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Why do some people find it necessary to lie?




bourbon
Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:00 AM CST
There's a few people on this site who suffer from MPD (Multiple Profile Disorder), but I wouldn't think that drags would be one of them. confused

It aint that easy to sort the wheat from the chaff drinking
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dragondog4
Hastings, Hawkes Bay New Zealand
Posted: May 5, 2008, 1:57 PM CST
kempi47 wrote:
one other thing sam read the post for almost 36 melbourne victoria and the post for dragon4 hasting n.z i believe they are written by the same hand so even in debate you have those that hid behind a facade(as both like to say)haha...go with your head girl and release your heart slowly and you will get what you want



Well Kempi. I could come on here swinging left and rights and call you every name under the sun.

But I will admit Almost 36 does have a similar writing style to myself. But I can assure you we are not the same person. I have met a couple of people off this site and they may or may not come to my defence.

But you accusing me of something that you have no proof of is not going to help me at all in the dating game and attracting females.

As a bit of background to you. I have been part of this site for near on 18 months. I had my own thread for nigh on ten months called "The King of the Aussie Forums" I haven't caused any trouble here in all that time. Something the other regulars will vouch for.

I've seen it Happen But I haven't made it happen.

So please no more aspertions from you please. It was coincidence only.
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cutypie
auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Posted: May 5, 2008, 9:44 PM CST
Hey Andrew
I will vouch for your sincerity and being a real human beinggrin

Though I am Lucy in the sky with Diamonds.....daisy daisy daisy
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dragondog4
Hastings, Hawkes Bay New Zealand
Posted: May 5, 2008, 10:12 PM CST
cutypie wrote:
Hey Andrew
I will vouch for your sincerity and being a real human being

Though I am Lucy in the sky with Diamonds.....


Thanks Cutie. I knew I had supporters.
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cutypie
auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Posted: May 5, 2008, 10:15 PM CST
Yes your one good true dagg!applause
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: May 5, 2008, 10:30 PM CST
kempi47 wrote:
one other thing sam read the post for almost 36 melbourne victoria and the post for dragon4 hasting n.z i believe they are written by the same hand so even in debate you have those that hid behind a facade(as both like to say)haha...go with your head girl and release your heart slowly and you will get what you want



All of two posts and you already think you know who's who. rolling eyes

So who are you? Are you real?

I find your post to be rather distasteful in it's nature and would encourage you to retract it and apologise.

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cutypie
auckland, Auckland New Zealand
Posted: May 5, 2008, 10:42 PM CST
Bourbs onto itgrin

Intls really really bad for MPD........thumbs up
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Posted: May 11, 2008, 8:38 PM CST
I'll tell you my story, I have found it necessary to lie because everybody has a dream of who they want to find and they only look at the category that has the highest probability of finding their dream. They don't look at the fringes of their search criteria since the numbers just aren't there to have the higher chances of success. I don't blame them, I do the same thing, it's called targeting the masses. You shoot for what will give you the highest chance of success with the least effort. My lie, although short lived is still a lie and I hate to have to do it, but I feel I will live a childless life if I don't do it so I'm forced into doing something that I am totally against to achieve the one dream that I hold uppermost in my life. I am one of the most honest people you will ever find, but I fell I have to lie about my age if I ever will have any chance of finding someone to have children with on a site like this. There is maybe one quarter of one percent (just a guess, but an educated guess) of the women that still can and want to have children that will look at a man that is 53, because again about 1/4 of a percent of the 53 year old men want children. The percentages of success just aren't there and there is no good reason for them ( the woman that still want to have children) to look there. I'm the needle in the haystack, and I have to get myself out of that haystack and into the manager, So I have to lie about my age and then hope that after they read about me they will understand why I did it and then decide, yes he is older than what I think I want, but he sounds like such a great guy, I'll talk to him. I tell the truth about my age and explain this reasoning in the text of my profile, so anybody that reads about me learns about it and why I feel I have to do it. I want kids, I have always wanted kids, life without kids is not life in my opinion, so I have decided, I have to do this even though it goes against all I stand for. I have been thrown off multiple times, the singles site POF due to this, They found out that I lied because I posted a thing just like this, and the people that run the site can't see why I need to lie, poof, my profile is gone. I see no reason to post a profile with my true age, to me that is absolutely useless, I have about zero chance of a profile like that finding a person that I need to find in order for me to live my dream of raising a family. That to me is what a union of the man and woman is supposed to do, nothing else comes even close. There are plenty of other things that are good about such a union but that is number one, it is what we are put on earth to do. Propagate the species, and hopefully improve it while we are at it, I believe we are practicing reverse natural selection, (another long and controversial topic to discuss) the dumb people of the earth have 10 kids the smart ones, maybe 2. I would make an excellent father, I am so sure of that, I have decided that I will sail a sailboat around the world searching for a woman that can see the good in me. Unfortunately most modern people are too short sighted and make a selection using a totally vain thing, as the number of years somebody has been on the earth. Does that do any thing to determine the quality of a person, if any thing older might be better, but advertising has brained washed us and that is forced down our throat everywhere we look, it continues to teach us preservation of youth is the number one goal. I believe in eastern Europe advertising isn't as prevalent and I will have better success. In the far east, I think age is worshipped and again my chances are improved. Wish me luck.

It was too long so I cut some will post it below (when there is a will there is a way)
EngineeringChic wrote:


And personally looks come second to brains. I am not a looks person, you can ask any of my family members, lol. Mental stimulation is the go.

Sam
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Posted: May 11, 2008, 8:42 PM CST
jheldatksuedu wrote:

It was too long so I cut some will post it below (when there is a will there is a way)



Is a youthful partner more important the the quality of the person? It sure seems that is what the average American thinks. I have trouble with this myself, because here I seek youth, but I would not if I could find a 53 year old that still could have and wanted children. At least that's how I justify it. Am I the pot calling the kettle black? I feel I have been not forced to grow up because I have not raised a family so I still have many youthful attributes, wanderlust, travel, active, devil may care attitude about things.

OK I'll put up my shields, let fly with the rebuttals.

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dragondog4
Hastings, Hawkes Bay New Zealand
Posted: May 11, 2008, 10:27 PM CST
JHELDATKSUEDU: In short i don't agree with you.

But My Opinion means diddly and how you go about it is totally up to you.


What I want to discuss is your sentence That to me is what a union of the man and woman is supposed to do, nothing else comes even close. There are plenty of other things that are good about such a union but that is number one, it is what we are put on earth to do.

Surely you don't really see it this black and white. Or else we may as well be like animals and when the female comes into season we fight each other for the right to mate.

Marriage and a partnership should be for everything but Raising Children. If that contract is sound and both couples are willing, Only then should you contemplate bringing children into the world. We are Humans. We are a communal creature. We find it hard to live solo. Hence towns Bars Factories Forums teams clubs. Whatever it takes to interact with someone at some point of our day.

Marriage is that bonding with one special person saying I will be with you for life. So you won't ever be lonely. So that you will never have to fend for yourself. So that you will never have to suffer on your own.

I don't believe we EVER get married just so we can have kids. Kids are a lifetime responsibility. And due to this the decision to have kids should never be taken lightly. And because of the burden (Meant in a nice good way)that children are, Society (The bigger Human Community, Our leaders and Spiritual advisers) deemed it necessary for us to be married before having kids. And so it should be, as far as I'm concerned.

BUT

Thats not why we get Married.



P.S. I do agree though, with what you went on to say about our reverse natural selection. I wonder the same about the third world countries with the charities constantly looking for funds.

Now there is an option for you if your that keen. Take your yacht to a war torn third world country. Walk into a village and start helping out. The children will flock to a stranger. If your a good man you will get your opportunity to raise a child and show them love. Well if the TV adverts are true. It may not be your own but its still a child who needs love.
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kizzy27
Nowra, New South Wales Australia
Posted: May 12, 2008, 3:30 AM CST
kempi47 wrote:
one other thing sam read the post for almost 36 melbourne victoria and the post for dragon4 hasting n.z i believe they are written by the same hand so even in debate you have those that hid behind a facade(as both like to say)haha...go with your head girl and release your heart slowly and you will get what you want


Hey didnt I see you on POF & RSVP&, love match????

Were you not "Mr Dontknowmyassififellovait"
"Mr Dontaskmeimanidiot"
& my favorite Mr " Ithinkigottayaallfigurredout"

Mmmmm ....Thought so....

Your ok dragz
JMO Kizzy lips
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kizzy27
Nowra, New South Wales Australia
Posted: May 12, 2008, 5:13 AM CST
jheldatksuedu, Families come in alot of different packages,There are alot of children in the world without fathers in their lives ,I think perhaps some woman feel that an older man may not have the patience at say 68 to deal with a teenager playing hard rock or heavymetal blaring, going thru all the things teens do ...Even if at 53 you have the patience for a crying infant four times a night ,us girls think like that ,we think about the big picture ,down the track etc,Im not saying here that you wont meet a young woman who will love you & want to bare your child Im just saying perhaps you should think about the real aspect of being a father ,its not just biological ,being a father is so very much more ,Its imparting knowledge,teaching honour,Sharing laughter,tears ,giving praise ,being a positive influence,but most of all loving & recieving all this in return .
Best of luck & I feel your lie is definatley forgivable
Kizzy
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: May 12, 2008, 5:27 AM CST
kizzy27 wrote:
Hey didnt I see you on POF & RSVP&, love match????

Were you not "Mr Dontknowmyassififellovait"
"Mr Dontaskmeimanidiot"
& my favorite Mr " Ithinkigottayaallfigurredout"

Mmmmm ....Thought so....

Your ok dragz
JMO Kizzy



Funny, haven't seen much of him on the site, let alone this thread. rolling eyes

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belle72
Brisbane, Queensland Australia
Posted: May 12, 2008, 6:38 AM CST
Is a Fib, the same as a lieinnocent
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dragondog4
Hastings, Hawkes Bay New Zealand
Posted: May 12, 2008, 3:31 PM CST
belle72 wrote:
Is a Fib, the same as a lie


Its all in the eye of the beholder.

I'm a Starting line Quarter Back. Abs you can play tunes on. Physique to leave most drueling, And a voice that will melt legs.

Its just a little fib but it makes me feel good. And one day I may meet someone who believes me.

A lie is a lie. Some hurt some don't. You will accept the situation and reasons or not.

As I stated before. Its not lieing thats wrong it is how it is applied. If someone gets hurt by it then its wrong. Lying about ones age isn't wrong. No one gets hurt by it. But anyone who exagerates is always going to be hard to believe.
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Posted: May 16, 2008, 7:55 AM CST
kizzy27 wrote:
Its imparting knowledge,teaching honour,Sharing laughter,tears ,giving praise ,being a positive influence,but most of all loving & recieving all this in return .
Best of luck & I feel your lie is definatley forgivable
Kizzy


I know this and that's what I want and feel I need to do, I'm great at all those things and not being able to share it with a family.

Family is what I want it's not just the children.

Thanks for the reply. Jon ( in Kansas for the moment, soon back to the boats and Florida, I need to get it to boat instead of plural, that's what's keeping me from getting on with my life at the moment.)
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DaveD23
Perth, Western Australia Australia
Posted: May 16, 2008, 10:52 AM CST
IMO honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. People lie for many reasons, but I find it is mostly due to insecurities. The worst person you can lie to is the one your with, and who are kidding anway... you're probably lying to yourself to be at that point.

I used to be a firm believer in everyone is great/honest until proven otherwise. My experience has shown me that most people feel it necessary to put up charades and act out in a self serving manner; subsequently I now believe that honesty is so rare that it's hard to miss. Unfortunately I still get sucked in by a nice smile sigh

BTW Sam, I noticed you're studying civil. I work in recruitment for SKM and we are currently doing our grad campaig. You will hae no problems finding work.
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newto_this
sunshine coast, Queensland Australia
Posted: May 16, 2008, 11:35 AM CST
One thing i cannot stand is liars the worst is when you strike crazy people who are pathelogical liars and they believe their own crap. Thats normally when i try to distance myself from these people and exit the convo as quick as poss with out offending the crazy person. Its sad to say though but allot of people lie due to insecurities in themselves. what they need to know is if they concentrated more on being themselves than actually trying to fool people than more people may actually like them for who they are and not what they say they are.

just my take

better luck in the future then.

one thing i do know is that in life you only become stronger when placed in confronting situations.(life experience)

when i find my wife one day i definitely wont be on this stupid site.

sorry if i offended any one.
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rivame
melbourne, Victoria Australia
Posted: May 16, 2008, 11:57 AM CST
people dont lie because they are insecure.......

they lie because they dont want you to know the truth......


DAGS with two profiles hahahhahahahh

the darling doesnt even have time for one half the time..

another supporter here....wave teddy bear
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ryan229
brisbane, Queensland Australia
Posted: May 19, 2008, 4:59 AM CST
how is your radar any better you just got done again ,and i think your just not attractted to anyone decent ,and will probably always choose this type of personality ,because thats what you must be attractted to.
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