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hollandgirl Okanagan Valley B.C. Canada, British Columbia Canada
Australian Refugee V's Aged Pensioners










Dear Almost Pensioners,The following is very interesting.




Are you aware of the following?

The Australian Federal Government provides the following financial assistance:-

BENEFIT
AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA

Weekly allowance
$253.00 pensioners
$472.50 refugees

Weekly Spouse allowance
$56.00 pensioners
$472.50 refugees

Additional weekly hardship allowance
$0.00 pensioners
$145.00 refugees





TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT
$16,068.00 pensioners
$56,680.00 refugees






If I was a refugee, why would I look for work?
Please forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for an increase in the aged pension.
After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country
for the last 40 – 60 years.. Stand up for the pensioners....YOU WILL BE ONE SOONER THAN YOU THINK!!!!
















hollandgirl Okanagan Valley B.C. Canada, British Columbia Canada
Hi Guys a friend in Australia asked me to do this.
I am not on much anymore.

You ALL I hope scream loudly about this.
Jenny
redozichick Brisbane, Queensland Australia
hollandgirl: Australian Refugee V's Aged Pensioners

Dear Almost Pensioners,The following is very interesting.

Are you aware of the following?

The Australian Federal Government provides the following financial assistance:-

BENEFIT
AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA

Weekly allowance
$253.00 pensioners
$472.50 refugees

Weekly Spouse allowance
$56.00 pensioners
$472.50 refugees

Additional weekly hardship allowance
$0.00 pensioners
$145.00 refugees





TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT
$16,068.00 pensioners
$56,680.00 refugees






If I was a refugee, why would I look for work?
Please forward to all your contacts so that we can lobby for an increase in the aged pension.
After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country
for the last 40 – 60 years.. Stand up for the pensioners....YOU WILL BE ONE SOONER THAN YOU THINK!!!!
It's not FAIR is itfrustrated
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
This is crap !!!!next thing people will be blowing them up
sheesh this is the internet doh



Minister for Human Services, Senator Joe Ludwig, has used National Refugee Week to urge people not to become victims of an internet-based misinformation campaign that makes false claims about refugee entitlements.


The myth
The baseless claims try to create confusion and discontent, alleging that refugees in Australia receive significantly more financial support than age pensioners.

“These claims are completely false and deliberately try to divide our community by gutter wedge politics”.

The campaign, which operates through the internet, emails, blogs and chat rooms, claims that refugees receive $2,500 in welfare payments each month and suggests senior Australians would be better off as refugees.

“The claims have been repeated in numerous media stories over the past year and the urban legend even has its own Wikipedia page outlining the campaign’s origins in Canada and the United States.

“I’m very disappointed people are continuing to perpetuate these myths – it’s only causing unnecessary concern and angst among both refugee groups and age pensioners.

The facts
Senator Ludwig said refugees to Australia do not receive higher rates of payment than age pensioners.

“In fact, there are no separate rates of payment for refugees and they are not eligible for more assistance from Centrelink than any other customer,” said Senator Ludwig.

“As with any Centrelink customer, the rate of payments available to a refugee depends upon individual circumstances. As an example, a refugee who qualifies for Age Pension, would receive exactly the same rate as an Australian citizen whose income, assets and relationship circumstances were the same.

“I would encourage anyone who receives these messages to reply and tell the sender they have been the victim of a hoax.”

National Refugee week
“These deliberately false allegations also detract from the spirit of National Refugee Week, a time to reflect on the challenges faced by those forced to flee their own countries, hoping to find a better life here in Australia.

Senator Ludwig said Centrelink would continue to play a key role in helping refugees establish new lives and a secure home in Australia.

National Refugee Week (June 15-June 21) is this year themed “A Place to Call Home”. Since the end of World War II Australia has provided a safe haven to more than 700,000 refugees

“It’s never easy to pack up and start a new life in a country where you don’t know the language or culture, even more so if you’ve suffered torture and trauma.

“Centrelink and its teams of specialist such as the Refugee Servicing Team and Multicultural Service Officers understand the challenges faced by refugees. Many of these officers have themselves arrived in Australia as refugees from war-torn countries.

“They work closely with a range of Government and community based organisations to help refugees make their transition into Australia easier.

“Centrelink offers immediate access to support payments and services including interpreters, social workers, psychologists, a Multilingual Call Centre, multilingual fact sheets and brochures in nearly 70 different languages as well as access to English language and literacy classes. Centrelink plays a key role in assisting refugees to find employment”.

For more information about the Refugee Servicing Team or any of Centrelink’s assistance to Multicultural Australians go to www.centrelink.gov.au, call 13 1202, or see the staff at your local Centrelink Customer Service Centre.


maybe do some reasearch before assuming everything that lands in your inbox is truth

Kizzywine
redozichick Brisbane, Queensland Australia
kizzy27: This is crap !!!!next thing people will be blowing them up

Kizzy
Phewsigh thankgod for that then.. I wasn't looking forward to getting old as it waslaugh



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
kizzy27: This is crap !!!!next thing people will be blowing them up
sheesh this is the internet
Minister for Human Services, Senator Joe Ludwig, has used National Refugee Week to urge people not to become victims of an internet-based misinformation campaign that makes false claims about refugee entitlements. The myth
The baseless claims try to create confusion and discontent, alleging that refugees in Australia receive significantly more financial support than age pensioners.

“These claims are completely false and deliberately try to divide our community by gutter wedge politics”.

The campaign, which operates through the internet, emails, blogs and chat rooms, claims that refugees receive $2,500 in welfare payments each month and suggests senior Australians would be better off as refugees.

“The claims have been repeated in numerous media stories over the past year and the urban legend even has its own Wikipedia page outlining the campaign’s origins in Canada and the United States.

“I’m very disappointed people are continuing to perpetuate these myths – it’s only causing unnecessary concern and angst among both refugee groups and age pensioners.

The facts
Senator Ludwig said refugees to Australia do not receive higher rates of payment than age pensioners.

“In fact, there are no separate rates of payment for refugees and they are not eligible for more assistance from Centrelink than any other customer,” said Senator Ludwig.

“As with any Centrelink customer, the rate of payments available to a refugee depends upon individual circumstances. As an example, a refugee who qualifies for Age Pension, would receive exactly the same rate as an Australian citizen whose income, assets and relationship circumstances were the same.

“I would encourage anyone who receives these messages to reply and tell the sender they have been the victim of a hoax.”

National Refugee week
“These deliberately false allegations also detract from the spirit of National Refugee Week, a time to reflect on the challenges faced by those forced to flee their own countries, hoping to find a better life here in Australia.

Senator Ludwig said Centrelink would continue to play a key role in helping refugees establish new lives and a secure home in Australia.

National Refugee Week (June 15-June 21) is this year themed “A Place to Call Home”. Since the end of World War II Australia has provided a safe haven to more than 700,000 refugees

“It’s never easy to pack up and start a new life in a country where you don’t know the language or culture, even more so if you’ve suffered torture and trauma.

“Centrelink and its teams of specialist such as the Refugee Servicing Team and Multicultural Service Officers understand the challenges faced by refugees. Many of these officers have themselves arrived in Australia as refugees from war-torn countries.

“They work closely with a range of Government and community based organisations to help refugees make their transition into Australia easier.

“Centrelink offers immediate access to support payments and services including interpreters, social workers, psychologists, a Multilingual Call Centre, multilingual fact sheets and brochures in nearly 70 different languages as well as access to English language and literacy classes. Centrelink plays a key role in assisting refugees to find employment”.

For more information about the Refugee Servicing Team or any of Centrelink’s assistance to Multicultural Australians go to www.centrelink.gov.au, call 13 1202, or see the staff at your local Centrelink Customer Service Centre.maybe do some reasearch before assuming everything that lands in your inbox is truth

Kizzy


yes kizz i didnt think it was correct...i do however beleive the aged pension should be increased.....wine
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
rocketqueen: yes kizz i didnt think it was correct...i do however beleive the aged pension should be increased.....


Im all for that too Rq Lets just not incite predjuduce and resentment agaist other to achieve that,
Im all for giving the pollies a pay cut to fund a pension rate rise .
Kizzy
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
kizzy27: next thing people will be blowing them up


Damn right. drinking
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
bourbon: Damn right.



I thought that email had Bourbon stink alll ova it ....cool
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
kizzy27: I thought that email had Bourbon stink alll ova it ....


You quoted from a politician who says don't believe the email. Would you believe a politician? laugh



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
bourbon: Damn right.


we are so fortunate, that the indigenous peoples gave up THEIR LANDS so we could live togethor......then we abused that trust and tried to assimilate them......

i see it as a compliment to our way of life that people want to live here......

and if you have a problem with it, then perhaps the aborigines shoulda sent the first 'load of boat people' back......doh
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
bourbon: You quoted from a politician who says don't believe the email. Would you believe a politician?



Good point ,I suppose we shall have to wait & see if new BMWs are delivered to the refugee detention centres around the country then we shall know for sure ....roll eyes laugh



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
bourbon: You quoted from a politician who says don't believe the email. Would you believe a politician?


over you????? YES!!!!!!!laugh
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
rocketqueen: we are so fortunate, that the indigenous peoples gave up THEIR LANDS so we could live togethor......then we abused that trust and tried to assimilate them......

i see it as a compliment to our way of life that people want to live here......

and if you have a problem with it, then perhaps the aborigines shoulda sent the first 'load of boat people' back......


I don't have a problem with people wanting to live here... it's the queue jumping boat people that I have a problem with. drinking
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
kizzy27: Good point ,I suppose we shall have to wait & see if new BMWs are delivered to the refugee detention centres around the country then we shall know for sure ....


Apparently they're getting Alpha's now. wink



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
bourbon: I don't have a problem with people wanting to live here... it's the queue jumping boat people that I have a problem with.


mmmmm......afghanistan...no australian/american/uk embassy closed for business......

iraq........mmm......same again........

north korea????????.........sorry same again!!

oh and the ol, well they came from indonesia business.....well..
they have trouble getting passed from there as they arent citizens FROM INDONESIA,and if found out they are in indonesia illegally WILL GET DEPORTED BACK HOME! even in other countries, the australian embassy has to play by that countries rules.................

(you see bourbs, you have to be escaping your country due to fear of persecution, and going adrift out to sea in not much more than a tinny, shows to me how desperate people are AND how grateful they will be when/if they get citizenship)wine
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
bourbon: I don't have a problem with people wanting to live here... it's the queue jumping boat people that I have a problem with.


This thread isnt about queue jumpers or boat people Its about people who have earned refugee status recieving more goverment assistance than pensioners.

If you check out the centrelink link youll see that the pollie in question is telling the truth that the email is a hoax designed to prejudice people further against the refugees in this country

but then again
carry on if you must drinking
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
rocketqueen: mmmmm......afghanistan...no australian/american/uk embassy closed for business......

iraq........mmm......same again........

north korea????????.........sorry same again!!

oh and the ol, well they came from indonesia business.....well..
they have trouble getting passed from there as they arent citizens FROM INDONESIA,and if found out they are in indonesia illegally WILL GET DEPORTED BACK HOME! even in other countries, the australian embassy has to play by that countries rules.................

(you see bourbs, you have to be escaping your country due to fear of persecution, and going adrift out to sea in not much more than a tinny, shows to me how desperate people are AND how grateful they will be when/if they get citizenship)


They can claim asylum in Indonesia. drinking

If you are truly escaping your country for fear of persecution, you'd claim asylum in the first country you got to. doh
bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
kizzy27: This thread isnt about queue jumpers or boat people Its about people who have earned refugee status recieving more goverment assistance than pensioners.

If you check out the centrelink link youll see that the pollie in question is telling the truth that the email is a hoax designed to prejudice people further against the refugees in this country

but then again
carry on if you must


So typical of miss kizzy... letting the facts get in the way of a good argument. frustrated



rocketqueen geelong, Victoria Australia
bourbon: They can claim asylum in Indonesia.

If you are truly escaping your country for fear of persecution, you'd claim asylum in the first country you got to.



Updated April 20, 2009 11:11:59
Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono says he'll work closely with Australia to tackle the influx of migrants.

Mr Yudhoyono and Kevin Rudd shared a telephone conversation on Sunday in which they talked about the dramatic increase in arrivals from countries like Afghanistan, Burma and Sri Lanka. Indonesia has long been a transit country for those hoping to seek asylum in Australia. Sixty-eight Afghan migrants were arrested in Indonesia on Friday as they prepared to depart for Australia, the second group in recent months.

Presenter: Jonanna McCarthy
Speaker: Professor Mary Crock, Professor of Public Law at the University of Sydney
Listen: Windows Media
CROCK: It's something that Australia has to do. The difference is that we're not asking Indonesia to process these asylum seekers for us. By the way, when you talk about influx of migrants, we're actually talking here about people who historically are known to be refugees so I think that's something that has to be put on the table. It's not the same as the Pacific solution. This is a problem that affects the whole region and it's something that I think the Australian Government has to work with countries in the region to solve.

McCARTHY: Well Indonesia, of course, is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention, so what level of protection does it offer those who are fleeing persecution?

CROCK: At the moment what's happening is that the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has set up a base in Indonesia and so when people are identified by Indonesia as irregular entrants, they are referred to UNHCR for processing and that's something that started under the previous government, Australian Government, and it's something that's continued. I think what the Australians have to do is to try and encourage Indonesia to become a party to the Convention. At the same time, we have to work together to try and find solutions for these people.




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