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Most if not all shrinks have got or had bigger problems than yours, how do you think they got to be shrinks in the first place ? Having learnt how to get themselves through it they set up shop as a proven expert.

I had a friend once (female) who went to her local Relate office for a job interview as a counsellor. She was rejected on the grounds that as she had no marriage problems she couldn,t possibly relate to somebody who did. The irony was that not too long afterwards her marriage did indeed fall apart.

BTW Hi to Smokey, nice to see you round.

Elley - nice to see you around too! (if I wasn't heterosexual I'd marry you! )

couldn't you marry him anyway. I'd love to buy a new hat and come to the wedding

Bollocks!

charming! - oh go on, invite me. pleeeeease. I'll listen to you self-flagelation and feeble attempts at putting on a positive face.

Talking of weddings - just spoke to my ex who I broke up with Thursday week (I broke up with her, not she with me)......... she is already engaged to get married to another man!



Truth is so much stranger than fiction; isn't it?

she obviously wasn't intelligent enough to recognise a good thing when she had it. fk her, mate. move on.

Sorry - she was/is VERY intelligent and she was honest enough to tell me she didn't love me, but we both hoped our relationship would improve over time - it now seems obvious to me that she harboured very strong feelings for an ex boyfriend (she is now engaged to him).

She did tell me that I was the best thing that ever happened to her, but without love you could have mountains of gold and still have a heavy heart - right?

I've spoken to her fiancee - a really decent sounding guy.

I just feel sad, because in my heart I know the relationship is doomed -

You know the saying is true that once a woman leaves you then comes back, you can never ever trust her again......... sooner or later the man will get suspicious and feel angry and start wondering if she has 'strayed' - lack of trust will kill the relationship totally dead sooner or later.



Thank God I found out now, rather than a couple of months down the road - it would have hurt ME far more then than now because I truly loved/love the woman and then I would have felt betrayed too!

my grandad once told me that way back in his day when a man loved a woman, he wanted her to be happy. duuno if that applies today still

Yup - I want her to be happy..... and I hope it works out for the happy couple...... but I know that both her husband to be and myself must have been deceived emotionally; it'll take a lot of really hard work as well as love for their marriage to work.

I also know that the man is physically violent - having smashed up stuff in her appartment, thrown stuff out of the windows and causing neighbours to have to intervene because he was screaming and shouting at her.......... and quite recently (when I was not in her appartment...... I somehow don't think he'd have done that with a man in the place!)

I do want them BOTH to be happy - as I love the woman I would like her life to be good (which includes a happy marriage).

I just think it sounds all a bit 'sad' to me........ a failed relationship is just that, and if there were problems before there are likely to be problems again in the future.

Put it this way - I love the woman, but I'd not have her back. (been there, done that, had my head screwed with!)

Fk her mate, maybe he has.

Thankgod we both like women too much.

Well, Your truth is certainly more strange than fiction! You broke up with your ex on Thursday and she is already engaged to another man, a guy who, somewhere here on this thread, you say is violent and smashes up her flat, and then you also say she is Intelligent? Sounds like you two are ideally matched?.... jmho .....

Stroooth! You sure live a roller-coaster type lifestyle methinks! ... Inbetween all these happenings you donated your body as a real live Birthday Gift (f--k I do believe that means?) to a total stranger you met on the ferry? ... Oh c`mon, time to get real! You sound like a frigging nut-case ... in my humble opinion.

gottago

I think that must be the general maxim

See...? And its beginning to come right now isn`t it? ...... Just now you`ll be hitching and ditching twice a day! Nearly there ......by next week we should be getting 12 hourly updates on your love life!... And then its just another week, and it could be down to 6 hourly?.. If you try realy hard to be decent, loving, commited, tgrusting, mutually beneficial, secure and happy in each relationship.....

Yup - a decent committed realtionship every 30 minutes - with lunch breaks for good behaviour

I knows you loves me!