Would you pay for guaranteed privacy (email) or chat? (19)
There is no guarantee that your mail would be totally private online because hackers will find a way in one way or another.
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Track16: There is no guarantee that your mail would be totally private online because hackers will find a way in one way or another.
You use SSL and 125 bit encryption. That's what google does. Their servers are no more secure than the one I can set up in my basement, you know.
I think hackers are the least of the problems, to be honest. Actually, I think trailing and tagging people and using beacons like the collector variety are a form of hacking. They tell you up front that you have to consent to let third parties put stuff in your computer, but they don't tell you who these third parties are.
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If you want to keep it private, use the post. Data mining is what you pay for their "free" service.
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Nidifugous: Would you pay if you could have an email/chat provider who guarantees that your emails aren't analyzed, scanned, kept or forwarded to anybody else? or would you rather share everything about yourself (as most people do now) because it's free?
2/3 of planet is water and yet somebody managed to bottle it and sell it for profit some as much as $25 and there r buyers .
personably I don't like to pay for the things that should be free just have to watch what u put out there in the net
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papion: 2/3 of planet is water and yet somebody managed to bottle it and sell it for profit some as much as $25 and there r buyers .
personably I don't like to pay for the things that should be free just have to watch what u put out there in the net
personably I don't like to pay for the things that should be free just have to watch what u put out there in the net
Yes, Nestle does and they're expanding.
Well, I don't think it should be free. Someone has to pay for the server, electricity, backend maintenance etc.
As it is, we're paying by letting the "free" services analyze us, analyze mail content, etc., and it's resold at a hefty price. So we're not getting a freebie.
The question is: how much is your privacy worth to you?
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a guarantee in the internet is like "check is in the mail and I promise..."not even armed forces are immune to hackers, whether its inside or outside job, good luck collecting any reward from guaranteed contract in the internet. we all are being exploited even from before birth. charging us in addition is just double taxation.
but if paying sum put ur mind at ease by all means, peace of mind is priceless
but if paying sum put ur mind at ease by all means, peace of mind is priceless
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papion: a guarantee in the internet is like "check is in the mail and I promise..."not even armed forces are immune to hackers, whether its inside or outside job, good luck collecting any reward from guaranteed contract in the internet. we all are being exploited even from before birth. charging us in addition is just double taxation.
but if paying sum put ur mind at ease by all means, peace of mind is priceless
but if paying sum put ur mind at ease by all means, peace of mind is priceless
Looking at who the targets of hackers have been, it's not been private emails, but large companies who retained credit card numbers or the dmv with a large database of names and addresses, etc., but some small business that doesn't do financial transactions is probably not a likely candidate. I haven't even heard of anybody trying to hack google mail or yahoo mail.
You're right. Peace of mind is priceless. I'm seriously thinking about setting up my own little server and run my own little show for myself and family and friends as a hobby. It'll make me feel good not to be involved with big brother.
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Your own show!! can I play too plz plz plz we r practically neighbors
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hackers want ur money, there is nothing personal "family and friends!!" oh boy they r the one u should keep ur private life. whether a person likes to dress up as a woman at night and walk the Sunset Blvd. luring unsuspected drunks who awoken in the morning by a deep voice of a hellish man GOOD MORNING SUNSHINE(I digress)
that should be kept private no where near family and friends 
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papion: Your own show!! can I play too plz plz plz we r practically neighbors
It's the only way to go, you know. Either I play their game or I play my own.
I can't believe you're cashing in neighbor benefits already
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papion: hackers want ur money, there is nothing personal "family and friends!!" oh boy they r the one u should keep ur private life. whether a person likes to dress up as a woman at night and walk the Sunset Blvd. luring unsuspected drunks who awoken in the morning by a deep voice of a hellish man GOOD MORNING SUNSHINE(I digress)
that should be kept private no where near family and friends
that should be kept private no where near family and friends
alright... maybe not family and friends.
So THAT is how the cops wake you up after a fun night out, eh.
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Nidifugous: You use SSL and 125 bit encryption. That's what google does. Their servers are no more secure than the one I can set up in my basement, you know.
I think hackers are the least of the problems, to be honest. Actually, I think trailing and tagging people and using beacons like the collector variety are a form of hacking. They tell you up front that you have to consent to let third parties put stuff in your computer, but they don't tell you who these third parties are.
I think hackers are the least of the problems, to be honest. Actually, I think trailing and tagging people and using beacons like the collector variety are a form of hacking. They tell you up front that you have to consent to let third parties put stuff in your computer, but they don't tell you who these third parties are.
so that is what the NSA, DOD.FBI, NIS, AEI and all the other members of the alphabet network are: “third parties”??? Not to worry, after all, they all have the capabilities of remotely turning on your computers and in fact, all other electronic devises in your homes once they have your ip address . Most computer come conveniently equipped with locators so you can even be tracked with portables. We should all feel secure as, not bugs in a bed, but as bugs under a 24-7 microscope.
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Nidifugous: Would you pay if you could have an email/chat provider who guarantees that your emails aren't analyzed, scanned, kept or forwarded to anybody else? or would you rather share everything about yourself (as most people do now) because it's free?
There are no guarantees.Anyone who makes those kinds of guarantees are no better then the paper it's written on.
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Kattte: so that is what the NSA, DOD.FBI, NIS, AEI and all the other members of the alphabet network are: “third parties”??? Not to worry, after all, they all have the capabilities of remotely turning on your computers and in fact, all other electronic devises in your homes once they have your ip address . Most computer come conveniently equipped with locators so you can even be tracked with portables. We should all feel secure as, not bugs in a bed, but as bugs under a 24-7 microscope.
Unfortunately you are right. Time to switch to Linux. Not a perfect solution, but better than Microsoft. I see this as one colossal cat and mouse game where the cat has the upper hand at the moment.
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Ccincy: There are no guarantees.Anyone who makes those kinds of guarantees are no better then the paper it's written on.
You know, I think there are "good guys" out there who try. Look at the guy from PA who founded the search engine "duckduckgo" (ddg.gg). He really doesn't track you. After it became known what google does, a lot of people started to use his search engine (myself included) because it produces real search results, not results that are taylored to my specific profile (the crap google thinks I want to see).
The guys who came up with Linux, is another example. So yes, technically, you're right. There are no guarantees, but there are people who make a real effort to get out of this structure for the benefit of all, rather than for profit.
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Nidifugous: You know, I think there are "good guys" out there who try. Look at the guy from PA who founded the search engine "duckduckgo" (ddg.gg). He really doesn't track you. After it became known what google does, a lot of people started to use his search engine (myself included) because it produces real search results, not results that are taylored to my specific profile (the crap google thinks I want to see).
The guys who came up with Linux, is another example. So yes, technically, you're right. There are no guarantees, but there are people who make a real effort to get out of this structure for the benefit of all, rather than for profit.
The guys who came up with Linux, is another example. So yes, technically, you're right. There are no guarantees, but there are people who make a real effort to get out of this structure for the benefit of all, rather than for profit.
Don't know anything about the two guys you mentioned but I'll take your word for it.
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Nidifugous: You know, I think there are "good guys" out there who try. Look at the guy from PA who founded the search engine "duckduckgo" (ddg.gg). He really doesn't track you. After it became known what google does, a lot of people started to use his search engine (myself included) because it produces real search results, not results that are taylored to my specific profile (the crap google thinks I want to see).
The guys who came up with Linux, is another example. So yes, technically, you're right. There are no guarantees, but there are people who make a real effort to get out of this structure for the benefit of all, rather than for profit.
The guys who came up with Linux, is another example. So yes, technically, you're right. There are no guarantees, but there are people who make a real effort to get out of this structure for the benefit of all, rather than for profit.
You are aware that just several weeks ago, NSA was caught diverting thousands of brand new computers from several countries and installing their spyware into them and also of altering new programs as they sat in warehouses waiting for shipment to stores as well as monitoring on line developments then overriding their operating systems…it’s a bloody all out war in cyberland and you; we are the enemy…not the Chinese or Russian hackers.
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Nidifugous: You use SSL and 125 bit encryption. That's what google does. Their servers are no more secure than the one I can set up in my basement, you know.
I think hackers are the least of the problems, to be honest. Actually, I think trailing and tagging people and using beacons like the collector variety are a form of hacking. They tell you up front that you have to consent to let third parties put stuff in your computer, but they don't tell you who these third parties are.
I think hackers are the least of the problems, to be honest. Actually, I think trailing and tagging people and using beacons like the collector variety are a form of hacking. They tell you up front that you have to consent to let third parties put stuff in your computer, but they don't tell you who these third parties are.
That is so naive. You should read the Patriot Act. Your ISP must keep copies for years and the use of (or allowing of by the ISP) encryption that can not be cracked by NSA is prohibited. The author of PGP battled the govt for years before yielding up his encryption keys but he did.
125 bit? You mean 128 I think. That would be so pitiful a 4 year old could probably find a key to crack it in 10 minutes. Although that was pretty good back in the 486 days, these days 512 bit and even some with 1056 is more the commerical standard. Serious govt encryption is even tougher than that. DES is so obsolete. So is RGA. Even Triple DES the keys are out there..
Something else. Why would we pay for the ISP to encrypt the email for us when the encryption programs themselves are available for use on our PCs so we can both write and encrypt it ourself?
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