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wedward linz, Upper Austria Austria
what is the solution to this problem if there is one



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
There is none...war is the natural state of man..

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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Lagoona22: There is none...war is the natural state of man..


What is peace?



Lagoona22 Bugibba, Majjistral Malta
Peace is a warm gun, a hot croissant, and cool babe..laugh
cristina: What is peace?
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
In response to: what is the solution to this problem if there is one
So the War has reached this Shore too?doh doh frustrated
cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Lagoona22: Peace is a warm gun, a hot croissant, and cool babe..


I wanted you to be deep on this onemoping



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France
In response to: what is the solution to this problem if there is one


Simple the Israeli Gov. has to talk to Hamas..There is no other way around it. It's called conflict resolution. Do I think that the Israeli Gov. are talking to Hamas. Yes. Even through the carnage.Yes. Do I think that they (Israeli Gov.) are trying to seperate the Hawks in Hamas from the Doves. Yes...But they must and will talk someday around a table.Sooner the better.

All I know about a terrorist war is what is called 'The Troubles' and through out the troubles the British Gov. since 1969 had what is known today as the 'back channel' in which they communicated with the PIRA, even when they(PIRA) bombed mainland UK..and it took almost 40yrs to stop fighting and start talking.

There has never been as far as I know a democratically
elected Gov. that has ever beaten a terrorist army by military means alone(I stand to be corrected).

The problem today (I'm not touching the histrionics of the place)...is Hamas is the legitimate Gov. of the Palaestian people and is funded by Iran. You could very easily make and argument that it is not a civil war but a proxy war against Iran.

What they(Israeli Gov. and the wider international community) has to do is talk the Palaestian people...Outside of Iran and Syria there is not a lot of 'support' in the Arab world for the Palaestian cause. Yes they pay lip service but thats it.

And I believe Israel is using disproportionate force..They may kill the revolutionary but never the revolution...You can't put a rope around the neck of an idea.

The sad and unfortunate part about what is happening is innocent people are being killed on both sides..And the aid is getting in very slowly..

But both are as bad as each other...Hamas for their human bombs and Israel for their actions toward Gaza strip(cutting off electricity, closing the place off, shuting water supplies..)










jollyjumper antwerpen, Antwerpen Belgium
i don't know but the bombings make me very angry



foreveryoung1 cartagena, Murcia Spain
jollyjumper: i don't know but the bombings make me very angry


as do the rockets fired at CIVILIAN targets in Israel
rizlared Pisa, Tuscany Italy
foreveryoung1: as do the rockets fired at CIVILIAN targets in Israel


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When will the human race learn that killing each other solves absolutely nothing.

wedward linz, Upper Austria Austria
rizlared: When will the human race learn that killing each other solves absolutely nothing.
NEVER BECAUSE WE HAVE PROBLEMS TALKING TO EACH OTHER. PUT 20 ADULTS IN A ROOM AND WITHIN 1 HOUR THEY ARGUE PUT 20 CHILDREN IN A ROOM AND THEY PLAY .ITS IS ONLY WHEN WE GROW UP AND LISTEN TO THE WORLD AROUND US THAT WE LEARN TO HATE BECAUSE CHILDREN HAVE NO PREDJICES ONLY WHAT WE ARE TAUGHT THEY SHOULD LET THE CHILDREN RULE THE WORLD THEN WE WOULD ALL PLAY TOGETHER.....
wedward linz, Upper Austria Austria
cristina: I wanted you to be deep on this one
LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF JOHN LENNONS ..IMAGINE... ARE WE ALL JUST DREAMERS
gussi Freiburg, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
This shit has been going on for the last 50 or so years and if it aint the gaza its palestine or the arabs. Take Ireland as an example, that shit went on for almost 400 years.

wedward linz, Upper Austria Austria
gussi: This shit has been going on for the last 50 or so years and if it aint the gaza its palestine or the arabs. Take Ireland as an example, that shit went on for almost 400 years.
yes wars rage all the time across the globe and it sickens me to see it love and peace is a much better way to livesigh
mike69spain Almuñécar, Andalucia Spain
Phoenix, that is a pretty good summary.

Hamas, being who they are, were not the favourites (by us foreigners) to win the LEGAL elections in Palestine.

The actions today look very much like a proxy situation, since there are really no commoners in the Gaza area that wanted what has come to them.

The militants actions are out of control of the locals there, they protect them mainly because they are kin, not because they are much involved in the cause.

We have a situation there that is falling apart every so often, there have never been real peace, but to begin with, they should go back to the old settlement agreement made up once the state of Israel was drawn up.

They can only solve this themselves, the war methods use will not solve nothing but create a situation were ignorant onlookers will feel Israel is cleansing the area of Palestine, or if they read only American media, that Palestine is one big terror group. None of which is true.

The supporters of the Hamas agenda are quite happy with what have happened, now they get the two sides clearly marked, those pro Hamas and those pro Israel. Such a situation will not lead to peace, we should stay as neutral we can, and try to crystallise some kind of facts and reasons behind what is happening.

Shooting into school and living areas is not accepted no matter who is doing the shooting when civilians are living there. Basta. Still it will happen, and we will need to hold each power doing so responsible, but first after we reached a halt in the violence. Throwing blame at either at this moment will only serve their cause of creating havoc and hatred.

Use Google Earth, check the area where they are bombing, and tell me, how they can not hit civil targets. There is nothing else there but private homes, hospitals, kindergartens and offices. No clear military targets at all. Israel knows this, and still they have walked into this “diplomatic” trap with heavy feet.

Hamas have very little political support around the world, but what they have is a “we – them” scenario and they play very well in that game. The lives lost to fire their cause seem not to worry them, and here is the big problem. If they care not to protect their own, who will they care to protect at all? PLO did have another view on this, an old-fashioned political agenda, but Israel never was happy with what they had to agree to settle the situation once and for all.

To the local people that must have been extremely frustrating, on both sides, the Palestine’s since “the Israel government did not want peace” and the Israelites since the PLO just wanted “more and more and death to all Jews”. None of those are true, but politically coloured media truly knows how to fire up a crowd.

Solution? Close all local media (both sides) and let a group of Ghana reporters take care of the reporting. They did wonderfully well now in their own election.

Could that be done? Of course not... dunno


sad flower
ascky_man320 paphos, Paphos Cyprus
the problem with my respct for every body .....
but we all don't understand what the human life means why we just leave with beace and love each other black and white chrestian or muslim or what ever .
but no body can this just we have to know that is nothing come of this wars just sadness and people killed .
only way we love each other what ever we are .......
mike69spain Almuñécar, Andalucia Spain
ascky_man320: only way we love each other what ever we are .......


If that could be the leading star for all, what wonderful utopia we would have.

cswelcome By the way wine



phoenix paris, Ile-de-France France

Lagoona22: Peace is, a hot croissant, and cool babe..



cristina: I want you to be deep



Sorry mods sometimes you have to laugh.....bouquet



Jan1305 Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain
phoenix: Sorry mods sometimes you have to laugh.....


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Only from Lago and Cristina could spring forth such pearls of wisdom! No offence guys!

I´m on the side of the Palestinians and I refuse to debate the whys and wherefores.

Read the IF forum threads and in particular solitaire´s posts.
wedward linz, Upper Austria Austria
Jan1305: Only from Lago and Cristina could spring forth such pearls of wisdom! No offence guys!

I´m on the side of the Palestinians and I refuse to debate the whys and wherefores.

Read the IF forum threads and in particular solitaire´s posts.
hi jan i come from a jewish family and find it difficult to understand how a terrorist group can become a goverment or could it be that hamas are just puppets for iran if someone was sending rockets into a town where you family live i wonder if you would still be of the same opinion i deplore war and the deaths of women and children but still believe a sovriegn state has the right to defend its people professor drinking wine




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