that the Palestinians should need to redig the tunnels. Seems more like they just want to smuggle in more weapons to restart their attacks on Israel again.
Perhaps you are a Rabbi or have studied under the Rabbis that you are so knowledgeable of what Jewish teaching are regarding other humans in general as you have stated above? So we can gather here from your words that you are of 100% Jewish heritage or a converted Jew, since you are rather astute on what you believe are the Jewish teachings.
Seems more like the Palestinian's Hamas teachings do not recognize the Jews/Israelis, just Yids to be slaughtered, factually based on Hamas's constitution. Eh? This has been pointed out by some of the forum posters in some of the Gaza threads.
The Israelis have pulled back into their own borders. Let's see if Hamas really wants peace and stops the rocket firing into Israel! We'll just have to wait and see if they can keep their promise. They have a chance for peace but if they choose aggression again, I'm not so sure that the world will come to their rescue again as Israel pounds them to smithereens.
So for now, we'll just have to wait it out and see what happens over there.sad flower
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
highfidelity: insulting other and sending hate emails - is quite primitive and unacceptable - please refrain from this sort - I would like to keep the threads up and alive to exchange views on issues - there are PLENTY THREADS for EGO - PLAYERS

Good Morning or Good Night

********************************************Anyone has more news on the claim that Israel used uranium ammunition in Gaza?


(only found on Reuters yesterday)


Doubt there is any truth to that one. If uranium ammunition was used, the entire population would have been destroyed almost immediately. And it wouldn't take much ammunition to do it either. End of Gaza inhabitants immediately, no more people problems for the world. How ludicrous to even ask CSers about a claim for uranium ammunition use! Get a life now!! Stop throwing more bullshit onto the pile!!
Geez....what were you thinking to even post something that ludicrousconfused doh thumbs down




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