DedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia5,492 posts
None of them
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” *Goebbels"
Dedovix: None of them “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” *Goebbels"
The people must be kept in a state of ignorance ..
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
The voters are the only ones to blame because they put them in power in conscience.. in democracies i mean. Fortunately, we can give a chance to alternance !!!
jac379: Potentially more than half, if there are more than two choices, ergo the government is perhaps voted in by a minority who think they're the lesser of the two evils.
That's not an inspiring, or passionate concept of democracy, is it?
It gets even worse. We have the electoral process of voting for our higher up in government. Which in itself is difficult to explain even to the ones whom live here. All votes really do not count Mine do I live in a state that does. One day when you have a extremely boring day google about the electoral voting process here. Don't seem right to me. Makes one really scratch their heads. Been that way for a while here.
Happygolucky4u: It gets even worse. We have the electoral process of voting for our higher up in government. Which in itself is difficult to explain even to the ones whom live here. All votes really do not count Mine do I live in a state that does. One day when you have a extremely boring day google about the electoral voting process here. Don't seem right to me. Makes one really scratch their heads. Been that way for a while here.
opps forgot we are known as the screw up state of the voting process. All these elderly the yanks keep sending this way to retire. Can't drive and can hardly walk
Yet Florida is one of the electoral states anyhow no matter how we keep holding up the process
At the end of the day it has to be the people in total; voting and non-voting alike. Stupidity, greed, corruption and always looking for the easy way out, as politicians do, are things true to the rest of society. Politicans are drawn from and kept by the common lot; politicians are this way because the people are this way.
Look at the Russian state - corrupt as sin. Look at the Russian man - a lazy, corrupt drunk(stereotypes are true).
The people ultimately get the government they deserve.
janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK916 posts
Apathy reigns in the voting public and rarely do we have a truly elected government. So I would say the non voters have a lot to answer for, although governments however elected do have a tendency to lie and go back on their pre election promises.
As a woman I feel it is my obligation to vote, however apatheic and disillusioned I am. Brave women and men gave me that right to vote so long denied.
We're a highly polled society and because of that we can easily find out what it is people want from government in the form of policies and decisions. If you measure current policies with public opinion polls you'll see that there is a huge disconnect between what people want and what they are getting on a wide range of topics and issues, whether foreign policy or many social issues. Public opinion or the will of the people does not influence policy in a real sense. I think its pretty unfair to blame the problems in this country on voters who get to decide between all of a few people who are real choices only because they're backed by the same capital intense corporations or financial institutions...that went to the same elite universities...basically the same backgrounds wealth political influence etc...its literally unthinkable that we could elect someone in this country from our own ranks who have different policies...Its not the voters fault...its the nature of our political system...its nothing new either...you can see it in the ideals of our founders...so take a couple of the most influential john jay at the constitutional convention said "those who own the country ought to govern it" or james Madison who said "the role of government is to protect the minority of the opulent from the majority" I believe theres a real lack of democracy and that is a main problem we face in this country...
Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions and laughed delightedly at his licentiousness and thought it very superior of him to acquire vast amounts of gold illicitly. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious
Conrad73: Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions and laughed delightedly at his licentiousness and thought it very superior of him to acquire vast amounts of gold illicitly. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious
One of the issues regarding peoples impressions of politics is that the voters only get their information from the Media which in this country is lazy and very biased and are also people who are generally from the part of the middle class that has not been effected by the changes that so many of us in NZ have experienced. If you don't study the sociology of how a society works you have no idea of how we got here or why and you are unable to make an informed voting decision so you are dependant on the Media for your information. So many of our young people don't vote for this reason. This is so sad when I remember that the women of my grandmothers generation fought so hard for us to be the first women in the world to get the vote.
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