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because I'm more advanced in my spiritual growth Animals are a second stage of the so called conditioned food chain. I'm not like a sheep that follows,I'm a free thinker.I have the freedom to choose what's right for me

well you can disagree all you want but as far as i know there has not been a plant found to have a brain or a nervous system....

but if you have, i'd say you should contact Nat'l Geographic Explorer or give a lecture to the world's most renowned botanists and im sure you'll be a shoe in for the next nobel prize....

that's the problem i have with many tree huggers... and please dont take this personal cause im not talking about you... i dont know you nor your views or understanding of things... but many of said tree huggers will make statements about those of us who hunt, things like we are animal murderers, cold blooded monsters who have no respect for nature and so on and so forth.... when the reality is many (if not most) hunters probably know and respect nature more than many of those animal rights people who base their entire logic on "feelings", not only the animals' but their own as well.... we generally tend to speak more factually !!!

so as far as the facts (and feel free to discuss this with any biologist, botanist, doctor, vet, etc etc) are that pain is a warning system designed to let he (or it) that experiences it, know that there is a problem that needs attention.... it requires nerves to transmt the pain signal to the brain and a brain to interpret it as pain... much the same as sight, feel, hearing, smell and taste.... or are you gonna tell me next that plants can see, hear, feel, smell and taste????

I have an idea. So many relationships turn sour after the guy gets sex. What if we killed and ate the guy right after sex? Why not? Some spiders and insects do it. There's a precedent in nature. It's environmental. Think of how much nuclear power one man uses in a year. Eat a man. Conserve energy. The human species isn't endangered. No more morning after BS. Ladies, are you tired of men losing interest right after sex? Never be dumped after putting out again! You've tried everything to keep a man from running away: fad diets, lingerie, date rape drugs in his coffee. Now try something that REALLY works...

Praying Mantis is the one that eats the male, actually bites his head off.... he cant mate until that is done first !!!

there are some spiders that once the female lays the eggs and they hatch, she just lays there as food for the offspring so that they have a chance to grow enough to make it on their own....

now there goes another idea !!!!... no more factories creating pollution to make female beauty products.... !!!!!

I just saw a TV special where some female spiders eat the male. How about if we cooked and ate repeat violent offenders. 90 percent of them are male. How about if we shut down the chemical company factories that make AX body spray and Viagra type products?

you got my vote there.... where do i sign up....

and of course, i wont be held liable for being stinky after Axe is banned right?

No, you can switch to Irish Spring body wash. I won't be eating the violent offenders. I'm a vegetarian.

Then an old man, a keeper of an inn, said, "Speak to us of Eating and Drinking."
And he said:
Would that you could live on the fragerance of the earth, and like an air plant be sustained by the light.
But since you must kill to eat, and rob the young of its mother's milk to quench your thirst, let it then be an act of worship,
And let your board stand an altar on which the pure and the innocent of forest and plain are sacrificed for that which is purer and still more innocent in many.
When you kill a beast say to him in your heart,
"By the same power that slays you, I to am slain; and I too shall be consumed. For the law that delivered you into my hand shall deliver me into a mightier hand.
Your blood and my blood is naught but the sap that feeds the tree of heaven."
And when you crush an apple with your teeth, say to it in your heart,
"Your seeds shall live in my body,

From "The Prophet" of Khalil Gibran

Well, that surely made it sound like a competition. You're more spiritually aware than me, and tuned in to a higher vibration, because you don't eat meat and I do? I know many who are very tuned in and very spiritually aware who are not vegetarians. The two are not equal. I'm very aware of energy, and very tuned in to it.

But whatever. Peace. I'm not here to argue.

I don't know if they smell and taste, but I believe they can hear. Why do plants grow better when people talk to them and play classical music for them otherwise? And I do believe they feel. But then, I can tune into their energy and feel it. It's not about what biologists believe, though science is beginning to be able to measure life-force energy. And plants definitely have life force energy, which is why they're such powerful healers. Anything with life-force energy has feelings...even you.

I have nothing against hunters. You control the population, and more would die of starvation if there weren't hunters. If I had to, I could do it to put food on my table for me and my family.

And yes, SND, I'm a "tree-hugger", as you put it. Literally, almost. I do lay hands on them to heal and to receive healing.

To each their own.

Gibran always makes me cry (and hungry )

I cut way back on meat because it felt right for me to do so. Not because I had been told to do so by anyone - my doctor was the last to find out. In my case she was very helpful in reinforcing what I had already found out on my own.

The rest of my family are still all meat eaters (more than chicken) - that's their choice. They can't argue with my health though.

vegan here

Go for it!


Unless he's a chicken - he's perfectly safe with me.

no meat no poultry no seafood no animal products.........works for me 16 yrs now

bad bad bad

where is that cute winky little guy?
can't spot him right now but that will do?

OMG I hope that's true!