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Hi Karen,
You got the hint (traditional values) - Widen the scope outside the USA

I am *sure* you can find a REAL man here who lets rip at morons you describe and even worse if they are ill mannered to ladies, even nice big ones built for comfort rather than speed.

I am one and don't give a shit how young or how big the morons are either.
Ignore lazy bloody parasites

Cheer up cuddles - Help is at hand with The ShiteHawk if you seek

The anwer is simple ...Mothers.

Yes Mothers who dont prepare their sons for the real world by teaching them how to do the practical everyday things that have to be done.
Of course previous generations did stick to the so called 'traditional' roles of breadwinner and homemaker but in this day and age it is simply not possible for all Mothers to stay home.

I have 2 daughters and 1 son and all of them know how to cook and do housework. No woman will ever have to be Mammy to my son.

well said president of wit and integrity, my sentiments exactly this is the age of equal oppurtunity

I understand traditional values in a traditional setting. My mother was a stay-at-home mom, and it would make sense for her to do the housework, along with us kids, but when both parties are working, it isn't fair for the woman to have to do both. With the high cost of living, it is now a necessity for women to work as well. That is part of the reason I've stayed single, I don't need to worry about doeing someone elses laundry, cooking etc. I have more freedom and time to enjoy my life.

Scuse me... Not all men walk around with their heads up their jacksies....

I always have, and always will do my fair share of housework...and if you dont believe me...ask anybody who knows me on this site, about my cleaning obsession...

As for my socks......well...I blame that on the washing machine...after IVE done the laundry....always seems to be one less afterwards.....never mind...hopping aint so bad...

And my fair share of cooking might I add..?? <---see?

Now you will really have the girls scrambling to meet ya! :)

i think one of the reasons women like doing all the housework is that it gives them a sense of purpose...and brings out their caring maternal side, or something, in them as well... we men should insist we be allowed to do our part..or we can become too dependent on women..and that can give them too much control..it's only right to let them feel important..but not superior....jmho.

Women like doing housework???

Were did you get that idea from? some do but not all.
We just do what has to be done. And a man wouldnt have to insist he do his part with me lol

hey vonney..do you not get just a little thrill at pushing a feather duster around a cobweb filled lampshade?

lol

I might get a thrill from using a feather duster but I wouldnt be dusting with it

Women make better coffee..




Cause we don't you where women put them...

I really don't think good coffee is a gender thing. Some of the guys in my office make pretty good coffee. When they give me that dumb look, I show them how to do it. Sort of the saying, you give a man a fish you feed him for the day, but give a man a pole and teach him to fish you feed him for life.

I would think the logical place for socks would be in the bedroom dresser.

I agree.

One of my younger brothers had to learn the lesson the hard way. He decided to help out my older brother with the dishes while my older brother was at work. He loaded the dishwasher and then added the liquid soap. Unfortunately, the soap was meant for washing the dishes by hand. He then went to check on the mail. When he got back, there were suds all the way up to the counters. When my older brother got home, he asked him what happened. The carpet was a little wet between the kitchen and the living room and the kitchen floor was really slick.

making coffee is a skill which improves with practice..if one of the genders is given the task more often than the other, then that gender will by necessity improve in their coffee making skills and everybody will be happy because of it...geez, don't moan at us for helping you to improve..thank us for aiding your personal development. we sacrifice our own advancement for yours...isn't that what you want from us? ...that we lay down our lives for you? ...that we strive to ensure you become all the woman you possibly can be?..

Men can't do right for doing wrong.

If we work all hours to provide a secure and financially sound environment then we are accused of ignoring the "little women".

If we share the household chores we are accused of being a wimp.

Just as a thought, how many women walk away from what was a loving caring marriage because they think the grass is greener else where (I am not talking about those that have cheating/violent spouses etc)

As opposed to how many men leave for the same reason.

Answer that one and maybe you will understand that no one is perfect, men have faults but so do women, if you stop complaining about your men maybe they will feel more respected and an asset to a family, and actually want to help around the home.


According to the Citizens Advice Bureau, more women than men become bored and dissatisfied with their marriage, tell someone they are useless for long enough, they will end up feeling useless. And that works for both sexes!!!

But if you talk, open up lines of real communication instead of relying on men being able to read your every thought, maybe just maybe you too will be in for a long and happy relationship

JMO

I totally agree with all that you say that men are totally undomesticated and useless at sharing the domestic duties that's why I used to keep all the ones I lived with locked up in my and just let them out for special occassions such as going to work and attending to my womanly needs

used to? are you not opening your again soon?