some...emphasis on some...men want a woman to sit sit by his side and look pretty and let him make all the decisions and do all the talking even if she is also a biz pro.....
sweetiefireball: some...emphasis on some...men want a woman to sit sit by his side and look pretty and let him make all the decisions and do all the talking even if she is also a biz pro.....
"Some Men" must be a really small percentage. imo.
I think. For a man or woman's relationship to work as well as the chemistry of attraction is also the chemistry of being on the same wave length as regards intelligence,
imagine... a date...the guy goes on and on...the woman tries to interject to also talk about her accomplishments and he never lets her finish....he keeps talking of himself and his life...the lady puts it down to his wife just died...signals the waiter and wants to leave....ahhh...folks this is also a first and maybe last date scenario....or at the very least....let us just b friends....
Since you are speaking in the third person view, I assume the Woman is not you. Another bad date I guess. I would really like to know the person now before a date.(I think)
sweetiefireball: ps the wife died about 16 mos ago....what do u think and ahhh say if u were in that position.....
It may have nothing to do with being scared of an intelligent woman from his perspective. It might be more to do with gushing out loads of stuff from a lack of company, or talking constantly to stop himself from getting upset, or feeling guilty about being on a date and getting to know someone else, or being used to doing all the talking, or any number of things.
Perhaps what's more interesting, and this is by no means a criticism, is how it left you feeling. I'd be exploring my feelings if I were in this position. The chances are the scenario reminded yme of something else, perhaps past experiences with partners, in the workplace, or even as far back as childhood family conditions of worth.
sweetiefireball: ps the wife died about 16 mos ago....what do u think and ahhh say if u were in that position.....
I prefer intelligent women.
The date you described could be completely self absorbed.
He could also just be starved for personal interaction/connection. I've found people tend to go on like that, if they're not getting enough social contact.
That can also happen out of insecurity. He could just be trying to tell you over and over he's good enough to be on a date with you.
I've noticed it with single mom's often if they're not maintaining social relationships. When they get an adult to talk to, they can go on a bit. Some will just out right monologue. It's not a big issue for me, if I can tell something's up for them.
MADDOG69: I have the rare fortune to know and to have known a few intelligent women. There used to be one or two here. I haven't seen any on this board for quite a while.
I generally find men like intelligence. They like good conversation, good banter, good ideas, etc.
What is not to like about intelligence?
If one person talks about himself/herself for the entire night, he/she is probably just a self-absorbed cretin. That has nothing to do with intelligence.
jac_the_gripper: It may have nothing to do with being scared of an intelligent woman from his perspective. It might be more to do with gushing out loads of stuff from a lack of company, or talking constantly to stop himself from getting upset, or feeling guilty about being on a date and getting to know someone else, or being used to doing all the talking, or any number of things.
Perhaps what's more interesting, and this is by no means a criticism, is how it left you feeling. I'd be exploring my feelings if I were in this position. The chances are the scenario reminded yme of something else, perhaps past experiences with partners, in the workplace, or even as far back as childhood family conditions of worth.
say what....am trying to say i was totally bored...i mean two hours of listening to that....and that death was 16 mos ago and my mom was 3 weeks ago but...that was not allowed to b discussed....obviously the guy is lonely....but i am not that old that i just want to hear about the deceased spouse....i mean my hubbie has been gone for a few yrs...and i am a young widow....anyways....do not go assuming or analyzing.....we all know that old saying....
ps if i feel the need to talk of the dead....i go to a religious or a grief counselor...not take unsuspecting peeps out and hash and rehash...my experience w widowers....yikes....i would rather date a guy who has always been single or is readily available....usually men or women who just want to talk about their deceased is for people who just want to play a subordiante ...did not spell that right....role in life....not this girl! i still want to live....yikes...
MADDOG69: I have the rare fortune to know and to have known a few intelligent women. There used to be one or two here. I haven't seen any on this board for quite a while.
Uh oh! you in big trouble boy!
I think some guys do. I wouldn't be the type of woman who lets the man make all the decisions, just the ones I can't be bothered with!
Seriously, I think there should be a balance, but each to their own and if some women don't mind the man making all the decisions, well that's up to them and if they're happy then good for them.
sweetiefireball: ps if i feel the need to talk of the dead....i go to a religious or a grief counselor...not take unsuspecting peeps out and hash and rehash...my experience w widowers....yikes....i would rather date a guy who has always been single or is readily available....usually men or women who just want to talk about their deceased is for people who just want to play a subordiante ...did not spell that right....role in life....not this girl! i still want to live....yikes...
I don't understand this comment. (I looked thru the whole thread, and did not see those references...could you please explain?)
sweetiefireball: say what....am trying to say i was totally bored...i mean two hours of listening to that....and that death was 16 mos ago and my mom was 3 weeks ago but...that was not allowed to b discussed....obviously the guy is lonely....but i am not that old that i just want to hear about the deceased spouse....i mean my hubbie has been gone for a few yrs...and i am a young widow....anyways....do not go assuming or analyzing.....we all know that old saying....
So, why is it bothering you enough that you can't just let it go?
Again, not a criticism, I just think you have an opportunity for some self-awareness here.
Is there some grief anger mixed up with this? It's not uncommon to get piss annoyed when we lose someone. Is this a way of focussing some of that anger and letting some of it out?
Is there something else? Like as women we're expected to fulfil caring roles, even if we need some care ourselves?
ahhh boring...boredom....even a few yrs back dating widowers....boring....and i do not let people make fun of me excuse me....get off ur soapbox whoever u r....cause u have no pic!
Kaybee50: OP, I've read this entire thread and it seems you're all over the place on this. It's difficult to discern the points you are attempting to make.
I will not take the poll because there is not a suitable choice for me. I will say however that only an unintelligent man would find an intelligent or accomplished woman "scary". I admire anyone, male or female that makes the effort to educate themselves and has the initiative to accomplish the things that makes them successful.
sweetiefireball: imagine... a date...the guy goes on and on...the woman tries to interject to also talk about her accomplishments and he never lets her finish....he keeps talking of himself and his life...the lady puts it down to his wife just died...signals the waiter and wants to leave....ahhh...folks this is also a first and maybe last date scenario....or at the very least....let us just b friends....
In what way does this have anything to do with the womans intelligence?
Kaybee50: OP, I've read this entire thread and it seems you're all over the place on this. It's difficult to discern the points you are attempting to make.
And this is for Maddog...
Thank you for saying this. (side comment: I am working on being more diplomatic. It is paying off, so it seems).
sweetiefireball: imagine... a date...the guy goes on and on...the woman tries to interject to also talk about her accomplishments and he never lets her finish....he keeps talking of himself and his life...the lady puts it down to his wife just died...signals the waiter and wants to leave....ahhh...folks this is also a first and maybe last date scenario....or at the very least....let us just b friends....
I've seen it happen to a guy so it goes both ways.
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