government eviction of indigenous populated suburb ( NOTORIOUS GORDON ESTATE)

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Abo_Idol2009 Lismore, New South Wales Australia
government tore down a full suburb and they don't call it genocide. they call it making change. this is australia not communism!
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
so what do you propose???? That its left as a squallor where the residents live in fear for their lives as gangs of youths bash & rob anyone black white asian whoever that babies & young children be allowed to play in asbestos ?Get Cancer ?
That drug dealers prostitution robbery be allowed to continue without any law & order just because they are indigionious . Please !!!

If the place was condemded & the houses boarded up squatters would still live there so thats not an option !!!
you seem hell bent on bringing a racial slant into these forums.
If you disagree with the situation get out to dubbo & protest !!! just watch ya wallet ,ya car !!!anything of value ide leave at home if I were you .....
and what the f@ck has genocide got to do with it ??? or communism???
Its not like they are bulldozing people in the homes they are offering to relocate people into less violent neighbourhoods
FFS
GET OVER YOURSELF PITY PARTY NOTHING MAKES ME SICKER !!!
barf
Kizzy
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
The World Today - Friday, 12 May , 2006 12:48:00
Reporter: Simon Lauder
ELEANOR HALL: The New South Wales Government is raising eyebrows today with its proposed solution to social problems in the city of Dubbo.
The Government has announced that it will move the entire population of a predominantly Aboriginal housing estate and sell off the homes.
The problems on the Gordon Estate were highlighted on New Years Eve when some police officers were injured in street violence, and police have welcomed the Government's move, as Simon Lauder reports.
SIMON LAUDER: Long-time resident of the Gordon Housing Estate, Jennifer Baker, is not happy with the plan to close it down.
The Estate's been home to hundreds of families in western Dubbo for more than 25 years, and now the State Government plans to sell the 250 Department of Housing properties and relocate tenants throughout the city and other towns.
JENNIFER BAKER: I talk for the percentage of the Aboriginal people that live here. They've live here for years, they've reared their kids up in these houses. You know this is the closest that Aboriginal people will get to their own home, is a housing commission home. And they reared their children up here, and Aboriginal people shouldn't be treated like this. It's got to stop.
SIMON LAUDER: The plan does have the backing of local police, who say feuding families and alcohol fuelled disturbances have seen police attend 100 incidents on the Gordon Estate in the last year.

The Housing Minister Cherie Burton.

CHERIE BURTON: Nothing could get worse than the situation that already exists on the Gordon Estate. We've tried everything we possibly can. The Government has put many, many resources into the Gordon Estate.
The difficulties that we have there is we have warring families that don't get on; the Estate itself is broken, and we've tried every avenue and the only avenue left to me was to make the decision that we made, and that was to relocate the tenants and to close down the Estate.
SIMON LAUDER: The plan has the support of the ALP President, Warren Mundine, who's a former Dubbo Mayor.
WARREN MUNDINE: It's a festering sore that cannot continue. The criminal element that existed in that area is just dragging the whole area down.
SIMON LAUDER: But local independent councillor, Richard Mutton, says racism isn't about to disappear in Dubbo, and forcing people to move homes will only make it worse.
RICHARD MUTTON: Like it or not, there are racist people in Dubbo who will object violently to having Aboriginal people living next door to them, and I can imagine those racist people making those people's life hell.
SIMON LAUDER: But the police say there's been 100 riots on the Estate in the past 12 months?
RICHARD MUTTON: I really object to any body talking about incidents in Dubbo as riots. There was an altercation on New Year's Day. It was a fight. It was a street fight, and that's all it was.
SIMON LAUDER: This morning the Minister, Cherie Burton, responded to predictions of social upheaval, saying the Gordon Estate costs three times what it should to maintain because of vandalism.
She says the new zero tolerance approach will see those who cause trouble evicted and only good tenants will be re-housed.
CHERIE BURTON: We've got a whole program of redevelopments amongst our estates in New South Wales and we've already started a very successful program with the Minto Renewal Project. We're looking at renewing the Bonnyrigg Estate and also the Macquarie Fields Estate. So what this is about is building better housing for our people that are the good tenants and making sure that our bad tenants start to take some respect and responsibility for where they live, or then public housing won't be an option to them.
ELEANOR HALL: New South Wales Housing Minister Cherie Burton ending that report from Simon Lauder.

it sounds to me by that report it needed to be torn down?? .. Ill keep researching to find out more but so far.. dunno
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
Community breakdown: breaking down the Gordon Estate in Dubbo

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The fence around some of the Gordon Estate's remaining houses.

Street Stories - Breaking down the Gordon Estate in Dubbo
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We witness the breaking down of a close, mostly Aboriginal community where people knew their neighbours, lived near their relatives but had a lot of problems. We're talking about the notorious Gordon Estate in Dubbo - the hub of Western New South Wales.

The estate came to the attention of the media after rioting there on New Year's Eve in 2005. In recent years around three cars were stolen every day in Dubbo. Ninety per cent of those cars ended up in the Gordon Estate. Houses on the estate were being torched, a serious drug trade was in operation and packs of kids roamed the streets.

That's how it was until a year ago.

As a response to the crime and social problems that plagued the estate, the New South Wales Department of Housing decided to shut the place down. Over a third of the houses have now been bulldozed and many of the estate's former residents have been moved into other parts of Dubbo.

Crime levels have dropped significantly in the Gordon Estate, but has it solved the problems of this close but dysfunctional community? We spend time with remaining Gordon Estate residents and others who've been moved into quiet and affluent white suburbs where there are no street fights and relatives don't drop in and stay a month. Many ex-residents still go back each day to visit their families on what remains of the estate. They say they miss the life on the streets. It beats television.

You might not hear of the Gordon Estate again. There are plans to change the name of the estate so that it can no longer tarnish Dubbo's reputation. Some people from the community think that will wipe away their history.

Story Researcher and Producer

Tom Tilley
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
it sounds to me by that report it needed to be torn down?? .. Ill keep researching to find out more but so far..


Thats rigtht plus the place is full of asbestos !!! when they sent workers in to remove it they were attacked and the children of the estate left to play in the dumped stuff .
Its so not about hurting the aboriginal people I am not racist as a matter of fact i am really good frioend with many indigionous people I just cant abide the self pity that some feel the need to dump onto others ...
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
for anyone interested.. read the following report.. (sorry it was too long to post in here)


http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/living-on-the-edge/2006/01/06/1136387628011.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap3

and I am not racist either.. I don't care what colour their skin is.. they could be black, blue, white, red or pink with yellow polka dots for all I care.. if they act like out of control animals, thugs and bullies... they can't whinge and whine when someone wants to do something about it



jmo wine
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
sorry.. the #contentSwap3 bit is part of the website address doh don't know what happened there roll eyes laugh
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
Right so you know what I know so where is the genocide he is going on about ????
what a load of shit !!!!
Kizzy
kawai Cowes, Victoria Australia
OK. I read the first post and thought, you know genocide means killing a whole race of people right? I have yet to read about anyone dying in this situation. While I can understand the anger of law abiding citizens in this community, I think it should be directed at the people making trouble, not the people trying to fix it. I have studied aboriginal history in this country, and while I can see that there may be some argument historically, now, we must all survive together. You need to vent your anger at your fellows, the ones that are making life difficult for their fellows and the community, without regard to anyone but themselves.
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
kizzy27: Right so you know what I know so where is the genocide he is going on about ????
what a load of shit !!!!
Kizzy


I think its called 'a chip on the shoulder' or the 'poor me I'm such a victim' syndrome dunno

the aboriginals I know would probably agree the shithole needed to be demolished .. why anyone want to continue to live somewhere like that is beyond me confused
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
kawai: OK. I read the first post and thought, you know genocide means killing a whole race of people right? I have yet to read about anyone dying in this situation. While I can understand the anger of law abiding citizens in this community, I think it should be directed at the people making trouble, not the people trying to fix it. I have studied aboriginal history in this country, and while I can see that there may be some argument historically, now, we must all survive together. You need to vent your anger at your fellows, the ones that are making life difficult for their fellows and the community, without regard to anyone but themselves.


spot on kawai thumbs up he sure does need to look at his own people before directing his racist comments outwards to those who are trying to help fix the problem

maybe he sees help and concern as racism?.. who knows dunno
Lok_Simpson Goodna, Queensland Australia
I live in a pretty dumpy house ( not even council approved ) , if the government offered me a better house in a better location i'd take it! , for 1 , it'll be a nicer area ( the pub and associated fights across the road ( in saying that , there was just a lot of glass being smashed - how ironic ) ) But im not in a housing commission house , its a private rental , and im not complaining.. rent is cheap and helps me save for my own place..

Indigenous people should be welcoming the change , and the oppertunity to become a better person , taken out of hostile and dangerous situations.

In armidale where i grew up , i was friends with a few blacks , but when we started highschool , they hated me with a passion , yet i did nothing wrong to provoke anything.. it was like a switch was flicked or something... needless to say , the cutmore family wanted my blood! still dont know why.. i did nothing.. i mean it!!!



Lou29 Floating in the Riverina, New South Wales Australia
This is the first I have heard of this and by the sound of it, the government did a good thing.

kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
Lok_Simpson: I live in a pretty dumpy house ( not even council approved ) , if the government offered me a better house in a better location i'd take it! , for 1 , it'll be a nicer area ( the pub and associated fights across the road ( in saying that , there was just a lot of glass being smashed - how ironic ) ) But im not in a housing commission house , its a private rental , and im not complaining.. rent is cheap and helps me save for my own place..

Indigenous people should be welcoming the change , and the oppertunity to become a better person , taken out of hostile and dangerous situations.

In armidale where i grew up , i was friends with a few blacks , but when we started highschool , they hated me with a passion , yet i did nothing wrong to provoke anything.. it was like a switch was flicked or something... needless to say , the cutmore family wanted my blood! still dont know why.. i did nothing.. i mean it!!!

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Its called racisim Lok ...
The Aborigional hate the whites
I got bashed years ago because I was a white girl .
no other reason I still have aborigional friends tho just not the idiot variety
Oh & I also have a tshiry with IM NOT SORRY ON IT BECAUSE i AM NOT .nothing to do with me !
Kizzy



Threadbare Delhi India
I made friends with some guys in Wilcannia a while ago. They took me to a church dance. We jumped the fence at the back. Unfortunately it was quickly apparent I was the odd one out and had not paid the door fee.......
Abo_Idol2009 Lismore, New South Wales Australia
you said it!! so what now!a pat on the back, what would i know.
Abo_Idol2009 Lismore, New South Wales Australia
what you talking about this is our land.



Ralf74 Bacchus Marsh, Victoria Australia
Abo_Idol2009: what you talking about this is our land.


What is your agenda here??? It is a farking dating site! roll eyes Go and peddle your sob story to someone who is supposed to give a shit. frustrated You are flogging a dead horse.
blondeaozichick Melbourne, Victoria Australia
Abo_Idol2009: what you talking about this is our land.


my son was born here .. so its his land too isn't it? confused

just like there are lots of people who have been born here over the last 200+ yrs with numerous colour skin.. so its their land just as much as yours isn't it? if you don't agree then ..

you don't know anything about your own history..

the aboriginals originally migrated to australia from asia .. so in effect you are asian.. not 'australian'

so its not your land either
kizzy27 Nowra, New South Wales Australia
blondeaozichick: my son was born here .. so its his land too isn't it?

just like there are lots of people who have been born here over the last 200+ yrs with numerous colour skin.. so its their land just as much as yours isn't it? if you don't agree then ..

you don't know anything about your own history..

the aboriginals originally migrated to australia from asia .. so in effect you are asian.. not 'australian'

so its not your land either



Welll seen as its up for grabs Ill have it then !!!!




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