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sallyo gosford, New South Wales Australia
hey....how many times does a woman have to be hurt b 4 she learns he just not that into me



sparksie Sydney, New South Wales Australia
sallyo: hey....how many times does a woman have to be hurt b 4 she learns he just not that into me


Hi Sallyo........ Sooooo..... what's all this about? confused
InkedHeart Whangarei, Northland New Zealand
sallyo: hey....how many times does a woman have to be hurt b 4 she learns he just not that into me


you don't count them but usually on 2nd time you should have known .. but then you were probably blind and deaf at that time dunno

then it just kept getting repeated coz you let it happenuh oh

but realistically .. wake up and smell the roses doh

JMO!!!



sasseez lakes entrance, Victoria Australia
lol darl, we gals have a way of doing it everytime but i think i have finally come to my senses. Its coz we wish for it to work so bad and we hope things will change, we see the gud in ppl instead of the negative all the time , but yes we have to learn to say ok thats it im ova it.



virgiomonkey Auckland, Auckland New Zealand
sallyo: hey....how many times does a woman have to be hurt b 4 she learns he just not that into me


hey....how many times does a 'Man' have to be hurt before 'He' learns 'She' just not that into me.......works both ways........Its not only 'Men'.......plenty of Woman players out there as well.......All the best to you...handshake
InkedHeart Whangarei, Northland New Zealand
virgiomonkey: hey....how many times does a 'Man' have to be hurt before 'He' learns 'She' just not that into me.......works both ways........Its not only 'Men'.......plenty of Woman players out there as well.......All the best to you...


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virgiomonkey Auckland, Auckland New Zealand
InkedHeart: you don't count them but usually on 2nd time you should have known .. but then you were probably blind and deaf at that time

then it just kept getting repeated coz you let it happen

but realistically .. wake up and smell the roses

JMO!!!


thumbs up .....And that goes for both 'Men' and 'Woman'......good 'straight up' and No 'Bull shit' Advice........ hug handshake
InkedHeart Whangarei, Northland New Zealand
virgiomonkey: .....And that goes for both 'Men' and 'Woman'......good 'straight up' and No 'Bull shit' Advice........


hug thanks for that JD kiss

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Butterflyboo1974 Mid North COast, New South Wales Australia
The more oftren we are hurt... the more often we search for that person who will not hurt us.... but then we are hurt because of our expectations..... it i a vicious cycle....

A never ending search for a soul mate.... for someone to make us 'complete', and someone who will accept us for who we are...


I recently had a huge wake up call... marriage broke down 2.3 years ago.... started thinking about 'moving on' six months ago... and now.... well had my heart broken all over again....

That which we must endure will make us stronger....


Hang in there....

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virgiomonkey Auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Butterflyboo1974: The more oftren we are hurt... the more often we search for that person who will not hurt us.... but then we are hurt because of our expectations..... it i a vicious cycle....

A never ending search for a soul mate.... for someone to make us 'complete', and someone who will accept us for who we are...I recently had a huge wake up call... marriage broke down 2.3 years ago.... started thinking about 'moving on' six months ago... and now.... well had my heart broken all over again....

That which we must endure will make us stronger....Hang in there....


.........Yes....sometimes 'Love' can really Hurt....both in Men and Woman....I agree,hang in there and don't lose hope.... handshake peace sad flower
UrbanYeti Adelaide, South Australia Australia
Butterflyboo1974: The more oftren we are hurt... the more often we search for that person who will not hurt us.... but then we are hurt because of our expectations..... it i a vicious cycle....

A never ending search for a soul mate.... for someone to make us 'complete', and someone who will accept us for who we are...I recently had a huge wake up call... marriage broke down 2.3 years ago.... started thinking about 'moving on' six months ago... and now.... well had my heart broken all over again....

That which we must endure will make us stronger....Hang in there....


Y-ellow All.
The trick, I think, is to enter these things by treating every moment as a new adventure. Every adventure may, or maynot have a faery tale ending but unless you start climbing the mountain, you'll never know what's up there.

Don't leave your heart out where it can be stolen. A real lover won't steal your heart, he/she will cherish it in situe. So that it will be right where they left it the next time.

All adventurers are a little pesemistic. They don't know if they'll reach the summet of the mountain but they know there's a good chance. They also know the skills required. They may not get there and have to try again or move on to a new mountain but if they do reach the summet, then the view is always beyond expectations.

Love, like life it self, is all a big adventure. Cherish the good and learn from the bad. And Always, ALWAYS walk with a smile. Someone just might smile back. And that will get you from one mountain to the next.

Hope this helps.

be absolutely Icebox.
That Evil Yeti guy.devil
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
UrbanYeti: Y-ellow All.
The trick, I think, is to enter these things by treating every moment as a new adventure. Every adventure may, or maynot have a faery tale ending but unless you start climbing the mountain, you'll never know what's up there.

Don't leave your heart out where it can be stolen. A real lover won't steal your heart, he/she will cherish it in situe. So that it will be right where they left it the next time.

All adventurers are a little pesemistic. They don't know if they'll reach the summet of the mountain but they know there's a good chance. They also know the skills required. They may not get there and have to try again or move on to a new mountain but if they do reach the summet, then the view is always beyond expectations.

Love, like life it self, is all a big adventure. Cherish the good and learn from the bad. And Always, ALWAYS walk with a smile. Someone just might smile back. And that will get you from one mountain to the next.

Hope this helps.

be absolutely Icebox.
That Evil Yeti guy.


I think this is the problem Butterfly was referring to.. you have to make yourself vulnerable and put your heart on the line to find out if a person is a 'real lover' who will cherish your heart.. to use your words and in this process that heart gets broken.. sometimes time and time again ..

and... what you wrote sounded lovely and very poetic ... but to me its a fairytale.. real life is not so lovely .. well in my experience anyway ...

just my humble opinion wine
UrbanYeti Adelaide, South Australia Australia
blondeaozichick: I think this is the problem Butterfly was referring to.. you have to make yourself vulnerable and put your heart on the line to find out if a person is a 'real lover' who will cherish your heart.. to use your words and in this process that heart gets broken.. sometimes time and time again ..

and... what you wrote sounded lovely and very poetic ... but to me its a fairytale.. real life is not so lovely .. well in my experience anyway ...

just my humble opinion


Y-ellow Blondeaozichick 'n' all.
Absolutely. I'd been vulnerable most of my life. But I realized I don't have to be. There's a very good book called "Who's pulling yoru strings?" by one Harriet B Braiker PhD. It's basically about manipulation. How people are manipulated by others. The bottom line however is that whilst you might be railing against a manipulative person who constantly breaks your heart to enforce their will upon you, it is you who actually allows them to do it. If you did not play your role in the game, they would not be able to play you.

You need to have a strategy to break this cycle of course. And that is the tricky part. AND perhaps more importantly, you have to be prepared to lose that person, that relationship entirely.

Having said that, A skillfully manipulative person is only hanging around you because they CAN manipulate you easily. The moment you get wise, that person will move on to a softer target. It's what manipulative people do. As soon as you refuse to take the bait, it all becomes too hard for them. Because the bottom line with a manipulative person is that they are weak willed cowards who's only charge in life is getting the thrill out of enforcing their will over others.

And I can tell you, I've known a few good ones in my time. (If that's not an oxymoron?)

In fact, truth be known, I'm currently a carer for a bonefied "Charismatic Psychopath." You get very good at spotting the manipulations.

And that's what it comes down to. No-one who cares is going to break your heart. Not deliberately anyway. And if you're hardened against these things, those types who would, will move on pretty quickly. Long before they get a chance to break your heart.

Well, that's the theory anyway. Bare in mind that there are people out there who are very very good at this stuff and there will always be someone who'll take you by surprise. But! more likely, you're going to meet the kind of people who either A, are going to move on quickly to a softer target, or B will appologize profusely should they accidently hurt you.

The latter are genuine. The former are not and you could do without them in your life.

The trick is, to understand the risks when you go into it. To also understand the bottom line of what you'll get out of it even if it all goes awry.

And if it does. At least you can say. "Hey I had a good time... Jerk!"

Because, as the tag-line for the movie "Muriel's wedding" says.

"The best revenge is to live well."

I know it's hard. I've blown a vast proportion of my life being puppeted by heartbreakers and manipulters. I've probably not got a great deal of useful life left. But I'm not letting those "Bastards and bitches." take what little, I've got left as well. I may never find true love. But I intend upon having as much fun as I can trying.

Now I'm off to invite my little Chinese friend to lunch. Wish me luck. grin

And, just out of being pragmatic and hopefully helpful, if anyone is immediately desperate for that book and can't find it, (Or afford it.) email me privately.

Hope this helps.

be absolutely Icebox.
That Evil Yeti Guy devil
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
UrbanYeti: Y-ellow Blondeaozichick 'n' all.
Absolutely. I'd been vulnerable most of my life. But I realized I don't have to be. There's a very good book called "Who's pulling yoru strings?" by one Harriet B Braiker PhD. It's basically about manipulation. How people are manipulated by others.

The bottom line however is that whilst you might be railing against a manipulative person who constantly breaks your heart to enforce their will upon you, it is you who actually allows them to do it. If you did not play your role in the game, they would not be able to play you.

You need to have a strategy to break this cycle of course. And that is the tricky part. AND perhaps more importantly, you have to be prepared to lose that person, that relationship entirely.

Having said that, A skillfully manipulative person is only hanging around you because they CAN manipulate you easily. The moment you get wise, that person will move on to a softer target. It's what manipulative people do. As soon as you refuse to take the bait, it all becomes too hard for them. Because the bottom line with a manipulative person is that they are weak willed cowards who's only charge in life is getting the thrill out of enforcing their will over others.

I know it's hard. I've blown a vast proportion of my life being puppeted by heartbreakers and manipulters. I've probably not got a great deal of useful life left. But I'm not letting those "Bastards and bitches." take what little, I've got left as well. I may never find true love. But I intend upon having as much fun as I can trying.

Now I'm off to invite my little Chinese friend to lunch. Wish me luck.


1. Totally agree ... people allow it..

2. sadly not all people are at a place where they are strong enough mentally and or emotionally to either a. recognise it or b. walk away. I can spot them a million miles away and as I get older I have gained skills that allow me to either avoid them like the plague or to stand up to them and basically say.. 'get f*cked arsehole'.. not everyone can

3 . again I totally agree .. they are spineless cowards alright.. as all manipulative, controlling people are

4. just trust that karma CAN be a real bitch at times so those people will eventually get their just desserts laugh

the book sounds interesting thumbs up if I ever come across it, I will grab it

oh... and enjoy your chinese lunch wink laugh
UrbanYeti Adelaide, South Australia Australia
Y-ellow Blondeaozichick 'n' All.
blondeaozichick: 1. Totally agree ... people allow it..

2. sadly not all people are at a place where they are strong enough mentally and or emotionally to either a. recognise it or b. walk away. I can spot them a million miles away and as I get older I have gained skills that allow me to either avoid them like the plague or to stand up to them and basically say.. 'get f*cked arsehole'.. not everyone can


Yup. This is the central problem. Not only that, but as good as we think we are at dealing with it, there will always be someone better at it than we realized. But the fact remains that if you confront someone with it and they exit your life, you're better off anyway. If they apologize and tell you they didn't realize and genuinely try to change their ways, then they're worth hanging onto. Caveat being that a consummate manipulator will do that too. Only to regroup and try a new tact. 3 strikes you're out. In some cases just 2.


blondeaozichick: 4. just trust that karma CAN be a real bitch at times so those people will eventually get their just desserts


In that case, the asswipes that stole my bike are going to get such a chancre sore.very mad

blondeaozichick: the book sounds interesting if I ever come across it, I will grab it


It makes for a good tuneup

blondeaozichick: oh... and enjoy your chinese lunch


Thankyou. It was wonderful. We had a great time. She was so blown away. I love putting smiles on faces.grin

Be absolutely Icebox.
That Evil Yeti Guy devil



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