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SLUGS & SNAILS ....

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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 13, 2008, 2:59 PM CST
.. Have they got feelings? .... Is it kinder to crush a snails shell? ... Throw them out into the mid-day heat on concrete to die a slow dry death? ... Sprinkle them with salt and turn them into writhing slime?.... Or "humanely" kill them by enticing them into a Beer trap?.. where they free to drink as much as they want, get drunk and drown themselves?conversing cheers
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Lionheart1211
Malta, Majjistral Malta
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:20 PM CST
smoky wrote:
.. Have they got feelings? .... Is it kinder to crush a snails shell? ... Throw them out into the mid-day heat on concrete to die a slow dry death? ... Sprinkle them with salt and turn them into writhing slime?.... Or "humanely" kill them by enticing them into a Beer trap?.. where they free to drink as much as they want, get drunk and drown themselves?
all sadism! man has no right to destroy nature. Man is part of the biodiversity as much as snails and slugs are
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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:28 PM CST
Lionheart1211 wrote:
all sadism! man has no right to destroy nature. Man is part of the biodiversity as much as snails and slugs are


True, Lionheart, very true! But we got a humungous problem here with snails and slugs .... as it gets warm they cover everything and eat all the budding new leaves and blossoms. Okay, they are food for the Hedgehogs, but the Hedgies only eat what they can find on the ground...... and the snails/slugs eat everything above ground level. I found out they absolutely go crazy over beer ..... so thought I`d lay in a few Free Pubs for them .. and they love it! Unrestrained, they crawl all over everything ... even deckchairs and out-door tables leaving their slime trails ...... The birds dont want to eat them - So what is their normal natural predator? Is the balance somehow upset here? ..... Even though no poisons are used?
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:44 PM CST
smoky wrote:
True, Lionheart, very true! But we got a humungous problem here with snails and slugs .... as it gets warm they cover everything and eat all the budding new leaves and blossoms. Okay, they are food for the Hedgehogs, but the Hedgies only eat what they can find on the ground...... and the snails/slugs eat everything above ground level. I found out they absolutely go crazy over beer ..... so thought I`d lay in a few Free Pubs for them .. and they love it! Unrestrained, they crawl all over everything ... even deckchairs and out-door tables leaving their slime trails ...... The birds dont want to eat them - So what is their normal natural predator? Is the balance somehow upset here? ..... Even though no poisons are used?
Cut them in half.Many Snails are Carnivorous and they will eat other Snails,especially if the are dead.
Also the Hedgehogs will then be able to get at them,since the Snails would be on the Ground.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:48 PM CST
Lionheart1211 wrote:
all sadism! man has no right to destroy nature. Man is part of the biodiversity as much as snails and slugs are
That is all very well.
Do we stop killing Rodents then,since they are responsible for the Destruction of ONLY about 25% of the Grain-Crops in some Countries,usually Countries that can least afford such a loss.conversing wave
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Lionheart1211
Malta, Majjistral Malta
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:49 PM CST
smoky wrote:
True, Lionheart, very true! But we got a humungous problem here with snails and slugs .... as it gets warm they cover everything and eat all the budding new leaves and blossoms. Okay, they are food for the Hedgehogs, but the Hedgies only eat what they can find on the ground...... and the snails/slugs eat everything above ground level. I found out they absolutely go crazy over beer ..... so thought I`d lay in a few Free Pubs for them .. and they love it! Unrestrained, they crawl all over everything ... even deckchairs and out-door tables leaving their slime trails ...... The birds dont want to eat them - So what is their normal natural predator? Is the balance somehow upset here? ..... Even though no poisons are used?
Birds will get the ones not on the ground. Especially thrushes, such as the Song Thrush. SO they have plenty of predators. Why do you think they have shells! sticking out tongue
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Lionheart1211
Malta, Majjistral Malta
Posted: May 13, 2008, 3:52 PM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
That is all very well.
Do we stop killing Rodents then,since they are responsible for the Destruction of ONLY about 25% of the Grain-Crops in some Countries,usually Countries that can least afford such a loss.
Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 13, 2008, 4:04 PM CST
Lionheart1211 wrote:
Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.
Lets kill off all of Mankind and restore the Natural Equilibrium of Nature againcool
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CuspofMagic
space, Mecklenburg-West Pomerania Germany
Posted: May 13, 2008, 8:49 PM CST
smoky wrote:
.. Have they got feelings? .... Is it kinder to crush a snails shell? ... Throw them out into the mid-day heat on concrete to die a slow dry death? ... Sprinkle them with salt and turn them into writhing slime?.... Or "humanely" kill them by enticing them into a Beer trap?.. where they free to drink as much as they want, get drunk and drown themselves?


How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice laugh --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria
Posted: May 13, 2008, 11:23 PM CST
CuspofMagic wrote:
How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
we all live off something and all life is entitled to life
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Posted: May 14, 2008, 12:05 PM CST
wedward wrote:
we all live off something and all life is entitled to life


How can all life be entitled to life is you are at the top of a food chain? D'oh!
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Elley
Cadiz, Andalucia Spain
Posted: May 14, 2008, 12:07 PM CST
rusty_knight wrote:
How can all life be entitled to life is you are at the top of a food chain?


We aren,t at the top of the food chain, we are at the bottom cos when we get buried the worms,ll ave us.sticking out tongue
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Posted: May 14, 2008, 12:12 PM CST
Elley wrote:
We aren,t at the top of the food chain, we are at the bottom cos when we get buried the worms,ll ave us.


That's 'recycling' for you! grin
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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:16 PM CST
Lionheart1211 wrote:
Rodents that cause damage as mainly rats which have been introduced by man. Accidentally most of the time. Very often they multiply and increase because they do not have natural predators. As is the case here in Malta, because hunters have killed off all the Kestrels and Barn Owls that prey on rats. If man did not interfere with nature, there would be equilibrium.


Hunting is very very strictly controlled here ..... Never ever would a bird or any other animal be indiscrimately killed.... So we obviously still got all the natural bird life .... just nothing, besides the Hedgehogs, who eat snails and slugs!

Anyway, never to worry .... I discussed this with an elderly lady today, and she informed me that the earth at my house had not been turned over for many years ... hence the phenomenal amount of slugs and snails ... I only have to spade up the entire garden to unearth the young snails and slugs for Hedgie to nibble on. Well I have already done most of this .... only a few thousand more spadefulls to go! .. And to get rid of all the Ivy groundcover. And that the Comfrey plants I have planted (about 30 so far) will help to eradicate the remaining slugs and snails, but still provide dinner enough for Hedgie and his mates.

I do try and work with nature .... with a few of my own entrepreneurial ideas thrown in .... So the 2 Free Beer pubs for snails and slugs will be a permanent feature ... especially in the region of my Hemp plants.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:20 PM CST
CuspofMagic wrote:
How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter
You'd be surprised how much one of those Little Mouths can eat.rolling on the floor laughing
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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:20 PM CST
CuspofMagic wrote:
How much can one eat --- pick them up ( Have you dealt with ones slimey excretions)use it as and exercise in practice --- then place them in another section of your garden where you possibly want the removal of green matter

How much can ONE snail eat? .... It can eat an entire seedling in one night!

Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.
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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:23 PM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
You'd be surprised how much one of those Little Mouths can eat.


Yup ... you only got to live in CH, wait all winter long to grow something ... and then have these Slugs come along and devour the whole lot in one night! ... Sort of reminds me of being back in Africa! Okay, so the slugs havent got AK47`s ... but they still eating what I planted for myself!
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: May 14, 2008, 6:23 PM CST
smoky wrote:
Hunting is very very strictly controlled here ..... Never ever would a bird or any other animal be indiscrimately killed.... So we obviously still got all the natural bird life .... just nothing, besides the Hedgehogs, who eat snails and slugs!

Anyway, never to worry .... I discussed this with an elderly lady today, and she informed me that the earth at my house had not been turned over for many years ... hence the phenomenal amount of slugs and snails ... I only have to spade up the entire garden to unearth the young snails and slugs for Hedgie to nibble on. Well I have already done most of this .... only a few thousand more spadefulls to go! .. And to get rid of all the Ivy groundcover. And that the Comfrey plants I have planted (about 30 so far) will help to eradicate the remaining slugs and snails, but still provide dinner enough for Hedgie and his mates.

I do try and work with nature .... with a few of my own entrepreneurial ideas thrown in .... So the 2 Free Beer pubs for snails and slugs will be a permanent feature ... especially in the region of my Hemp plants.
HEMP???confused Trying to Stone those poor Critters??grin rolling on the floor laughing
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CuspofMagic
space, Mecklenburg-West Pomerania Germany
Posted: May 14, 2008, 10:40 PM CST
smoky wrote:
How much can ONE snail eat? .... It can eat an entire seedling in one night!

Nah, Cuspo .... When I`m in a good mood I give them to my grand-daughter and she has snail races - the winner gets to go to the neighbor, and the losers have to go play on the main road with the cars.


---try crushed egg shells around your seedlings
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guiriman
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 12:23 AM CST
try training your hedgehogs to fly rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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