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cowgirldancer The Patch, Victoria Australia
If your child was being abused in any way would you WANT to now about it so you stop it from happening


the answer YES of course you would If your child was being abused in any way would you WANT to now about it so you stop it from happening


the answer YES you should





Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
cowgirldancer: If your child was being abused in any way would you WANT to now about it so you stop it from happeningthe answer YES of course you would If your child was being abused in any way would you WANT to now about it so you stop it from happening the answer YES you should


I agree whole heartedly with you cowgirl but in reality, even parents that do know will turn a blind eye for many varied reasons like not believing the child, trusting the person the allegations are against, pride and fear.

We now live in a society where stepping up against wrongs has become dangerous and people fear for their own lives. The authories seem to have it all wrong when dealing with criminals as they have all the rights and the victims have to deal with that as well what they have been through. blues

jmo

Personally I stand up coz my morals would not allow me not to but I couldn't crucify sommeone who didn't because I can understand their position.



pauljb72 wollongong, New South Wales Australia
Ralf74: I agree whole heartedly with you cowgirl but in reality, even parents that do know will turn a blind eye for many varied reasons like not believing the child, trusting the person the allegations are against, pride and fear.

We now live in a society where stepping up against wrongs has become dangerous and people fear for their own lives. The authories seem to have it all wrong when dealing with criminals as they have all the rights and the victims have to deal with that as well what they have been through.

jmo

Personally I stand up coz my morals would not allow me not to but I couldn't crucify sommeone who didn't because I can understand their position.
would kill for my kids in that situation, but as far as some jerk talkin shit, what do you believe, its worth investigating the mongrels.
cowgirldancer The Patch, Victoria Australia
pauljb72: would kill for my kids in that situation, but as far as some jerk talkin shit, what do you believe, its worth investigating the mongrels.



thankyou paul
allways investergate it can be just a phone call for them to be checked out

cgd



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
cowgirldancer: thankyou paul
allways investergate it can be just a phone call for them to be checked out

cgd


Definately, but you also need to consider the stigma you can leave on a person should you be wrong. Unfortunately, allegations like these do not just disappear after the fact.

Don't get me wrong, I say hang the bastards, but I also think you need to proceed with caution if you aren't armed with all the facts. sigh



phaedellis Brisbane, Queensland Australia
pauljb72: would kill for my kids in that situation, but as far as some jerk talkin shit, what do you believe, its worth investigating the mongrels.


CGD has made a very valid point.....and i should have acted sooner, but i believe everything happens for a reason, even tho at that particular time you cant see it, but i agree if a woman has even the slightest doubt then she has the right to act upon it......would you prefer not to act and destroy a childs life?
When it's close to home you know in your heart if anything is going on, but as for some guy talking shite... If that was directed at me....honestly Paul would you sleep with your 12yr old i don't think you would, at 12 yrs of age they are maturing young teens,inquisitive, and hormones flying everywhere,and to destroy a childs life for ones own selfish SICK NEEDS is a no no in my book too, and god only knows how long this has been going on for very mad
Twodawgz melbourne, Victoria Australia
All i can add to this is in this degenerating world, we must take definite steps to protect our children from sexual molestation. It is not wise to leave things to chance and just hope that nothing will happen..

jmo..



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
phaedellis: CGD has made a very valid point.....and i should have acted sooner, but i believe everything happens for a reason, even tho at that particular time you cant see it, but i agree if a woman has even the slightest doubt then she has the right to act upon it......would you prefer not to act and destroy a childs life?
When it's close to home you know in your heart if anything is going on, but as for some guy talking shite... If that was directed at me....honestly Paul would you sleep with your 12yr old i don't think you would, at 12 yrs of age they are maturing young teens,inquisitive, and hormones flying everywhere,and to destroy a childs life for ones own selfish SICK NEEDS is a no no in my book too, and god only knows how long this has been going on for


Only you would know, Phae, what actually happened that night and you need to be the one who gauges the mood, body language and persona of this man and are now in a position to do what you think is correct. We can all put our 2 cents worth in but at the end of the day, the responsibilty lies on your shoulders. Good luck with it all. hug



pauljb72 wollongong, New South Wales Australia
phaedellis: CGD has made a very valid point.....and i should have acted sooner, but i believe everything happens for a reason, even tho at that particular time you cant see it, but i agree if a woman has even the slightest doubt then she has the right to act upon it......would you prefer not to act and destroy a childs life?
When it's close to home you know in your heart if anything is going on, but as for some guy talking shite... If that was directed at me....honestly Paul would you sleep with your 12yr old i don't think you would, at 12 yrs of age they are maturing young teens,inquisitive, and hormones flying everywhere,and to destroy a childs life for ones own selfish SICK NEEDS is a no no in my book too, and god only knows how long this has been going on for
not directed at you phae, but was just saying like ralph you gotta be careful not to make false accusations, there are some real sick guys out there and some will talk about it to get some sort of sick sense of what people think about what they intend to do, either way there are no excuses. you did the right thing,as late as people might think it is, it is better late than not at all.



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
pauljb72: not directed at you phae, but was just saying like ralph you gotta be careful not to make false accusations, there are some real sick guys out there and some will talk about it to get some sort of sick sense of what people think about what they intend to do, either way there are no excuses. you did the right thing,as late as people might think it is, it is better late than not at all.


Cheers Paul thumbs up

My arguement is that none of us were there and maybe it was some stupid off the cuff remark. I have a 12 yr old who is extremely immature and I am sure he would have no problem (not that he has) crawling into my bed if maybe if he was having nightmares or was scared. Maybe it was a comment, though badly thought out, describing a situation like that. I don't know, I wasn't there and as I said, only Phae can be the judge of that. Yet we are all so critical about a scenario we know nothing about. Imagine if you were this man and you had done nothing wrong and suddenly you are labelled a pedophile, your own family writes you off, your neighbourhood starts abusing you wanting you to leave and your kids are removed from your care. He may just be a loving father, doing what he thinks is right for his children. Are we all model parents??? I don't think so.



pauljb72 wollongong, New South Wales Australia
Ralf74: Cheers Paul

My arguement is that none of us were there and maybe it was some stupid off the cuff remark. I have a 12 yr old who is extremely immature and I am sure he would have no problem (not that he has) crawling into my bed if maybe if he was having nightmares or was scared. Maybe it was a comment, though badly thought out, describing a situation like that. I don't know, I wasn't there and as I said, only Phae can be the judge of that. Yet we are all so critical about a scenario we know nothing about. Imagine if you were this man and you had done nothing wrong and suddenly you are labelled a pedophile, your own family writes you off, your neighbourhood starts abusing you wanting you to leave and your kids are removed from your care. He may just be a loving father, doing what he thinks is right for his children. Are we all model parents??? I don't think so.
i totally see your point ralf, and only phae knows how it went, but i congratulate her for doing something,if it bothers you act on it is a saying i like.nobody wants to see a life messed up be it a childsor an adults but it isnt harming a person if its just an investigation, too many get away too often ralf. everyone has a story,and this one has a happy ending.



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
pauljb72: i totally see your point ralf, and only phae knows how it went, but i congratulate her for doing something,if it bothers you act on it is a saying i like.nobody wants to see a life messed up be it a childsor an adults but it isnt harming a person if its just an investigation, too many get away too often ralf. everyone has a story,and this one has a happy ending.


Yes, providing this child is safe and happy, it is a great outcome. Lets all hope that it is indeed a false alarm and this child has been safe and happy all along.teddybear



pauljb72 wollongong, New South Wales Australia
Ralf74: i totally see your point ralf, and only phae knows how it went, but i congratulate her for doing something,if it bothers you act on it is a saying i like.nobody wants to see a life messed up be it a childs

Yes, providing this child is safe and happy, it is a great outcome. Lets all hope that it is indeed a false alarm and this child has been safe and happy all along.
utopia ralf.comfort
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
yay had a cancellation so I got the arvo off so apert from a few domestic duties I GOT THE ARVO off YAY
OK ON TOPIC

CDG You know i have the utmost respect for you , your imput is well recieved & well respected within the forum however on this I have to disagree with you.Not the content of your arguement ofcourse what these people do is wrong & sure ide want to know asap but it is your attack that I critisize here..
I think we all get the point , we all feel the same even Phae, esspecially Phae, If we critisize & berate another when a truth is discovered perhaps truths wont be revealed as readily.Its a scary thing to come forward & accuse another regardless of the content .
Ide not like to be in Phaes situation , but it is thru this forum , the friends made within that one has felt comfortable enough to come forward to voice an issue , and more importantly to act on advise given , advise given backed up with support .To condemn someone now is silly its like shutting the gate after the horse has already bolted.
Jmo
Kizzy
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sxc666 Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
kizzy27: yay had a cancellation so I got the arvo off so apert from a few domestic duties I GOT THE ARVO off YAY
OK ON TOPIC

CDG You know i have the utmost respect for you , your imput is well recieved & well respected within the forum however on this I have to disagree with you.Not the content of your arguement ofcourse what these people do is wrong & sure ide want to know asap but it is your attack that I critisize here..
I think we all get the point , we all feel the same even Phae, esspecially Phae, If we critisize & berate another when a truth is discovered perhaps truths wont be revealed as readily.Its a scary thing to come forward & accuse another regardless of the content .
Ide not like to be in Phaes situation , but it is thru this forum , the friends made within that one has felt comfortable enough to come forward to voice an issue , and more importantly to act on advise given , advise given backed up with support .To condemn someone now is silly its like shutting the gate after the horse has already bolted.
Jmo
Kizzy
Well put AKizzy, I just seen this thread. You said it a lot nicer than I would of.wine

Personally I'm seeing this go of the actual worry of the child to a personal attach on Phae, not cool.

If only one of us could stand up and say how perfect we are, and how we do everything right. *shaking head*
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
sxc666: Well put AKizzy, I just seen this thread. You said it a lot nicer than I would of.

Personally I'm seeing this go of the actual worry of the child to a personal attach on Phae, not cool.

If only one of us could stand up and say how perfect we are, and how we do everything right. *shaking head*



well i was gonna ..... but i thought better of it grin
sxc666 Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
kizzy27: well i was gonna ..... but i thought better of it
How did I know you were going to come back with that rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
sxc666: How did I know you were going to come back with that


grin

How did I know that youde know that I was gonna come back with that!!!!
I dont farkin know but I knew !!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
kizzy27: How did I know that youde know that I was gonna come back with that!!!!
I dont farkin know but I knew !!!!


Kindred spirits, aaaawwww, how sweet, how are you girls??? wave
Twodawgz melbourne, Victoria Australia
kizzy27: How did I know that youde know that I was gonna come back with that!!!!
I dont farkin know but I knew !!!!


How cum you know she knows they know and im the only farker that dont know fark knows..




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