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what do u think about muslims and do u find them fanatics ?

This is a endless long subject -

I do have some very good friends of middle eastern origin - for me its wonderful to discuss matters with them, as they are quite intellectual and see the problematics created willingly/purposely by politic and secular leaderships in the world to serve their thrive for power..

The whole ongoings are highly manipulated, and have nothing to do with the original Islam, inshalla.

Therefore I refrain to be involved other then for peace matters, I feel there is a highly abusive way from all sides for their own purpose.

Muslim, But Not Guilty
July 4th, 2007
Concise, succint and timely.

The following comment from Riazat Butt is a welcome contribution.

"I am not a criminal, nor am I likely to commit a criminal act in my lifetime. I am not a terrorist, nor do I support people who commit or incite others to carry out acts of mass murder. I am as likely to die in a terrorist attack as you are. There is no reason for me not be vigilant.

But these facts do not convince people who believe that, unless I speak out against terrorists, that I am also one of the bad guys. Condemnations from the Muslim Council of Britain, the British Muslim Initiative, the Ramadan Foundation and the Muslim Public Affairs Committee make me realise that the only way to distance myself from terrorists is by vocalising my contempt for those who want to kill us. Being a law-abiding, tax-paying and gainfully employed citizen does me no favours.

As a Muslim, I have to prove I am human and that I object to people blowing themselves up, murdering others and creating a climate of fear. Why would my reaction be different to anyone else’s? Here’s why: Islam connects me to the terror suspects. A religion is all we share but this link is enough to make my friends, my family and me guilty, as if we are somehow to blame for what is happening in Britain, that we should have seen it coming, that we could be doing more to help the police and the intelligence services.

Why should I bear responsibility for the actions and intentions of people I have never met? Two years on from 7/7 and Muslims are still held accountable for the actions of terrorists and the only way to remove this suspicion is to state the bleeding obvious. Condemnation does not change al-Qaida’s plans, nor does it protect us from attacks, but it reassures people that all Muslims are not evil. There is an inevitable race that follows counter-terrorist operations: which Muslim organisation will be first to deplore the atrocities. Such kowtowing only confirms that we have something to hide and that we should apologise for being Muslim."

The majority of muslims are peace loving people.
The fanatics are not much different to any other people who would inflict pain and suffering on "innocents" and society..except their methods are quite extreme.
They are religiously motivated in what they do, and believe it to be right..and just!!..

Ask any peace loving muslim and they will agree. that it is wrong.

it would have been a great interesting thread if any Middle Eastern decendent would have an own oppinion in here

i agree....a lot of different views on this...as its a subject which affects us all in one way or another...

Well, I have found that Christian people also have their own version of Suicide Bombers ...... some of their Fundametalists, with wacky ideas of their own, do realy strange things too. They break up marriages and families under the guise of some strange version of religion. I have known some churches who have expelled young people, some as young as 7yrs old, because they do not approve of something the young person does, or what they wear, or what their parents do, or wear...... And its been by the grace of God that these young people haven`t simply become Satanists or something worse.

Each religion seems to have a streak of strange folk who appear to worship some realy Vengeful Dangerous god and see themselves as his Right Hand Men to carry out some evil scheme they believe is necessary to their "faith".

Religion, to me, seems to be like a garden..? amongst the beautiful flowers there will always lurk some weeds..... And sometimes the biggest most beautiful flower can shed poison around itself and contaminate the innocent ones who seek food in that garden.

I don't like fanatics of any kind...

wow..thats really interesting.

Very good way of explaining it as well....the weeds amongst the flowers..i like that.

Another thing which intrests me are the cults...the small communities who form their own groups and live outside of society.
I suspect there are a few dangerous individuls within these groups as well.

There`s always a few nutters around any group..... With cults its usually the Head Honcho who is the Nutter, cause he (why is it usually a He? I never seen a female cult leader)sets himself up as their god and they gotta carry out his instructions.

I have found that where there is Great Reverence for Money, then you find problems..... Money very easily replaces any other god when it comes to matters of "religion".... Show me a Church of God Worship that doesnt mention Money/or is continually begging off their parishioners/or aiming on building a bigger and better new church building/or in dire need of money for something or other ..... and when next I meet with the Pope I promise to inform him that he doesnt have to pawn any of his belongings from the Vatican......

I am catholic middle eastern, but i grew up between moslims, i admit their are some tension between muslims and christians and we used to hear lots of coments about christ made us angry.
My opinion that muslims never been terrorists but American my dear changed the world and created this monster in this world by which all our lives changed and for me as middle eastern live in USA i am having hard time with every thing from securing a job to small things on a daily basis.

These are the kind of questions that say a lot about us, Mulsims, as if Germans or Frenchmen or Poles were some monolithic entity. Some are fanatics, most are normal middle-class-like people who have families to take care of. We shouldn't ask these kind of questions. There are wiser questions that need to be asked. Any ideas?

Smoky,

You are "spot on" in all you have said.

All religions claim to come from a place a peace, faith, spirit, love etc.

But through the centuries the greed of man (and really it is MAN) has changed all that.

Religion today is about money, status, power, and opposite of any of the tenets upon which any religion was founded.

I have dear friends that are practising catholics, christians, muslims and buddhists. I have dear friends that believe nothing at all. I have dear friends that say they do not know what they can't possibly know.

For me, as long as someone allows me the freeedom and respect to believe what I believe in, then I will extend the same freedeom and respect to him/her.

That does not mean in any way, however, that I will allow fanatics of any kind to blow up buildings, bomb people, preach, abuse or use those that need some kind of faith the most because they have nothing else.

Even Mother Theresa, we now hear, had her doubts. And may I remark, she was the saint of the poor - too bad the catholic church doesn't believe in birth control - that outmoded and insane idea continues to contribute to our overpopulation, and thus poverty.

In an earlier thread,there was the question about moral law, I said for me it was abut empathy and compassion, and ignorance is stupid. I'll also say now that for any of those "nutters" out there that abuse religion and faith, their time will come.

they will be re-incarnated as snails.

Yes. I am thinking that Religion is mis-named? Religiosity applies to the regular practice of something, like brushing your teeth and going to the toilet, or washing your car or cleaning your house..... its something you do out of habit.

Worship of a Higher Power should not be done out of habit, or be something you inherited by birth.... it should come from the depths of your heart and be sincere communion between yourself and what you conceive as All Powerful in the Universe.

I have an Iranian daughter-in-law, born and brought up in the Muslim faith. She worships this Higher Power in a reverent manner without imposing her beliefs on anyone else. She had left her country, to persue a career and to escape the oppression there, where her sisters have to be veiled in public, and is horrified at the latest restrictions imposed on women there .... by the extremist fundamentalists.

My ex-husband is Iranian.

My father is a born-again Christian, and loves me with all his heart, but still truly believes that I will burn in hell because I have not accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior.

I am so sad for him that he believes this to be true, of someone he loves so much.

My next response to a thread will be a happy one!

That is the same as asking what does one think of Protestants and do u find them fanatic or too protesting...hell, one can leave out Muslim and just fill in the blank naming any and all groups; local, national or multinational, then we could move on to all other religions and all their off-shoots, then to Race, ethnic origin, and keep going until one starts naming various parent-teacher organizations. I find the entire question rather inane and ludicrous...

Over time religion and politics have been brought together in a global blender, right now that mix has a Muslim Christian dimension with oil trying to stay on top

all what i can say is i belive in God ..and he means for me everything inside me and out in life also in my belive is we are always only men and women we have a lot of different between us in our self and there are 100% man and also 100% women to love God is to love your self trying to be 100% Man or womamand in the pur Koraan you can find alot about how it should between us in our selfe deep inside ...

i love GOD

muslim