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FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
guiriman: making coffee is a skill which improves with practice..if one of the genders is given the task more often than the other, then that gender will by necessity improve in their coffee making skills and everybody will be happy because of it...geez, don't moan at us for helping you to improve..thank us for aiding your personal development. we sacrifice our own advancement for yours...isn't that what you want from us? ...that we lay down our lives for you? ...that we strive to ensure you become all the woman you possibly can be?..


You're right. Women have been so selfish doing all the housework and not letting men advance. So, women, you heard it here. You got to be fair and let the men do more of the housework. You can't have all the control. lol rolling on the floor laughing



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
rizlared: Men can't do right for doing wrong.

If we work all hours to provide a secure and financially sound environment then we are accused of ignoring the "little women".

If we share the household chores we are accused of being a wimp.

Just as a thought, how many women walk away from what was a loving caring marriage because they think the grass is greener else where (I am not talking about those that have cheating/violent spouses etc)

As opposed to how many men leave for the same reason.

Answer that one and maybe you will understand that no one is perfect, men have faults but so do women, if you stop complaining about your men maybe they will feel more respected and an asset to a family, and actually want to help around the home.According to the Citizens Advice Bureau, more women than men become bored and dissatisfied with their marriage, tell someone they are useless for long enough, they will end up feeling useless. And that works for both sexes!!!

But if you talk, open up lines of real communication instead of relying on men being able to read your every thought, maybe just maybe you too will be in for a long and happy relationship

JMO


Interesting. As a single girl who have never been married, I'm not complaining from personal experience, but only reflecting what I've heard from girlfriends. When it comes to housework, I would think it is obvious what needs to be done. Me, as a single girl can look around my house and see that laundry or dishes need to be done. I don't need someone telling me that it needs to be done. Now mind you, I'm not talking about the households where the man goes out and works hard and the "little woman" stays at home. I'm talking about both parties that go out and work very hard. Both can come home tired from work. I also don't think there are very women anymore who think men are wimps just because they can do housework. Pehaps the women leave because they get tired of nagging and they are tired from working two jobs.




FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
Zellarrone1: I totally agree with all that you say that men are totally undomesticated and useless at sharing the domestic duties that's why I used to keep all the ones I lived with locked up in my and just let them out for special occassions such as going to work and attending to my womanly needs


rolling on the floor laughing now that's a thought.



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
rizlared: Men can't do right for doing wrong.

If we work all hours to provide a secure and financially sound environment then we are accused of ignoring the "little women".

If we share the household chores we are accused of being a wimp.

Just as a thought, how many women walk away from what was a loving caring marriage because they think the grass is greener else where (I am not talking about those that have cheating/violent spouses etc)

As opposed to how many men leave for the same reason.

Answer that one and maybe you will understand that no one is perfect, men have faults but so do women, if you stop complaining about your men maybe they will feel more respected and an asset to a family, and actually want to help around the home.According to the Citizens Advice Bureau, more women than men become bored and dissatisfied with their marriage, tell someone they are useless for long enough, they will end up feeling useless. And that works for both sexes!!!

But if you talk, open up lines of real communication instead of relying on men being able to read your every thought, maybe just maybe you too will be in for a long and happy relationship

This response has me wondering. If a guy only earns 1/2 the loaf, does that still make him the bread winner?

Luckly, I've been able to see examples of really good marriages and not so good ones. I think communicaton from the start is really important. My parents have been married a little over 50 years and they have a happy marriage. My dad always went to work, and my mom stayed home a cleaned house. Now my sister and brother-in-law also have a happy marriage. They have been married a little over 30 years, but both work outside the home. My brother-in-law does help out around the house. He is definitely not a wimp. If you were to see them together, you would think they were newlyweds. My friends relationship, on the otherhand, I see in trouble. I don't think they have clearly communicated expectations. She works all day and her husband expects her to cook and clean and do all the domestic work when she gets home. He is also asking her for money and wanting her to put some of the things he wants on her charge cards. To me, that isn't right. I don't think either partner should tell each other that they are useless. Perhaps the guy doesn't have very much experience with domestic work. That is where I will show him, how ever many times it takes. I've been doing this since I was 5, so I think this is an area I can say I'm an expert at. Again, it goes back to the mother and her training her sons as well. Everyone should know how to do laundry, dishes, cook etc. and women should know how to change a tire. P.S. this thread is not meant to bash men, but be thougth provoking.


JMO
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FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
This response has me wondering. If a guy only earns 1/2 the loaf, does that still make him the bread winner?

Luckly, I've been able to see examples of really good marriages and not so good ones. I think communicaton from the start is really important. My parents have been married a little over 50 years and they have a happy marriage. My dad always went to work, and my mom stayed home and cleaned house. My sister and brother-in-law also have a happy marriage. They have been married a little over 30 years, but both work outside the home. My brother-in-law does help out around the house. He is definitely not a wimp. If you were to see them together, you would think they were newlyweds. My friends relationship, on the otherhand, seems to be in trouble. I don't think they have clearly communicated their expectations. She works all day and her husband expects her to cook and clean and do all the domestic work when she gets home. He is also asking her for money and has her put some of the things he wants on her charge cards. To me, that isn't right. Also, I don't think either partner should tell each other that they are useless. Perhaps the guy doesn't have very much experience with domestic work. That is where I would show him, how ever many times it took. I've been doing this since I was 5, so I think this is an area I can say I'm an expert at. Again, it goes back to the mother and her training her sons as well. Everyone should know how to do laundry, dishes, cook etc. and women should know how to change a tire. P.S. this thread is not meant to bash men, but be thougth provoking.
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rizlared: Men can't do right for doing wrong.

If we work all hours to provide a secure and financially sound environment then we are accused of ignoring the "little women".

If we share the household chores we are accused of being a wimp.

Just as a thought, how many women walk away from what was a loving caring marriage because they think the grass is greener else where (I am not talking about those that have cheating/violent spouses etc)

As opposed to how many men leave for the same reason.

Answer that one and maybe you will understand that no one is perfect, men have faults but so do women, if you stop complaining about your men maybe they will feel more respected and an asset to a family, and actually want to help around the home.According to the Citizens Advice Bureau, more women than men become bored and dissatisfied with their marriage, tell someone they are useless for long enough, they will end up feeling useless. And that works for both sexes!!!

But if you talk, open up lines of real communication instead of relying on men being able to read your every thought, maybe just maybe you too will be in for a long and happy relationship

JMO
uptall durham, Durham, England UK


Is my dinner on love......shimmy pointing ....bouquet ......wink ....






FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
uptall: Is my dinner on love...... .... ...... ....


<giggle> silver tongue devil.devil



anglophile state, not DC, Washington USA
uptall: Is my dinner on love...... .... ...... ....


Idk. Did you make it yet? rolling on the floor laughing tongue

Since I'm still at work at you're at home now...Look's like you need to get started if you're hungry. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
anglophile: Idk. Did you make it yet?

Since I'm still at work at you're at home now...Look's like you need to get started if you're hungry.


With his sweet talking, he is likely to get a really nice dinner and dessert. lolwine



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France

I'm a single bloke..and I have 3 kids 2girls and a mutt..Ranging from 14-7..

And the person who cooks, cleans does the shopping, washes the dishes etc..is yours turely..I don't need a mother cause i'vr got one and i don't need someone to tell me how to cook or clean the house..

Freedom..most/a lot of blokes are very capable of doing housework and it has noting to do with Mr P fcuking C modern man..Most blokes are looking for a woman to have breakast with over and over and over...

I know just as many women who are bad house keepers and sexist as blokes...If your girl friends have problems with their un-domesticated men..tell them from me .."Hello i'm Johnny Cash.." Anyhow i'm going to sniff around here or on another forum and butter some croissants...



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
phoenix: I'm a single bloke..and I have 3 kids 2girls and a mutt..Ranging from 14-7..

And the person who cooks, cleans does the shopping, washes the dishes etc..is yours turely..I don't need a mother cause i'vr got one and i don't need someone to tell me how to cook or clean the house..

Freedom..most/a lot of blokes are very capable of doing housework and it has noting to do with Mr P fcuking C modern man..Most blokes are looking for a woman to have breakast with over and over and over...

I know just as many women who are bad house keepers and sexist as blokes...If your girl friends have problems with their un-domesticated men..tell them from me .."Hello i'm Johnny Cash.." Anyhow i'm going to sniff around here or on another forum and butter some croissants...


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anglophile state, not DC, Washington USA
phoenix: I'm a single bloke..and I have 3 kids 2girls and a mutt..Ranging from 14-7..

And the person who cooks, cleans does the shopping, washes the dishes etc..is yours turely..I don't need a mother cause i'vr got one and i don't need someone to tell me how to cook or clean the house..

Freedom..most/a lot of blokes are very capable of doing housework and it has noting to do with Mr P fcuking C modern man..Most blokes are looking for a woman to have breakast with over and over and over...

I know just as many women who are bad house keepers and sexist as blokes...If your girl friends have problems with their un-domesticated men..tell them from me .."Hello i'm Johnny Cash.." Anyhow i'm going to sniff around here or on another forum and butter some croissants...


Now throw in a full time job and a husband to sit around watching football and you'll understand a woman's life. You'll also understand after working all day, then coming home to cook, clean, and take care of the kids why a women isn't in the mood for sex. It's already 11 pm and she hasn't had a chance to unwind.

You see single women, when they come home from work the house is still clean just the way they left it. They cook a meal for 1 and clean up a quick and easy. Then they have the whole evening to relax. They are not totally exhausted and are more than willing to have sex.



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France
anglophile: Now throw in a full time job and a husband to sit around watching football and you'll understand a woman's life. You'll also understand after working all day, then coming home to cook, clean, and take care of the kids why a women isn't in the mood for sex. It's already 11 pm and she hasn't had a chance to unwind.


Excuse me but I don't sit around all day..and I do all the cooking, cleaning etc...And if i'm with a woman and she wants sex..even though i've worked all day, cared for my kids..I'll do the buisness..

anglophile: You see single women, when they come home from work the house is still clean just the way they left it.
They cook a meal for 1 and clean up a quick and easy. Then they have the whole evening to relax. They are not totally exhausted and are more than willing to have sex.


Single blokes live the same....and on your point about them (single people) willing to have sex..all depends on how big your sex drive is..





FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
phoenix: Excuse me but I don't sit around all day..and I do all the cooking, cleaning etc...And if i'm with a woman and she wants sex..even though i've worked all day, cared for my kids..I'll do the buisness..



Single blokes live the same....and on your point about them (single people) willing to have sex..all depends on how big your sex drive is..


"willing to do the business." That sounds romantic. rolling on the floor laughing



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France
FreedomLover: "willing to do the business." That sounds romantic.


You can butter it anyway you want but the mods are watching...



anglophile state, not DC, Washington USA
anglophile wrote:
Now throw in a full time job and a husband to sit around watching football and you'll understand a woman's life. You'll also understand after working all day, then coming home to cook, clean, and take care of the kids why a women isn't in the mood for sex. It's already 11 pm and she hasn't had a chance to unwind.


phoenix: Excuse me but I don't sit around all day..and I do all the cooking, cleaning etc...And if i'm with a woman and she wants sex..even though i've worked all day, cared for my kids..I'll do the buisness..



Single blokes live the same....and on your point about them (single people) willing to have sex..all depends on how big your sex drive is..



Sweets, You missed the key words. I was putting you in the woman's shoes.

Now if after working 8 hours, driving home from a long commute, cooking dinner, cleaning the house, and tending to the children you still have the energy to have sex...giggle Then get ready to start handing out your number. teddybear



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
anglophile: anglophile wrote:
Now throw in a full time job and a husband to sit around watching football and you'll understand a woman's life. You'll also understand after working all day, then coming home to cook, clean, and take care of the kids why a women isn't in the mood for sex. It's already 11 pm and she hasn't had a chance to unwind. Sweets, You missed the key words. I was putting you in the woman's shoes.

Now if after working 8 hours, driving home from a long commute, cooking dinner, cleaning the house, and tending to the children you still have the energy to have sex...giggle Then get ready to start handing out your number.


thumbs up He can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan and he will never forget because he's a maaaaan. I know the song was really meant for a woman, but I thought I would change a little. lol



FreedomLover Everett, Washington USA
phoenix: You can butter it anyway you want but the mods are watching...


oh no, not the mods. uh oh The mod squad is out ta get ya. lol



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France
anglophile:


Now if after working 8 hours, driving home from a long commute, cooking dinner, cleaning the house, and tending to the children you still have the energy to have sex....


Yes...I enjoy sex..it's one of my favorite past times..



anglophile state, not DC, Washington USA
FreedomLover: He can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan and he will never forget because he's a maaaaan. I know the song was really meant for a woman, but I thought I would change a little. lol



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