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Apr 24, 2014 12:54 PM CSTWas Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?

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Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
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Apr 24, 2014 1:09 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
MrRick are you referring to the women in Cleveland who were kidnapped by that fruitcake?
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Apr 24, 2014 1:12 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Rivers also stood by her joke when reached by The Plain Dealer for comment on Wednesday, telling the Cleveland newspaper, "I know what those girls went through. It was a little, stupid joke. There is nothing to apologize for. I made a joke. That’s what I do. Calm down."



The joke was tacky, this response indicates her ignorance.

She knows what those girls went through? I think not. Nobody knows what it was like to have their experience, except them.

Whether it's right and proper for comedians to have freedom of speech, is somewhat a separate issue from adding to the women's trauma. After all they've been through, would it really hurt Rivers all that much to apologise for any distress caused?
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Apr 24, 2014 1:31 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
MrRick77: Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?




Do you mean like your polls are usually uncalled for?






No different from any of her jokes, I find her hilarious.

She is a comedian doing what she is paid to do. Humour is like music we all have different tastes.
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Apr 24, 2014 1:36 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
No not like that at all.
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Apr 24, 2014 1:37 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Yes, that joke Joan Rivers did about them.
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Apr 24, 2014 1:41 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
MrRick77: Yes, that joke Joan Rivers did about them.




I can't stand her anyway.If she was any kind of a human being she would apologize and should.
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Apr 25, 2014 6:19 AM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
MrRick77: Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?


I'll never pay to see Joan Rivers again.
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Apr 25, 2014 6:20 AM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Ccincy: She'll be welcomed through the door of the Karma Cafe.Her order is probably waiting on her.


A heaping dish I reckon.
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Apr 25, 2014 6:31 AM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
I never cared for her or a hand full of others that have the same tactless humour. Don Rickles used to make me ill. I did not understand why he would insult people so aggressively when I was a young man. I do know that these people will not apologize to anyone most likely, they are paid to piss you off. And the thing is that people pay for them to do it. Even this thread gives it more life.
Cheers.
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Apr 25, 2014 1:25 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
MrRick77: Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
I voted "yes", but wanted to point out that some comedians use the "drop-shock" in their schpiels. Lenny Bruce, Howard Stern, George Carlin all insulted and shocked their audiences, often using terrible current events to "illustrate" their puns, etc...Remember all the corny, horrible jokes that circulated at the onset of the AIDS crisis, or when the Challenger exploded? Nasty stuff out there, and I don't "get" the humor in those routines, either, but Joan should not be singled out. I guess if you really disagree then change the channel, don't watch her. It's simple. I don't care for David Letterman. Solution? I don't watch him! You can't get rid of those things you disagree with, but you can choose not to participate.
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Apr 25, 2014 2:03 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
rohaan: I voted "yes", but wanted to point out that some comedians use the "drop-shock" in their schpiels. Lenny Bruce, Howard Stern, George Carlin all insulted and shocked their audiences, often using terrible current events to "illustrate" their puns, etc...Remember all the corny, horrible jokes that circulated at the onset of the AIDS crisis, or when the Challenger exploded? Nasty stuff out there, and I don't "get" the humor in those routines, either, but Joan should not be singled out. I guess if you really disagree then change the channel, don't watch her. It's simple. I don't care for David Letterman. Solution? I don't watch him! You can't get rid of those things you disagree with, but you can choose not to participate.


There's a whole range of laws in place designed to remove the platform from certain people and views. The principle of free speech is already compromised, they can and do get rid of those deemed disagreeable. Anyway, she is an extreme egoist, individualist and narcissist to the point where the gays have even made an icon of her, but her popularity amongst the base shouldn't privilege to her a free speech that others do not have. Society could silence the degenerates, and it doesn't have to be left to the individual to shut-in, shut-off and retreat from the larger social world like some kind of autistic.
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Apr 26, 2014 2:53 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Obstinance_Works: There's a whole range of laws in place designed to remove the platform from certain people and views. The principle of free speech is already compromised, they can and do get rid of those deemed disagreeable. Anyway, she is an extreme egoist, individualist and narcissist to the point where the gays have even made an icon of her, but her popularity amongst the base shouldn't privilege to her a free speech that others do not have. Society could silence the degenerates, and it doesn't have to be left to the individual to shut-in, shut-off and retreat from the larger social world like some kind of autistic.
I did say that I voted "yes"; the joke was uncalled for, so slow down to a three second sprint, will ya? I am well aware that the principle of free speech has long been compromised--it is unlawful to cause a riot in a closed area such as a theatre, etc.. by the superfluous screaming "Fire!", and so on. Still, even with those laws, American authorities allow quite a lot still, to go on, whether or not the majority likes it or not. This is what I was referring to when I stated that you can't get rid of those things you disagree with. Assuming you absolutely must hear it in the correct vernacular, I will re-phrase it to "You OFTEN cannot ENTIRELY get rid of MANY of those things you MIGHT SOMETIMES disagree with". Better?? teddybear
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Apr 26, 2014 2:54 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
rohaan: I did say that I voted "yes"; the joke was uncalled for, so slow down to a three second sprint, will ya? I am well aware that the principle of free speech has long been compromised--it is unlawful to cause a riot in a closed area such as a theatre, etc.. by the superfluous screaming "Fire!", and so on. Still, even with those laws, American authorities allow quite a lot still, to go on, whether or not the majority likes it or not. This is what I was referring to when I stated that you can't get rid of those things you disagree with. Assuming you absolutely must hear it in the correct vernacular, I will re-phrase it to "You OFTEN cannot ENTIRELY get rid of MANY of those things you MIGHT SOMETIMES disagree with". Better??
Moses napped and Judas crapped. Geeze Louise....
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Apr 26, 2014 3:08 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Obstinance_Works: "Society could silence the degenerates, and it doesn't have to be left to the individual to shut-in, shut-off and retreat from the larger social world like some kind of autistic".
After more than five years of university, countless CEU classes, and a thirty-plus year career in the professional medical/social work field, I do not remember one instance where changing the television or radio channel caused autism. For real. Not even once!::roll: rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 26, 2014 3:55 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
jenny68
jenny68jenny68Kildare, Dublin Ireland14 Threads 1,375 Posts
She reminds me a little of a blonde female version of Prince...and her voice goes through me the same way his does...I just change channel when she comes on like I do with others...They have freedom of speech but we all have the freedom to choose whether to listen or watch...wink
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Apr 26, 2014 4:13 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
jenny68
jenny68jenny68Kildare, Dublin Ireland14 Threads 1,375 Posts
Oh believe me I cannot stand her...So I choose to never watch her...same as others...Frankie Boyle to name but one...When they need to use "shock value" to get a laugh well leave them at it...and listening to an audience laughing with that tone "well we know we shouldn't" just adds to it...Leave them at it...
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Apr 26, 2014 4:28 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
Joan Rivers is a JOKE!!!!!!! She's so bad that even her plastic surgeon was like, can we just put a bag over her head and call it an improvement?
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Apr 26, 2014 7:02 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
jenny68
jenny68jenny68Kildare, Dublin Ireland14 Threads 1,375 Posts
Oregongold: Joan Rivers is a JOKE!!!!!!! She's so bad that even her plastic surgeon was like, can we just put a bag over her head and call it an improvement?


I tried not to pass remark on her personal appearance, it just buys into how vile she is...besides the fact she is a bad version of Prince female wise..I find her a horrible individual thumbs down
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Apr 26, 2014 7:16 PM CST Was Joan Rivers Kidnapped joke uncalled for ?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
When laws start to censure comedic repartee, it is the start of the end, when society bans speech we will end up with a 1984 style newspeak.
Most comedians use tragic events as material for humour, it is up to the individual listener to decide if they think it's funny, Joan Rivers has done no more, no less than any other professional comedic actor. To censure her would in my opinion be very wrong.
We have in the west a limited freedom of speech, every year that freedom gets less and less, though people making out they are offended by certain words, phrases or subjects, offence is their problem not societies and therefore up to the individual to deal with it.
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