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Twodawgz melbourne, Victoria Australia
relaxin: frustrating is an under statement.

but i am hoping that things may be caught in time.

thanks for your advise


Cool good luck..



bourbon Sunshine Coast, Queensland Australia
sxc666: I heard somewhere that the majority of people who talk about it don't end up doing it.

Its usually the ones that show now sign and 'bang' they're gone.

As a friend I would drag her to the Doctor and say you need help.

Seriously though no-one can win this battle for her she needs to want to get better herself.


Yep... the one's who make a lot of noise are generally attention seekers and rarely go through with it.

The committed one's are generally somewhat withdrawn but with no other apparent signals of what they have in mind. The first you know about it is when they are gone.

I think that she wants attention more than anything else.
relaxin somewhere, Queensland Australia
bourbon: Yep... the one's who make a lot of noise are generally attention seekers and rarely go through with it.

The committed one's are generally somewhat withdrawn but with no other apparent signals of what they have in mind. The first you know about it is when they are gone.

I think that she wants attention more than anything else.


she may be but i am not willing to risk it
maybesoon brisbane, Queensland Australia
Twodawgz: Hey if i was in your situation id try and encourage her to see a councillor or psychiatrist to find and rectify the problem that lies beneath, maybe she can benefit from this if shes so worried of the medication.


yes i agree!! its whats inderneath thats where the problem is, you can give drugs till the cows come home, but its not sorting out where the problem is!!! take this guys advice, and i also agree with another reader, :if someone is talking bout how they gonna end it... think they are looking for "reaction" then to take "action" themselves...moping
relaxin somewhere, Queensland Australia
maybesoon: yes i agree!! its whats inderneath thats where the problem is, you can give drugs till the cows come home, but its not sorting out where the problem is!!! take this guys advice, and i also agree with another reader, :if someone is talking bout how they gonna end it... think they are looking for "reaction" then to take "action" themselves...


Surprisingly this morning she is a whole different person, cant quite get with the mood swings though.
It seems like she has self dignosed what she has and to what degree it is effecting her. Bit of a whirlwind thing happening,i find it confusing.

Just decided to be supportive and listen but not suggest anything but doctors and counciling.



di64liz lithgow, New South Wales Australia
Hi to all :)
All i could say is pretty well like everyone else ,however id also sugest community health and be there as a friend to either him or her .Community health will be able to steer your friend in the right direction.Id also add never take no for an answer. keep seeking til you get the answer which is needed . Long road but their is light at the end of the tunnel...All the best......heart wings
psuedonym adelaide, South Australia Australia
i'm not going to suggest i know one single thing about this subject, coz i don't
all i know is my lack of understanding of depression and the reasons why some people suffer from it when they are better off in life than others, almost depresses me.
i've witnessed the deterioration of a few people at the hands of this evil condition and my observations tell me that avoiding dependancy on drugs to resolve the situation is a must. i have a friend who is in her early 40's , who endured a violent marriage during her 20's, that spent most of her 30's trying to shake the dependancy on antidepressants. that's almost a decade of her life she wont get back.
i also lost a daughter to a drug overdose. she suffered depression that according to those who prescribed the drugs to fix the problem, was brought on by the fact that she fell pregnant as a teenager (18) and was torn between her instincts that encouraged her to be a mum, and a resentment toward the child for ruining her youth. the situation swelled to a level whereby the prescribed drugs were not "relieving" the situation, so with the help of her peers she turned to heroin.
R.I.P. Tracey
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
Twodawgz: Yeah its a short term solution but in the long run sends you loopy trust me..


yep.. its affects and changes the chemical balance in your brain adversly in long term use. Studies have shown that it actually increases the risk of suicidal tendencies and changes your personality negatively.

I was prescribed this drug myself about 9-10yrs ago when it first became the 'drug of choice' for depression. Took myself off it after 3 months when all the negative feedback and health statistics started coming in via the media etc

Short term yeah.. all antidepressants helps to calm you down enough so you don't react to everything that happens and stress etc,, but personally I think they are all short term solutions. They need to be taken in conjunction with counselling and eventually you have to take responsibility for dealing with personal issues and stress etc without the need of drugs

jmo

sad flower
ploughingstar thallon, Queensland Australia
depression is not always psychological it can also be chemical.. the brain doesnt produce enough seratonum hence the drugs sucxh as prozac control the levels! therefore we get the term happy pills... but again drugs are not the be all and end all most depressed people need some form of counsellingthumbs up
misdebs Canberra, Australia ACT Australia
Twodawgz: Hey if i was in your situation id try and encourage her to see a councillor or psychiatrist to find and rectify the problem that lies beneath, maybe she can benefit from this if shes so worried of the medication.


I agree with all thats been said here and you just being there for her is a stone to stand on for her...don't doubt that.
Here are a few places you can contact to seek advice and help
* Family doctors and other physicians
* Mental health professionals: psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, counselors
* Your insurance provider
* Community mental health centers
* Hospital psychiatry departments and outpatient clinics
* Hospital emergency rooms in times of crisis
* University- or medical school-affiliated programs
* State hospital outpatient clinics
* Family service/social agencies
* Private clinics and facilities
* Employee assistance programs
* Local medical and/or psychiatric societies

Hope this helps


relaxin somewhere, Queensland Australia
hi
thank you to everyone for their advise..

i believe it was all an attention seeking statement. Since i have been busy with a few of life little hickups in my life, i was unable to be there at every twist and turn that she was asking me to be there for. Everything appears to have settled down a bit and she is out and about doing the usually stuff. she has a mans attention instead now and she appears to be happy. i dont think pity is a wonderful thing to base a relationship on but whatever works is fine with me.

monty611 gladstone, Queensland Australia
relaxin: hi
thank you to everyone for their advise..

i believe it was all an attention seeking statement. Since i have been busy with a few of life little hickups in my life, i was unable to be there at every twist and turn that she was asking me to be there for. Everything appears to have settled down a bit and she is out and about doing the usually stuff. she has a mans attention instead now and she appears to be happy. i dont think pity is a wonderful thing to base a relationship on but whatever works is fine with me.


This is a very tragic disease depression, I had a friend who made lots of noise about killing himself, everybody said he wants attention, hence is dead now! Most want the pain to stop, and the suicidal ideation to stop from controlling their own thoughts. There is no cure for this disease, but there is help ie: meds(which some ppl will be on for life) due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and most importantly counselling an life skills to be able to live a full an happy life with the disease. Some ppl love the attention of others and never suffered a day in their life, im lonely etc, and for the real ones who really need the help slip through the system as they dont want to be needy.

Would anyone advise that a diabetic go off insulin as it destroys the body with its synthetic form? I think not, they why tell someone with depression to not take meds as they may be addictive!

Mental Illness is a taboo subject, because of the lack of knowledge that most ppl have about it, the crazies may harm us, another one of lifes taboo subjects that kill so many

sad really
Shell225 Brisbane, Queensland Australia
Basically there are two types of depression.. one is due to a chemical inbalance and treated my medication and the other is an attitude and treated with therapy. Best results with chemical depression is treatment with antidepressants and Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.

Sadly depression affects so many ppl and is a silent killer. All too often ppl with depression are judged and told to just snap out of it.. blah blah blah.. Im sure they wish it was that easy.

I think that its plain and simple that no one would want to feel so sad and alone that they would want to top themselves. Ppl dont give themselves depression.

For some depression is an illness that they are able to overcome, for others it is a cronic condition that they are forced to battle for the rest of their lives. Medication in the long term assists them in that battle. ALL medication has side effects and the individual must speak to their doctor if side effects are overwhelming. There are many different types of meds and they can be changed until the right mix and dose are found.

In life we all face challenges, and yes, I look at some ppl in my family who suffer depression and ask myself the same question.. what the h*ll do they have to be depressed about??? Over time I've started to realise that my worst experience is not their worst experience. Once I came to that conclussion, I was able to be alot more understanding towards them.

The chemical inbalance of depression leads to habit. By that I mean the depressed person develops habitual responses that in turn perpetuate the depressed way of behaving and thinking. Medication and therapy assist the individual in challenging those responses and with a great deal of effort, retraining the brain.

I dont believe that there are any easy solutions. If I were to become depressed, I would hope that my friends would take charge (where I could not), make an appointment at the doctor and drag me kicking and screaming into the place.

Best of luck with your friend, I hope that soon they will see the light at the end of the tunnel.








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