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mike1937 Broadstairs, Kent, England UK
Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:24 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
The childrens Services director MUST have know what was going on

She apparently is NOT a qualkified social worker - SO What *are* her qualifications to hold such a job? My feeling is that they are all bloody parasites in the first place.

The whole Social services Childrens empire should be abolished and the NSPCC should have the same government funding as the local concils do and run the whole thing nationwide with alowable extra donations too as long as they are fully accountable to Parliament.

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THE social workers who failed to save the life of Baby P could lose their jobs after a new probe was launched into the tragedy.

Professional regulators today announced they had begun an investigation into the actions of those involved in the case.

The General Social Care Council, which registers all social workers in England, said it had started "preliminary inquiries" at Haringey council to see if anyone had breached its professional code of practice.

It has the power to admonish them, suspend them for two years or remove them from the register altogether, meaning they could not work anywhere in the country. The move could affect all the Haringey social workers involved in the child's care, including:

? Maria Ward: Repeatedly taken in by the mother's lies. She said Baby P seemed "well" four days before his death.

? Gillie Christou: In charge of the council's child protection register. She approved the boy's return home.

? Sylvia Henry: Took part in the decision to send Baby P back to his mother. She was also accused of lying in the Victoria Climbié case.

It will not affect the council's director of children's services, Sharon Shoesmith, as she is not a registered social worker.

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mickeyscouse London, Inner London, England UK
Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:31 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
professor heads should roll

from the doctors to social workers

they should be charged with
manslaughter
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mike1937 Broadstairs, Kent, England UK
Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:34 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
mickeyscouse: heads should roll

from the doctors to social workers

they should be charged with
manslaughter


I believe a government minister is also invloved in all the buck passing and evasion of reality dating from when the child was born and the head of social services ignored the police special child protection officer's reports when investigating the case who pointed out the fact the mothers partner had plenty of *previous* for sadism, and violence.
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mickeyscouse London, Inner London, England UK
Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:47 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
mike1937: I believe a government minister is also invloved in all the buck passing and evasion of reality dating from when the child was born and the head of social services ignored the police special child protection officer's reports when investigating the case who pointed out the fact the mothers partner had plenty of *previous* for sadism, and violence.


there is sure a lot of buck passing going on at the moment
by people trying to save there jobs

it has been impossible to avoid the story since it surfaced
a week ago i dont want to here the horrors of a tortured
tot but every time i have picked up a newspaper or looked at
the news it has been the main story

you would of thought haringey social services
would of learned from the victoria climbie
horrors 6 years ago

i am disturbed that this has happened again

btw the mother of child p had her identity
protected she is on remand somewere
anyway she is called tracey connelly

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Angel_Diva wales, South Glamorgan, Wales UK
Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:02 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
mickeyscouse: there is sure a lot of buck passing going on at the moment
by people trying to save there jobs

it has been impossible to avoid the story since it surfaced
a week ago i dont want to here the horrors of a tortured
tot but every time i have picked up a newspaper or looked at
the news it has been the main story

you would of thought haringey social services
would of learned from the victoria climbie
horrors 6 years ago

i am disturbed that this has happened again

btw the mother of child p had her identity
protected she is on remand somewere
anyway she is called tracey connelly


good on ya....maybe she will feel the pain Baby P went through once the other jail birds have finished with her.....

as for the b/f....cut off his balls very very very very slowly...in fact pass me the knife...

as for the soical workers...

sod manslaughter....murder...they helped murder that baby.....i couldnt live with my self...so il pass them the rope...and hope they take the hint

very mad very mad very mad very mad very mad very mad very mad

angel crying
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tinaferrara gozo, Gozo Malta
Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:53 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
dont think there is anyway of ever getting justice, when you are dealing with social services and hospitals,when mistakes are made,they close ranks and people lie to save their skins
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Angel_Diva wales, South Glamorgan, Wales UK
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:04 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
tinaferrara: dont think there is anyway of ever getting justice, when you are dealing with social services and hospitals,when mistakes are made,they close ranks and people lie to save their skins


true but it takes only ONE person to stand up and be counted and shout from the roof tops and we all follow...
problem with us in the UK we hate to complain...when we do no buggers quite knows what to do with said person or complait....

My opinion on this....they knew what was happening they just shut their eyes and hoped it would go away...i mean how else can they paid for their liquid lunches etc....... To do paperwork and go see a child in need is sooooo much hard work for the poor wee lambs....bless um....i mean get off ur fat lazy butt and do sommat...nahhhhhh they know not what real work is......

Same with benifits fraud....not one single officer that i know off does spot checks on those claiming benifits......save the tax payer a hell of a lot of money if they did a spot check.....
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mike1937 Broadstairs, Kent, England UK
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:29 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
Angel_Diva: good on ya....maybe she will feel the pain Baby P went through once the other jail birds have finished with her.....

as for the b/f....cut off his balls very very very very slowly...in fact pass me the knife...

as for the soical workers...

sod manslaughter....murder...they helped murder that baby.....i couldnt live with my self...so il pass them the rope...and hope they take the hint


Those are my sentiments too - However it was not direct murder - The *management* on all sides *indirectly* murdered the child by the results of their faulty judgement, appaling incompetence, failure to put the childs needs first and buck passing over the whole of its life and they were fully informed by the police as to what the parent was dioing and the activities of her partner.

The only law that applies in this case is manslughter but I think it should be recommended that they should serve the maximum sentence with no remission.

On the evidence IMO, everyone involved on all sides should have been arrested immediately by special order of the Home Office, charged and brought to court to answer for their actions under trial by by jury in the High Court without any further delay.

BUT due to the stupidity and rediculous state of political correctness we have to suffer now we have no deterrents in law on any matter including murder, that was not the case.
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weatherd Truro Cornwall, Cornwall, England UK
Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:21 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
Hi Mike ,I do agree with you but these people aren`t the only one`s to blame , WE ALL ARE how many baby`s , children , woman , are going through this sort of thing and we the public choose turn away and ignore whats happening all around us , we chat to friends about the woman down the road thats taken enougher beeting from that bloke she with or the child thats being bullied all the time , but thats all we do untill something like this happens then we call for the blood of those people that we can point the finger at and say they aren`t doing their job`s and then we sit back and feel bad for the child thats died which makes us feel also better .
The goverment sit back and love this , let`s turn the clock back to when there were hospitals for people like baby P`s mum`s boyfriend that enjoyed hurting thing`s , on TV last night they said that he use to brake the leg`s of animals for fun . If we can`t put these people away then we should put them down , we need to stop letting the do gooders making the rules and go back to a time when people like this man were hung or put away before they could kill .

LET`S STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER AND ALL JOIN TOGETHER TO STOP THIS ALL OVER THE UK
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mike1937 Broadstairs, Kent, England UK
Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:00 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
weatherd: Hi Mike ,I do agree with you but these people aren`t the only one`s to blame , WE ALL ARE etc etc - and LET`S STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER AND ALL JOIN TOGETHER TO STOP THIS ALL OVER THE UK


Eric, If you are advocating a vigilante force to go at social workers I would be happy becsue the powers that be have not got enough Jails or police resources to stop it happening. IF WE COULD GET ENOUGH SUPPORT - which I doubt because there is s general apathy among the public at large today towards anything so radical.

The only trouble with Rough justice though is that while it would WORK you can bet nowadays some asshole would eventually shop us for the money they got paid by the Powers that be, therfore we have to kleep protesting to MP's and every official we have contact with until we get threatened with arrest like I was in Thanet by social workers just after the Victoria Clambi'e, case when I let rip in public after one insinuated my late father was off his head when he wanted the toilet while in hospital and fouled the bed because nobody would give him a bed pan or take him to the toilet. Then some nasty male nurse verbally abused him in front of my late wife at the meeting to decide if he should be transfererred to a nusrsing home so I went for the whole bloody lot of them.

I told them to put their money where their mouth is if they have the guts and they backed down after I reminded them of Harringey and what happened at the Middlesex hospital and the social workers in Victoria's case being similar to Margate and they got the message that I never back down from any scrap.
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mickeyscouse London, Inner London, England UK
Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:47 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
the people who murdered baby peter were all protected by the courts
so they can remain anonymous untill they are sentenced

but if you google the mother tracey connelly then you find out all there names
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phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France
Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:53 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.


Mike i haven't read any posts on this thread..and subjects like this make my blood boil..but they Social workers involved should go to jail..for life. I'm bowing out here cause it gets me angry thinking about it......
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uglysister kilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:56 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
phoenix: Mike i haven't read any posts on this thread..and subjects like this make my blood boil..but they Social workers involved should go to jail..for life. I'm bowing out here cause it gets me angry thinking about it......



ditto
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stew1 glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:43 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
weatherd: Hi Mike ,I do agree with you but these people aren`t the only one`s to blame , WE ALL ARE how many baby`s , children , woman , are going through this sort of thing and we the public choose turn away and ignore whats happening all around us , we chat to friends about the woman down the road thats taken enougher beeting from that bloke she with or the child thats being bullied all the time , but thats all we do untill something like this happens then we call for the blood of those people that we can point the finger at and say they aren`t doing their job`s and then we sit back and feel bad for the child thats died which makes us feel also better .
The goverment sit back and love this , let`s turn the clock back to when there were hospitals for people like baby P`s mum`s boyfriend that enjoyed hurting thing`s , on TV last night they said that he use to brake the leg`s of animals for fun . If we can`t put these people away then we should put them down , we need to stop letting the do gooders making the rules and go back to a time when people like this man were hung or put away before they could kill .

LET`S STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER AND ALL JOIN TOGETHER TO STOP THIS ALL OVER THE UK

Bring back hanging it's cheaper devil and it resolves a lot of probems efficiently grin grin grin dancing
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mike1937 Broadstairs, Kent, England UK
Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:19 PM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
stew1: Bring back hanging it's cheaper and it resolves a lot of probems efficiently


A bullet and quicklime on Burial in an unmarked gravepit is even cheaper
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uglysister kilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:54 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
mike1937: A bullet and quicklime on Burial in an unmarked gravepit is even cheaper


i have tried to avoid reading anything about this at all, but i gave in and read a couple of articles.................horrific. the thing is we are all sitting here saying (quite rightly ) that heads should roll.............for people like that long painful torture is what id like to do to them.

but i for one feel totally guilty now, what do we as individuals do when something like this happens? we sit back and bay for blood but we dont get off our backsides and do anything constructive. where are we all when the social work dept are calling out for foster parents for unfortunate kids who have had a terrible start in life?? think we all need to a look at ourselves too.
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weatherd Truro Cornwall, Cornwall, England UK
Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:26 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
uglysister: i have tried to avoid reading anything about this at all, but i gave in and read a couple of articles.................horrific. the thing is we are all sitting here saying (quite rightly ) that heads should roll.............for people like that long painful torture is what id like to do to them.

but i for one feel totally guilty now, what do we as individuals do when something like this happens? we sit back and bay for blood but we dont get off our backsides and do anything constructive. where are we all when the social work dept are calling out for foster parents for unfortunate kids who have had a terrible start in life?? think we all need to a look at ourselves too.


I agree with you 100% , i watch a 76yr old woman cry as she read the story in the paper about baby P we have all been touched by him .
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uglysister kilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:32 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
weatherd: I agree with you 100% , i watch a 76yr old woman cry as she read the story in the paper about baby P we have all been touched by him .


yes we have all been touched and no doubt shed a few tears..............and we will do the same the next time it happens because it will. but what do any of us actually do.................bay for blood at the time, then forget about it and get on with our cosy little lives.......................how sad. there are other kids out there who everyday are going through what baby P did......................and we sit pointing the finger at the guilty ones.....................we are all guilty in some form, we all know it happens but we still do nothing.
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weatherd Truro Cornwall, Cornwall, England UK
Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:08 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
uglysister: yes we have all been touched and no doubt shed a few tears..............and we will do the same the next time it happens because it will. but what do any of us actually do.................bay for blood at the time, then forget about it and get on with our cosy little lives.......................how sad. there are other kids out there who everyday are going through what baby P did......................and we sit pointing the finger at the guilty ones.....................we are all guilty in some form, we all know it happens but we still do nothing.

The goverment are to blame past and present , the shutting down of mental hospitals where people like this were put before they could hurt anybody , im sorry if this upsets others but i do beleave that we should turn the clock back and reopen the hospitals and bring back corporal punishment i.e hanging , it make`s me so mad that the law is set up to protect the scum like baby P killers , you are right we do nothing , maybe some sort of vigilantly society is what we need .
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uglysister kilwinning, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:14 AM CST : BAB Y P - Should the Director of Childrens srvices and all involved be sacked.
weatherd: The goverment are to blame past and present , the shutting down of mental hospitals where people like this were put before they could hurt anybody , im sorry if this upsets others but i do beleave that we should turn the clock back and reopen the hospitals and bring back corporal punishment i.e hanging , it make`s me so mad that the law is set up to protect the scum like baby P killers , you are right we do nothing , maybe some sort of vigilantly society is what we need .


i dont agree with a vigilante society........................this is about the kids and how we should try to do something to help the tots who day in day out suffer this sort of treatment. thats the problem with some people..................hell bent on revenge when its the kids we should be concentrating on.
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