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Why have religion...?! Because it CONTROLS the masses - in both senses of the word! (Not to mention keeps a lot of parasites in pocket!) You'll be asking next "Why have weapons?"... (Incidently, the Swedish church used to invest in landmines - until it was pointed out on the TV!)

I think I will start the Aussie chapter.

And without formalised Religion do you not think we can still achieve the same result, without interpretations ie - Love for one another and wisdom -

--- in the current form anyway

Cool!

Mercurialiasm caters especially for grumpy old men.

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I believe if we are to survive as a species on this planet (And elsewhere) religion in its current form- will be non existent, for then (As we evolve) the destructive survival/supremacy elements we have in our makeup will have been cast aside for the realisation that, constructive harmonious endeavors in common is the quickest, safest, easiest way forward.
Of course this is still a long way off-

--- In a righteous way- of course!

G'day, CuspofM...........

Yup - religion needs to evolve to cater for a species that nolonger lives in caves believing the flickering of light on the walls is some God speaking to them.

mmmmh controls the masses - but why?--- for the selected few to evolve ahead of the rest of us
--- as for weapons- I advocate deterrent forces- perhaps a gun that dosent shoot but sucks in bullets shot

mmmh yes --- how so archaic we really are
--- heavens, we still defecate on our own home without wiping our arse

How true!...and get this one! the pope had shares in the "PILL"
That was made aware to the public back in the early 90's!!
Hypocracy at its best.

lt was mentioned in a news report ONCE...then silent from there on.Never heard again....AND the popes killed/murdered one of their OWN because it turned out to be a SHE...naughty naughty rather bent and twisted corruption at its usual best!
Satan is alive and well l say.

Ok my take on religion ...through all the corruption,the ego's,the back patting do gooders,the child molesting priests,the avangelists who are ego driven and showy!,the fakes,the "go to church because my parents did" people...and those who simply just dont get the picture!!!

Religion is a needed thing,it helps to keep people in check,its like when for some reason a situation becomes lawless...like the floods in New Orleans where horror ruled.
lf it wasnt for peoples consciences based on their upbringing or acquired moral beliefs...we would all be in huge doo doo!!(trouble).....what l DO believe in,is that we need boundaries that are tried and proven over the years....the bible gives solid values towards that.From wherever we acquire them....

and the other religions --- the muslim one for example - the factions in all of them

perhaps the "good books" should be rewritten

and the other religions --- the muslim one for example - the factions in all of them

perhaps the "good books" should be rewritten.



No they shouldnt be rewritten...they should read them in context not pick such primative ways to survive...or treat others as though the males are the greater race.
Or that women dont mean anything in the bigger picture...or that people should be killed for the greater god.What greater god? the pathetic one that offers them 75 virgins!!???
Where the hell is that written in the book?? lets race out and kill a few thousand people and think about what our reward is....What the!!??
What creepy male is going to get a chance to shag 75 virgins ones his phisical body is inactive??? did that cross their minds?? Doubt it or ever will.
lts got nothing to do with the good book:)
lts what they want to live by... their learning and devotion is from the "Qur'an"(they also follow the "sunnah")
Books we would have a hard time ploughing through and gaining a wise knowledge to live by:)that would sit well with our society today.
Anything that is for self gain where massacres are just for self gain are usually something that scares the pants off most of us.

I agree with many points you make but the control elements seem to always use popular belief to sway the masses- icons to worship

The control element will always exsist..people need to start thinking for themselves.Using an inner sense to examine whats real and what isnt...and why.
But to access whats right you first have to dig in and explor it...not pick a notion out for the air and state that as an uniformed answer:)

We all need our own boundaries as a guideline in life..or your life can really run off track to our detrament.We all instinctively KNOW whats the right or wrong thing to do.

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How do you intend to implement the change?
- Ban religion?
- Set up "official" philosophical beliefs?
- Genocide believers?

All of those ideas have been tried before.
But none of them worked.

"God is dead".
(Friedrich Nietzsche)

"Friedrich Nietsche is dead"
(God)

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