freedom of speech....where is it at (25)
sweetiefireball: with all of the media hype....usa today is the only one i know of...emphasis that i know of that has come across with the other side of the story in missouri....
Freedom of Speech. There is no such thing as freedom of Speech unless you can defend it. Or pay for it. And that price can run into tens of millions of Dollars/Euro in the court. Not only that, but in our digital age, Information Dissemination bodies (search engines, web portals etc) can use Freedom of Speech to censor what they want.
Perfect example:
Baidu.com is the leading search engine in China. The plaintiffs in this case have published materials online about the democracy movement in China. They allege that, at the request of the Chinese government, Baidu excludes pro-democracy search results, including their materials. They sued Baidu in the United States for this alleged censorship. Yesterday, in a scholarly, thoughtful and wholly persuasive opinion, a federal judge emphatically rejected the lawsuit, saying the First Amendment protected Baidu’s search results.
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Freedom of speech means freedom from interference, suppression or punitive action by the government—and nothing else. It does not mean the right to demand the financial support or the material means to express your views at the expense of other men who may not wish to support you. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to agree, not to listen and not to support one’s own antagonists. A “right” does not include the material implementation of that right by other men; it includes only the freedom to earn that implementation by one’s own effort. Private citizens cannot use physical force or coercion; they cannot censor or suppress anyone’s views or publications. Only the government can do so. And censorship is a concept that pertains only to governmental action.
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
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Conrad73: Freedom of speech means freedom from interference, suppression or punitive action by the government—and nothing else. It does not mean the right to demand the financial support or the material means to express your views at the expense of other men who may not wish to support you. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to agree, not to listen and not to support one’s own antagonists. A “right” does not include the material implementation of that right by other men; it includes only the freedom to earn that implementation by one’s own effort. Private citizens cannot use physical force or coercion; they cannot censor or suppress anyone’s views or publications. Only the government can do so. And censorship is a concept that pertains only to governmental action.
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
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Conrad73: Freedom of speech means freedom from interference, suppression or punitive action by the government—and nothing else. It does not mean the right to demand the financial support or the material means to express your views at the expense of other men who may not wish to support you. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to agree, not to listen and not to support one’s own antagonists. A “right” does not include the material implementation of that right by other men; it includes only the freedom to earn that implementation by one’s own effort. Private citizens cannot use physical force or coercion; they cannot censor or suppress anyone’s views or publications. Only the government can do so. And censorship is a concept that pertains only to governmental action.very well stated...probably more we can add and then it would become like a book...
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
While people are clamoring about “economic rights,” the concept of political rights is vanishing. It is forgotten that the right of free speech means the freedom to advocate one’s views and to bear the possible consequences, including disagreement with others, opposition, unpopularity and lack of support. The political function of “the right of free speech” is to protect dissenters and unpopular minorities from forcible suppression—not to guarantee them the support, advantages and rewards of a popularity they have not gained.
The Bill of Rights reads: “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press . . . .” It does not demand that private citizens provide a microphone for the man who advocates their destruction, or a passkey for the burglar who seeks to rob them, or a knife for the murderer who wants to cut their throats.
The difference between an exchange of ideas and an exchange of blows is self-evident. The line of demarcation between freedom of speech and freedom of action is established by the ban on the initiation of physical force.
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Freedom of speech has a whole new meaning now...it's been replaced by "politically correct" and only a select few can actually spew things and get away with it
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Freedom of speech never knew any excisted.
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As long as it includes freedom from speech, I'm in.
Or is that freedom of movement?
Or is that freedom of movement?
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sweetiefireball: with all of the media hype....usa today is the only one i know of...emphasis that i know of that has come across with the other side of the story in missouri....
Try the Wall St. Journal; it is not just about stocks, bonds and securities…. For magazines, try the New Yorker.
One way to gauge the actual real news content of a newspaper is by weight; the heavier it is, the less news you’ll find...
(stay away from the Honolulu Times and the Los Angeles Times, others are then in descending order…the papers rely on the old saying that “no news is good news"
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Kattte: Try the Wall St. Journal; it is not just about stocks, bonds and securities…. For magazines, try the New Yorker.
One way to gauge the actual real news content of a newspaper is by weight; the heavier it is, the less news you’ll find...
(stay away from the Honolulu Times and the Los Angeles Times, others are then in descending order…the papers rely on the old saying that “no news is good news"
well thanks...i shall look those up again...being off of campus am reduced to what comes across my computer....but since classes begin again this week....One way to gauge the actual real news content of a newspaper is by weight; the heavier it is, the less news you’ll find...
(stay away from the Honolulu Times and the Los Angeles Times, others are then in descending order…the papers rely on the old saying that “no news is good news"
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SoonerGal: Freedom of speech has a whole new meaning now...it's been replaced by "politically correct" and only a select few can actually spew things and get away with it
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Freedom of speech so why do we get telephone bills 
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lushguy4you: Freedom of speech so why do we get telephone bills
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There is no freedom of speech in this country. Only those with money have a degree of freedom (of speech, assembly, etc.)
I can just see what they'd do if people started to seriously rally around socialist or Marxist ideas and hold public speeches on the topic. They'd become "enemies of the state" faster than a snake smiles.
I can just see what they'd do if people started to seriously rally around socialist or Marxist ideas and hold public speeches on the topic. They'd become "enemies of the state" faster than a snake smiles.
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lushguy4you: Freedom of speech so why do we get telephone bills
Bravo! Excellent!
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sweetiefireball: with all of the media hype....usa today is the only one i know of...emphasis that i know of that has come across with the other side of the story in missouri....
What is the "other side of the story in Missouri"?
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reb56: sums it up for usa.
especially while on connecting singles
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Nidifugous: There is no freedom of speech in this country. Only those with money have a degree of freedom (of speech, assembly, etc.)
I can just see what they'd do if people started to seriously rally around socialist or Marxist ideas and hold public speeches on the topic. They'd become "enemies of the state" faster than a snake smiles.
I can just see what they'd do if people started to seriously rally around socialist or Marxist ideas and hold public speeches on the topic. They'd become "enemies of the state" faster than a snake smiles.
More students in both high schools and colleges seem to be having early epiphanies in their American History classes than ever before, especially when their teachers tell them that terrorists attack America not because they have any legitimate ideological to make but because they are jealous of their freedoms. Many just laugh out loud in disbelief; I certainly did in my time. Many now demand to know what freedoms is the teacher referring to; the freedom to spend their lives away? The freedom to live in a society that seems to be more terrified of itself every day? The freedom to be subjugated by a government that murders indiscriminately and ruthlessly around the planet with predator drones and makes it both illegal and treasonous to even question its actions? When I was told to leave the class, I looked back at my classmates and could see fear. In college, I saw the same fear on their faces as I did back in high school and others have seen this also when told to leave the classroom for the same reasons. Assurances from their teachers that those that remain are perfectly safe is no longer sufficient to reassure most.
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Kattte: More students in both high schools and colleges seem to be having early epiphanies in their American History classes than ever before, especially when their teachers tell them that terrorists attack America not because they have any legitimate ideological to make but because they are jealous of their freedoms. Many just laugh out loud in disbelief; I certainly did in my time. Many now demand to know what freedoms is the teacher referring to; the freedom to spend their lives away? The freedom to live in a society that seems to be more terrified of itself every day? The freedom to be subjugated by a government that murders indiscriminately and ruthlessly around the planet with predator drones and makes it both illegal and treasonous to even question its actions? When I was told to leave the class, I looked back at my classmates and could see fear. In college, I saw the same fear on their faces as I did back in high school and others have seen this also when told to leave the classroom for the same reasons. Assurances from their teachers that those that remain are perfectly safe is no longer sufficient to reassure most.
Probably true, but by the time they graduate, they are so deeply indebted that they have no other choice than to become part of the machine to survive. I had a Prof who was originally Hungarian and he told us that a complaint was filed by the parents of one student who didn't agree that his choice of literature included "The Communist Manifesto." Fortunately the administration backed him, but that's how deeply rooted the fear of different ideas is. If the status quo isn't directed, then it's initiated by the indoctrinated.
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Kaybee50: What is the "other side of the story in Missouri"?
Well. I'm not sure what "facts" USA Today is printing? Are their "facts" different than other media outlets' "facts"?
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Kaybee50: What is the "other side of the story in Missouri"?
well....almost all of the media is reporting the minorities r rebelling and usa news shows the rallies for the police force and officer...and the fund raiser for him....that has outdone the other fundraiser....also signs of innocent until proven guilty or r we back into the mob days,,,,there is white power and there is black power grps....------ This poll is Archived ------
correction of spelling there are groups versus each other....this is not one sided....come to my area and find that out for sure....
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sweetiefireball: correction of spelling there are groups versus each other....this is not one sided....come to my area and find that out for sure....
Where do you start with freedom of speech or end before one or the other party shows aggression. Too many shades of grey!!!
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Kattte: More students in both high schools and colleges seem to be having early epiphanies in their American History classes than ever before, especially when their teachers tell them that terrorists attack America not because they have any legitimate ideological to make but because they are jealous of their freedoms. Many just laugh out loud in disbelief; I certainly did in my time. Many now demand to know what freedoms is the teacher referring to; the freedom to spend their lives away? The freedom to live in a society that seems to be more terrified of itself every day? The freedom to be subjugated by a government that murders indiscriminately and ruthlessly around the planet with predator drones and makes it both illegal and treasonous to even question its actions? When I was told to leave the class, I looked back at my classmates and could see fear. In college, I saw the same fear on their faces as I did back in high school and others have seen this also when told to leave the classroom for the same reasons. Assurances from their teachers that those that remain are perfectly safe is no longer sufficient to reassure most.
ahhh...yes...reminds me of just a few yrs back....i was in an ethics class and the debate each and every class session was between the liberals and the conservatives....now we all know most of the professors r liberal...it is a plain and simple fact...that is just part of the college atmosphere in a progressive age...i remember one class a different college where i was asked by the prof to meet up after class and dsicuss the satan theory....because folks evil is not just done by people.....they work in conjunction w the guy w horns.....------ This poll is Archived ------
sweetiefireball: with all of the media hype....usa today is the only one i know of...emphasis that i know of that has come across with the other side of the story in missouri....
I think that the media there has made themselves into the story. They through their reporting and giving a voice to otherwise ordinary citizens and residents of Ferguson, now can vent their feelings and opinions. The media has turned this serious tragedy into a circus.
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see, listening to Chris over the years on here about the origin of greek words....
GIVEN THE MODERN OBSESSION with the concept of freedom and the almost inevitable link between freedom and democracy it is no wonder that classical scholars show renewed interest in the ancient Greek concept of eleutheria and its relation to the modern concept of freedom. Two foci of attention are (1) democratic eleutheria, in particular the Athenians’ understanding of political freedom, and (2) the philosophers’ alternative conception of eleutheria, in particular Plato’s and Aristotle’s understanding of what freedom is really about.
GIVEN THE MODERN OBSESSION with the concept of freedom and the almost inevitable link between freedom and democracy it is no wonder that classical scholars show renewed interest in the ancient Greek concept of eleutheria and its relation to the modern concept of freedom. Two foci of attention are (1) democratic eleutheria, in particular the Athenians’ understanding of political freedom, and (2) the philosophers’ alternative conception of eleutheria, in particular Plato’s and Aristotle’s understanding of what freedom is really about.
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