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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria

Posted: Jun 8, 2008, 11:41 PM CST

what is your opinion of robert mugabe

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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria

Posted: Jun 8, 2008, 11:43 PM CST

[quote=wedward]what is your opinion of robert mugabe[/quo te] my opinion is that he is a despot and is guilty of genecide of his own people how could the un let him attend the food summit let alöne speak the man is evil

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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 3:41 PM CST

Well, according to himself, the food crisis in Zimbabwe is the fault of the USA and Britain for imposing sanctions when all he was trying to do was to re-distribute the farmlands fairly to his own people......

What I dont understand is this ... they still got the same amount of farmland .. Why they not producing food?

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 3:48 PM CST

smoky wrote:

Well, according to himself, the food crisis in Zimbabwe is the fault of the USA and Britain for imposing sanctions when all he was trying to do was to re-distribute the farmlands fairly to his own people......

What I dont understand is this ... they still got the same amount of farmland .. Why they not producing food?

Maybe it isn't just the Land that produces Food,but Human Know-How.
And under Conditions,like the ones created by Mugabe,the first thing that goes Underground is the Human Mind.

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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 3:51 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

Maybe it isn't just the Land that produces Food,but Human Know-How.
And under Conditions,like the ones created by Mugabe,the first thing that goes Underground is the Human Mind.

Yes, I see what you saying ... But .... Surely the people should be so happy to inherit nice big farms? Most of them with a furnished house, farm implements, tractors, harvesters, etc etc .....? All they got to do is FARM! Even the contours of the farms are layed out!

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 4:01 PM CST

smoky wrote:

Yes, I see what you saying ... But .... Surely the people should be so happy to inherit nice big farms? Most of them with a furnished house, farm implements, tractors, harvesters, etc etc .....? All they got to do is FARM! Even the contours of the farms are layed out!

What is lacking is a Thinking Human Mind with the Knowledge to use all those things.

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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 4:06 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

What is lacking is a Thinking Human Mind with the Knowledge to use all those things.

I met quite a few Zimbabwean people, of the Matabele tribe - but their people were not included in the land re-distribution there. They would have loved to have been given the opportunities that the Shona tribes were given by Mugabe! Seems very racist, to me, when a leader gives land to only his own tribal folk?

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 4:16 PM CST

smoky wrote:

I met quite a few Zimbabwean people, of the Matabele tribe - but their people were not included in the land re-distribution there. They would have loved to have been given the opportunities that the Shona tribes were given by Mugabe! Seems very racist, to me, when a leader gives land to only his own tribal folk?

Definitely.
He gave them to his Cronies,his Yes-Men,and I doubt they have the ability to do the kind of Farming required to get Zimbabwe out of the Quagmire Robert Mugabe got it into.
It's extremely sad to contemplate what Africa is really capable of.
But Freedom is one of the Basic Requirements for Prosperity.

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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria

Posted: Jun 9, 2008, 11:12 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

Definitely.
He gave them to his Cronies,his Yes-Men,and I doubt they have the ability to do the kind of Farming required to get Zimbabwe out of the Quagmire Robert Mugabe got it into.
It's extremely sad to contemplate what Africa is really capable of.
But Freedom is one of the Basic Requirements for Prosperity.

why didnt they arrest him at the food summit put him on trial for genacide and send in un troops to oversee a fair election and also some experts on farming with some seeds its a wonderful country gone down the tubes try him lock him and throw away the key would be my justice for the despot

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 3:14 AM CST

wedward wrote:

why didnt they arrest him at the food summit put him on trial for genacide and send in un troops to oversee a fair election and also some experts on farming with some seeds its a wonderful country gone down the tubes try him lock him and throw away the key would be my justice for the despot

No International Arrest-Warrant?
Then how many of those "Leaders" wish in their Hearts of Hearts they could be just like Robert Mugabe and get way with it?

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foreveryoung1
cartagena, Murcia Spain

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 5:24 AM CST

If I gave my honest opion of Robert Mugabe here, I would be booted, sufice to say, I did not enjoy having to drive into deep water ditches to allow him and his entourage to pass by. He is a despot, and cares nothing for his people only himself and his 'friends' who help keep him in power.

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smoky
Unterland, Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 7:07 AM CST

I did hear a theory, cant remember where or who from ... that the man RM just Has to stay in power because if he relinquishes his post then he will and can be arrested and tried for his crimes.....?... Also that his life will not be worth anything when he is NOt the president anymore.

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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 7:38 AM CST

--shame kick him out[---quote=smoky]I did hear a theory, cant remember where or who from ... that the man RM just Has to stay in power because if he relinquishes his post then he will and can be arrested and tried for his crimes.....?... Also that his life will not be worth anything when he is NOt the president anymore.[/quote]

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foreveryoung1
cartagena, Murcia Spain

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 8:05 AM CST

smoky wrote:

I did hear a theory, cant remember where or who from ... that the man RM just Has to stay in power because if he relinquishes his post then he will and can be arrested and tried for his crimes.....?... Also that his life will not be worth anything when he is NOt the president anymore.

Yes, I heard that also, However he must have sufficient money stowed away that one of the other African nations would take him?

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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 11:47 AM CST

smoky wrote:

Well, according to himself, the food crisis in Zimbabwe is the fault of the USA and Britain for imposing sanctions when all he was trying to do was to re-distribute the farmlands fairly to his own people......

There is no Foodembargo by anyone against Zimbabwe.
It's that Crook Mugabe not letting the Food getting to the People

There are some Travel-Sanctions,and I believe some Freezes of Bank-accounts against some Members of the ruling Party,including Mugabe.
The Crisis and Shortages are of his OWN making!!

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Elley
Cadiz, Andalucia Spain

Posted: Jun 10, 2008, 5:59 PM CST

Conrad73 wrote:

Maybe it isn't just the Land that produces Food,but Human Know-How.
And under Conditions,like the ones created by Mugabe,the first thing that goes Underground is the Human Mind.

It,s a fact, the people he gave the farms to simply do not know how to farm. Like giving the keys to a forty ton truck to a three year old and telling him to get on with it and drive you into town. Makes no sense.

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wedward
linz, Upper Austria Austria

Posted: Jun 11, 2008, 12:02 AM CST

Elley wrote:

It,s a fact, the people he gave the farms to simply do not know how to farm. Like giving the keys to a forty ton truck to a three year old and telling him to get on with it and drive you into town. Makes no sense.

-- a thought just struck me rm is 86 yrs old is he just a puppet for a milatary junta ,who keep him in power to serve their own ends?

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