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No I am suggesting what we call a process of "Romanization" of the Provence. Rome was well aware of Britain even before the Gaius Julius Caesar invasion. Society within Britain before was complex the only thing the Romans did was to Romanize it. Examples of this can be seen in Romano-Celtic art/craft work. The Romans did not just invade they had what is called Client Kingdoms (fishbourn) being a prime example.

Tell that one to Boudiccas daughters............

"Boudica" and the Iceni tribe where treated harshly by the Romans without a doubt. But she got her revenge and very nearly caused the Romans to pull out. Dont forget we are talking about the Roman Empire not the Roman church :)

Empire and Church alike, they were repelled from these shores as soon as it became clear that 'trading' wasnt their only motive........

They where not repelled the Romans where here for years and year. London is a Roman city "Londinium" "Colchester" "Porcheter" the list is endless. Civic offices, even our law systems are Roman in nature. The Roman church is still here in Britain. No matter what way you look at it did the Romans ever really go?

No, they never really went because their use of fear eventually subsumed the native beliefs and that fear persisted till reason began to gain ground over faith which was progressed by the cause of education for all which is a relatively recent event - they had superior force at the time and demonstrated this with acts such as the barbaric treatment of Boudicca and many other acts which were designed to subdue rebellion - but they didnt take away the spirit of the people which is evidenced by revivals of various pagan rituals in recent years as well as the taking back of christmas - we have survived the invasion and now its the christian numbers which are dwindling........

Fancy a date then

most of us know the difference between the meaning of the word catholic and roman catholic,but roman catholics tend to say just catholic,as it is less of a mouthful,we also know about romans and henry v111,but the thread was about catholic king/queen, trinity,you havent given your views on that

Amen to all that

A man can be good or bad whatever his faith. In a modern Britain I see not need for a Monarch yet alone a debate if they are catholic or not.

Well we would sure have lots to talk about thats for certain - there wouldnt be any of those embarassing silences

Luv yer Trish!!

i kinda think we did ourselves a bit of a diservice when the romans pulled out.....makes ya wonder with all they gave us...central heating bathing etc...i wonder where we as a nation would have been today...how far advanced we'd be....took us anoth 3,000 years to get central heating back......


mind u didnt agree with the lion thing but it has to be said we didnt half go backwards again and went back to the old mud hut..........


kinda makes me giggle!!!!!!!

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Thank God Scotland will be a free and independent Nation once more and soon! divide and rule is destructive and used for polititcal gain and power we in Scotland have had great experience of it's effect on society. We as a Nation have twigged and are becoming united as one people to move forward to be a better society and a tolerant and free Nation in Europe and the World

So you have said before........MANY times!!

Well come up here and be free JoJo and be a happy chappie! Brommies are welcome here tak kare lass

If Scotland was to become independent, it would be interesting how long peace would be there, the religious divide is still there, and the economy would be shaky to say the least, especially if England demanded the return of all investments made such as the banks and of course the oil fields, I cannot think of anything that is solely produced in Scotland that can support the economy, but open to suggestions.

With regards to the religious belief of the royal family, for them to include Catholics, well why not, there is not suggestion however that the royal family should change their faith, and to my recollection the heir to the throne and his sons are not Catholics.

The revenue created by the Royal family far outweighs the loss that would occur if they were to be abolished, and in all fairness the Prince Charles fund has provided a huge amount of money for those young people to start new business's, I accept that some of the hangers on are beyond the pale and should be removed, but if we had a president, there would be just the same hangers on, plus who would you vote as President, we have enough trouble voting for a PM.

You know Kevint you are so thick it's not real Paterson a Scot founded the bank of Merry England, your Royal family as you call them Windsor's are Mountbatten's house of Hanover and are Deutch ( German ) also in the act of Union 1707 Scotland had a surplus of money and England was in defecite for example our GNP in 1998 was
£49 billion paid to your treasury of which we got £14 billion in return for our contribution to your so called UK! to run our country! fair deal I doubt it Keavit! I am not knocking your Royal Family and agree they do your country a lot of good we are all happy for you and long may it continue. But don't come the crap that your English economy is supporting my country that is just ill informed information you have absorbed and it comes across as arrogant which is the basic problem between our two Nations the fiscal fact is England would be a lot worse off without Scotland and they know it! surely you do not think that the oil revenues from Scottish waters is Englands! These attitudes
have bred the desire to be fiscally independent from you country, I mean you no offence but I am stating my opinoin which I have the right to do

Of course you have the right to voice your opinion, no one said any different.

My understanding was that it was money from England that originally financed the north sea oil fields, something that created a vast number of jobs for the Scottish. regarding the banks, I was referring to the bailout of HBOS, if you had been independent, Scotland would have had to borrow from the imf at some huge cost, as it is this cost is being paid for by your and my tax.

The oil fields, I would just point out are outside of Scottish water, and are owned by BP a company based in London.

It has been forecast that the 2007 GNP for Scotland including the revenue from the oil, will be around £70 billion, with the rest of the united kingdom producing some £2000 billion, £70 billion would put Scotland at about 50 in the list of countries just below Egypt, It was also shown that with this amount of money Scotland would not be able to sustain a health service or armed forces without huge impact on the unemployed, a major problem in Scotland especially at this time.