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DO YOU THINK THAT IMMIGRANTS THAT ENTER THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY FOR INSTANCE IN THE CASE OF MALTA SHOULD BE KEPT IN CLOSED DETENTION CENTRES EVEN IF THEIR CASE TAKES A NUMBER OF YEARS TO PROCESS OR DO YOU THINK OTHER ALTERNATIVES COULD BE PROVIDED?

If their cases take years to process, then the system is at fault....I think alternatives should be sought....including work forces, and programmes...the worst thing that can happen to an illegal immigrant is forced inactivity...this leads to resentment and hatred for the very system he is wishing to join....

Don't you think allowing illegal immigrants to walk freely around the country is a dangerous thing to do? How many have criminal records? where will they be housed?Word will soon get back to their families and friends that Malta is an easy touch and encourage them in even greater numbers to come to these shores.
Illegal is exactly what it says, illegal.
Would it take so long to process them if they didn't throw away passports and other identifying documents overboard?
How about opening a job centre in major cities of Libya and take only legal migrants on a contract basis? For all European countries, not just malta.All others are given water and petrol and sent back to Africa. Don't you think there are enough labourers in eastern europe who want work too, and even in malta who cannot find work? Why should we subsidise the illegals here?
This again is only a personal opinion and many will have their own, it's a deep and wide ranging subject, not easily tackled

I think you should put them up in your private residence!

To be serious.........

May I conjecture that it could only be perceived as a problem because we live in a part of the world that has evolved not only fairly involved legal systems, but also a kind of socialist welfare state where we look after those members of society that are not capable of looking after themselves - children, the elderly and those who are too sick (physically or mentally) to provide for themselves.

We bestow and work for these 'rights' to benefit our loved ones and those who also have worked and lived in our societies that share, through a democratic process, similar beliefs to us. We accept, sometimes with a bit of a moan, bestowing these benefits on members of our society - in this case either Maltese citizens or other EU citizens.

Many illegal immigrants are economic migrants who are not in fear for their lives back home but wish to earn a better standard of living in a country that has far better opportunities than 'back home'........ I sympathise with them as that's what many Europeans did who had the guts and motivation to emmigrate to the USA and other 'new world' countries.........

However, we have two problems. One is those who take away jobs or lower wages in a particular industry in the 'host' country...this causes resentment in the unskilled workers of that country (skilled workers are universally welcome as they always benefit the host country).

The second problem is those immigrants who are unable or unwilling to find work and find themselves recipients of the host countries benefits...... this causes huge resentment amongst the majority of the local population.

Illegal immigrants SHOULD be processed humanely within a short period of time. It is NOT an easy task. There will always be a conflict between what is a decent way to treat a fellow human being and what generosity a country can afford to offer to uninvited guests.............. this is what we employ politicians to decide on behalf of us, the voters in a democracy; if they get it wrong then they don't get re-elected!

my god Rusty ..........what happened!!!!!!!OK tell the truth you ran out of alcohol and you are going through withdrawal symptons You certainly managed to sober me up

Immigration is civil and not punishment. Thus dating back to thousand of years is no different from what it is today.

Immigration , a problem from the dawn of civilization. Cant get over it.

Remember how all the people get to Malta?

From the dawn of civilization.............I'm talking of here and now.............it was stated illegal immigration.............illegal is illegal.............end of story for me

Truly amazing co-incidences happen in my life.....!

I was chatting to a local here, about the dereliction of a certain house in the village, that is used to house Asylum Seekers, which seems to have become the local hang-out of the un-employed, who subsidise their monthly swiss cash allowance by dealing in some sort of drugs, judging by the aroma surrounding the property and wafting out into the street, and the comings and goings of a certain strain of people.... And I was informed that these people are not allowed to work, in the belief that they will become unhappy at not being employed, and eventually return to their own country!

The Swiss, and other industrious nations, seem to all hold with this realy strange belief, that only the employed are happy. Receiving a (to me, rather healthy) monthly stippend that allows for a decent living, having one`s firewood supplied by the local authority who also cut it into nice small pieces, and even mow the lawn and tidy up the garden ...and give extra allowances to enable them to enrol at language schools to learn the local language, buy their winter clothing, etc etc........ No wonder the rest of these nations follow the intrepid adventurous souls to these european countries of generous and understanding authorities.

I have a friend, an Iraqi, also an asylum seeker who was not allowed to seek regular employment. Being an industrious person, who did not enjoy lying around all day, began assisting local businesses for no renumeration. He offered his fellow asylum seekers an opportunity to better themselves, with even a small pay packet.... they scoffed at him .... They said why should they work when the government pays them not to.

In South Africa, and I do believe the rest of Africa too ..... it is traditional that men do not work. They smoke, hunt, and do other Men things. The women do the work, building the houses, tilling the land, and all the other things required to keep them alive.

Oh yes, I agree with you. My ancestors were also immigrants. They left Germany, on a ship, in 1836,with their small children, to go to South Africa, because SA needed skilled artisans.

... They worked very hard, began to branch out into other service industries, creating employment for many ....

I am sure that if they arrived there, sat on their bums all day, and held out their hands for stippends from the government ... they would have starved, or returned somehow to their homeland.

Another item that people seem to forget .. is that usually people who immigrate to other countries are what is known as Pioneers, a breed of adventurous folk seeking adventure with the unknown, and possess a will to succeed.

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'Another item that people seem to forget .. is that usually people who immigrate to other countries are what is known as Pioneers, a breed of adventurous folk seeking adventure with the unknown, and possess a will to succeed.'

There we go! We all want a better life for ourselves and our children; only a small percentage of people are brave enough to tackle the unknown and risk drowning at sea etc and the possibility of being locked up in a detention centre to find a better life.

It's a kind of game with life or death stakes for those who make the journey............. remember what awaited the boat people who went in tens of thousands to Hong Kong and had a miserable life in almost 'cages'?

Hope springs eternal in the human breast.

I believe a country, however small, can afford to take a small percentage of immigrants (whether those who arrive officially or unofficially); however a few 'unfortunate' uninvited guests can be dealt with an assimilated into the population; it's when the numbers/percentage increase that the 'host country' experiences problems that it finds very difficult to deal with.

The EU states that refugees should seek refuge and be dealt with by the first 'safe' country they land in. I have no idea why the UK doesn't send asylum seekers back to France if they have come over the Channel; however I do feel that the EU needs to come to some sort of collective decision regarding those countries on the borders of the EU such as Malta.

Malta is a small island and cannot be expected to shoulder the entire economic burden for illegal refugees; however if the EU collectively is generous to Malta that would/could make the problem worse as illegal refugees would then (perversely) be seen as a source of income for the Maltese government (if a subsidy for each illegal immigrant was given).

On the other hand, if Malta sent every illegal immigrant 'back' to where it was believed they came from there would be a huge outcry from human rights groups.

You can't win! There is no easy solution; let's just hope that progress will be made throughout the world so that people will not be desperate to leave their own countries in the first place (unless, of course, they have skills that we are short of in which case they, hypocritically, will be more than welcome!).

Except for the SA portion which i rebuted, i agree.

You quote a small section at the end of my posting .... this was referring to the era of the 1800`s, not the present. There is no fear of the unknown these days. These people fleeing their countries for betterment of themselves only fall into a comfortable lap where all their needs suddenly become met.

Housing is provided, a monthly stippend is provided, amidst other small luxuries previously not afforded in their own countries.

As a matter of interest .... for anyone wondering how I managed to row my boat here to Switzerland ....... I had to put up "surety and guarantees" before being granted Temporary Residence.
I do not cost the Swiss any of their contributions to their own government coffers.

And it realy pisses me off to see the almost arrogantly easy acceptance of another nation`s social monies to provide a place in the sun for people who contribute nothing to the country that maintains them in a style of which they are not accustomed to.

..... and to then see them get upset when everyone`s hearts don`t bleed for them.....

Dear Smoky,

I'm afraid it's called 'racial prejudice'. You have the wrong colour skin. You are white and therefore not eligible to sympathy, and you must feel the guilt of your evil white oppressor ancestors for the rape and despoilation of what was once nice, gentle, loving cuddly 'wouldn't say 'boo' to a goose' Africa.

Don't you realise that before the evil white man and his cohorts of white females stepped foot on African soil that it was a veritable garden of Eden where everybody lived happily (and spears and clubs were for decorative purposes only)?

Hell, didn't you know that even lions were vegetarians before the evil white man landed in Africa?

I would like to say I feel sorry for you, but I can't. You are a white person and to feel anything but outrage for somebody so bad would a sin worthy of punishment by the thought police.

P.S. I am writing to Michael Jackson to see if I can swop my white skin for his errrrr 'skin'...............on second thoughts - forget it!

hard question!

they should never be allowed to enter our country...as the word says it is ILLEGAL....we should put them on a barge feed them bread and water until they own up and tell us from where they are and then they should return to their country because illegal immigrants are cowards fleeing from their country....Do you get it....YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE..>GO BACK!!!!:

I could sing a Song or two about that

similar thing happened to me in........yeah,well,the place where I was going to spend the rest of my days.
Was from the wrong Country with the wrong ethnical background.

Ill give you my laymans worth as a bricklayer whos had to travel for work because of recessions in the past..........ive travelled to the United Kingdom in the mid eighties and was glad of the work on the building sites...good money ..hard work and a sense of well being and plenty of other paddys to have a laugh with.......went back to Ireland in early 90`s as the work dried up ..but had suddenly become a brit..haha.............travelled then to Deutschland during the 90`s and worked from Trier to Hamburg -Arnstadt-Mannheim -Rockweil...get the pic im a seasoned migrant
Them days are GONE!!!!!!! ...........The world has become so so Global that local jobs can be under threat much quicker than ever before...the wealthy countries CANNOT compete with the manufacturing poorer countries .........People work from home now on computers.....society has changed.....

THE DAYS OF LOOKING AFTER IMMIGRANTS PROBLEMS NEED TO BE PUT ASIDE ...LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN...BUY LOCAL GOODS(might cost a couple of cent more but it goes the circle)BUY LOCAL PRODUCE(support the local farmers) BUY YOUR COUNTRIES BRAND...AND KEEP THE JOBS IN YOUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!

Deter a immigrant by paying him/her menial wages and making sure they have no social welfare benefits until they are at least 10 years in the country paying 10 years income tax etc....THIS INCLUDES CHILD BENEFITS